DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution v2

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
Correction: all players, not Agora. -Aris On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > First, I'm distributing tomorrow (for clarity, between 12 and 24 hours > from now), and it would simplify my operations somewhat if you could > pend this before then. > > Second, I'm concerned abou

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution v2

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
First, I'm distributing tomorrow (for clarity, between 12 and 24 hours from now), and it would simplify my operations somewhat if you could pend this before then. Second, I'm concerned about the way you're handling organizations (and thus contracts). It seems likely to disproportionately and unfai

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution v2

2017-09-09 Thread Cuddle Beam
If this passes, I'm up for allying up with other players to even out our Shinies to help dodge being the hot potato (we can automatize it with Agencies/Contracts too, so that we always have our "real" amounts available and limited to just that, while all of our shiny balances are equal). Ideally, w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] September Estate Auction

2017-09-09 Thread Josh T
I actually messed up in one place: "certain" begins with an s sound so shouldn't have been included. I'm glad you enjoyed it regardless though. 天火狐 On 9 September 2017 at 11:48, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Josh T wrote: > > > > Oh well, I had fun writing my blurb. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Yellow card apology

2017-09-09 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’m very not sorry, but this probably failed. R2427: "When a Yellow Card is issued, the bad sport SHOULD publish a formal apology of at least 200 words explaining eir error, shame, remorse, and ardent desire for self-improvement.” This explained none of those things. Gaelan > On Sep 8, 2017, at

DIS: Re: BUS: Yellow card apology

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
This doesn't count as a "ormal apology of at least 200 words explaining eir error, shame, remorse, and ardent desire for self-improvement.". It's not an apology and it expresses none of the above. I'm counting your voting strength as 0 unless everyone else tells me otherwise. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 a

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Improved Buoyancy

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
I retract the proposal "Improved Buoyancy". I submit the following proposal. -Aris --- Title: Improved Buoyancy v2 Adoption index: 2.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: G. [Note to the Assessor: please resolve after "Float On".] [It is my belief that the current floating value problem was primarily caus

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Improved Buoyancy

2017-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > The Secretary CAN flip the floating value once a week. As part of > eir weekly duties, e SHALL flip the Floating Value to the number of Shinies > owned by Agora; by announcement by announcement by announcement by announcement by announcement by an

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Agora Protection Act

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
I'm going to see whether this passes as is. I pend the proposal "Agora Protection Act" for 1 shiny. -Aris On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I submit the following proposal. I don't think anything in it should > be objectionable, but let me know if that isn't true. I seem to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conditionals and Determinacy

2017-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > So, in the balance of legislative and common law, I'd put conditionals > > on the common law side. Probably, among everything else that's common > > law, this is the one I would most want to keep there. > > > > -G. > > I don't object to having it be

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] You can take it with you

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I submit the following proposal, and pend it by paying Agora 1 sh. > > Title: You can take it with you > Author: o > Co-authors: Aris > AI: 1 > > {{{ > Repeal rule 2485 (“You can’t take it with you”). > }}} > > This rule is moribund: it re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conditionals and Determinacy

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I pend "Conditionals and Determinacy" by paying 1 shiny to Agora. > > Having read this, this is a place that has functioned through the Courts > for at least 15 years, and I prefer to keep it that

DIS: Re: BUS: Conditionals and Determinacy

2017-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > I pend "Conditionals and Determinacy" by paying 1 shiny to Agora. Having read this, this is a place that has functioned through the Courts for at least 15 years, and I prefer to keep it that way. First because attempting to legislate and codify circula

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
Which proposal exactly did you retract, anyway? Both of them? -Aris On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:13 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > I retract the above. > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:01 PM, V.J Rada wrote: >> I pend the following w/ AP (I have none left this week, having called >> a CFJ on my playerhood) >> T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] September Estate Auction

2017-09-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure how many shinies I have right now but I believe I > should have 66 (Welcome Package [50] + Gaelan Transfer [10] + o Transfer [7] > - Stamp Purchase [1] = 66) > > If I have 66 shinies right now, I pledge to give my Sta

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] September Estate Auction

2017-09-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Josh T wrote: > > Oh well, I had fun writing my blurb. It was kind of hard to not use common > words like "the" or "of". > > 天火狐 I rather liked your blurb. You picked an interesting writing challenge to riff on. Thank you for writing it. -o signature.asc D

DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] September Estate Auction

2017-09-09 Thread Josh T
Oh well, I had fun writing my blurb. It was kind of hard to not use common words like "the" or "of". 天火狐 On 9 September 2017 at 03:20, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 2, 2017, at 12:02 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > > As Surveyor, it is my pleasure to annouce that the September estate > auct

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Mother, Can I?

2017-09-09 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I strongly oppose this rule because it is dangerous. We just need to be more careful in the future. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 8, 2017, at 11:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Title: Mother, May I? > AI: 3 > Amend rule 2152 by replacing "MAY: Per

DIS: Re: BUS: MAYS that should be CANS PLEASE READ THIS WE'RE SO FUCKED

2017-09-09 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 8, 2017, at 11:39 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > "Whenever a Player feels that e has been treated so egregiously by the > Agoran community that e can no longer abide to be a part of it, e may > submit a document to the

Re: DIS: Proto: Rule Precedence Changes

2017-09-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
If a rule with higher power defers to a rule of lower power, and the deference is allowed to work, then the lower powered rule could be modified (using an instrument of a lower power) to do something else, thus modifying the operation of the higher-powered rule with a lower- powered change. This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
note a) this isn't a formal investigation because I'm over my finger limit and b) if it were, ais would be in charge. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:46 AM Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> >> > On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> > >> > "Wh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:46 AM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > "When a player Points a Finger, the investigator SHALL investigate the > > allegation and, in a timely fashion, SHALL conclude the investigation > > by: > > > > issuing a Card to the poi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
"When a player Points a Finger, the investigator SHALL investigate the allegation and, in a timely fashion, SHALL conclude the investigation by: issuing a Card to the pointed-at player by announcement whose reason is rooted in the allegation; if e believes that no rules violation occurred or that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > "When a player Points a Finger, the investigator SHALL investigate the > allegation and, in a timely fashion, SHALL conclude the investigation > by: > > issuing a Card to the pointed-at player by announcement whose reason > is rooted in the alleg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution

2017-09-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:15 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Doesn't this incentivise not having any money and spending all you get > quickly on other things? > > Huh, working as intended then I guess. Yup, exactly. It’s a nuclear lottery: accumulating a critical mass of shinies will eventually cause you

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
Doesn't this incentivise not having any money and spending all you get quickly on other things? Huh, working as intended then I guess. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > On an alternate email address due to technical issues. > > I create the following proposal “Proletarian Re

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Billy Mays Here

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:05 AM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2017, at 2:59 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > Title: BILLY MAYS HERE > > I retract the proposal BILLY MAYS HERE, and submit the following proposal > in its place. > > Title: BILLY MAYS

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Billy Mays Here

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
yup sorry. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:03 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> " An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf of >>another player. A player CAN establish an Agency With 24 hours >>Notice, and thereby become i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread Aris Merchant
I'll fix these tomorrow; it's getting rather late over here. -Aris On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:56 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > Amend Rule 2474, "Green Cards", to read in full: > > > > A Green Card is a type of Card that is appropriate for minor, > acc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Billy Mays Here

2017-09-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:03 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > " An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf of >another player. A player CAN establish an Agency With 24 hours >Notice, and thereby become its Director, by specifying the >properties of the new Agency, p

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Billy Mays Here

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
You'll want to make festivals, agencies and rewards by announcement. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:03 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > " An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf of > another player. A player CAN establish an Agency With 24 hours > Notice, and thereby become it

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Billy Mays Here

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
" An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf of another player. A player CAN establish an Agency With 24 hours Notice, and thereby become its Director, by specifying the properties of the new Agency, provided e has not established any other Agency