Re: DIS: Re: Submission of Candidacy for the Office of the Prime Minister

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Oh, by the way, the square bracket vote notation from [1] is probably the most standard for instant runoff elections. Anything clearly translatable into an ordered list works though. -Aris On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Perfectly standard. See for instance [1], [2]. > >

Re: DIS: Re: Submission of Candidacy for the Office of the Prime Minister

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Perfectly standard. See for instance [1], [2]. [1] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2017-May/034561.html [2] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2016-October/034180.html -Aris On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Kyle Anderson

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I was planning on working with G to somehow pull the annotations directly out of the CFJ database, but that never got past being an idea. I’ll look into it in the next few days. Gaelan > On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Kyle Anderson <

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Kyle Anderson wrote: > > I was aware, I am thankful regardless. > > > > In your estimation, is it important to read the rules in their entirety > before playing? I am completely unsure what actions I should “propose”, as an > example of my ignorance. > > > > Than

DIS: Re: Submission of Candidacy for the Office of the Prime Minister

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
As an aside, I have a question on standard etiquette. The Election Initiation allows for votes for all players, and I’m assuming that it allows for votes by all players as well. I see no mention of anything to the contrary in the rules. Is it standard practice to cast a vote for one’s self when

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Roman type Arial at normal size is probably good (people don't seem to complain much when I mess up :) ). I doubt anyone will complain all that much if there's some bolding or italics, although _underscores_ or the like are preferred. It's not that big a deal unless there's something really jarring

DIS: Submission of Candidacy for the Office of the Prime Minister

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
In conjunction with my recent election initiation, I would like to submit my candidacy for Prime Minister. I am extremely interested in the dynamics of Agora, and I believe that holding this office may afford me opportunity to quickly become involved. It is my understanding that the current Prim

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
Thank you both. I will initiate this election and post a new discussion to submit my candidacy. -K From: Aris Merchant Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:24 PM To: Agora Nomic discussions (DF) Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering You initiate elections like this: I initiate an election fo

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
Thank you, Aris. I’ve always signed as “K”, I see that there is an “o” as well. Simple is good, and I’ve always been fond of the uppercase letter K. Thank you for pointing out the avast signature, I disabled it. As for the plain text, I have come to enjoy using Microsoft’s Mail desktop app, and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
You initiate elections like this: I initiate an election for the office of , as no election for this office has occurred within the last 90 days. I initiate an Agoran decision to determine the new . For this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP, the quorum is , and the valid options are the pl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Welcome, K! I guess single letter names are turning into a thing. A minor bit of etiquette: the avast email signature is kind of annoying. We tend to favor plain text if possible (you can do it really easily in the gmail web editior, I'm not sure about other places). Failing that, plain-ish text i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Accounting error

2017-08-22 Thread Aris Merchant
To be fair to Gaelan, the title makes it a bit confusing. -Aris On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Heh, fair enough. > > Gaelan >> On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> That’s an easy one. The five extra shinies are the ones that were held by >> the Agor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
We generally do actions by announcement. Thus "I initiate 3 agoran decisions for the elections for Reportor, Herald and Prime Minister" called by V.J Rada on 27 June" or ​"I initiate elections for positions X Y and Z and the Agoran decisions for such elections" should do. As to voting, "I vote for

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
I don’t know, there’s something about being Prime Minister that calls to me (though admittedly I have no working knowledge of what the position entails). Could someone be so kind as to point me to a past election so that I might look at the accepted practices to initiate/vote? -K From: V.J Rad

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
You can also take Reportor by deputization as I deregistered while holding the office. Why are there so many mechanisms for filling offices when there are like 8 players? Good question! On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:59 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > You could do that yes. I long ago initiated elections for H

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Use me

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
E does. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I believe somebody claimed starter kits en masse, so I think you have yours. > > Gaelan > > On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Quazie wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:57 AM Quazie wrote: >> >> I intend, with 24 hours notice, to esta

DIS: Re: BUS: Accounting error

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
Heh, fair enough. Gaelan > On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > That’s an easy one. The five extra shinies are the ones that were held by the > Agoran Voting Market when proposal 7867 passed. This was an oversight in the > proposal, which zeroed Player balances but did not zer

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
You could do that yes. I long ago initiated elections for Herald, Reportor and PM so initiating those Decisions should work to make an election happen (it turns out that any player can do this, not just the ADoP so all my arguing re that was so dumb lmao). Or you could initiate a new election and t

DIS: Re: BUS: Use me

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I believe somebody claimed starter kits en masse, so I think you have yours. Gaelan > On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Quazie wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:57 AM Quazie > wrote: > I intend, with 24 hours notice, to establish the following agency: > Name: Quazie

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
Yes. Pretty much all information about the state of the game is managed by an officer and posted to agora-official. The ADoP keeps track of officeholders, and their latest report is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08221.html

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
I appreciate the help! I am interested in becoming more involved in the game. The office of Prime Minister sounds inviting. Is there a way to know who currently holds offices? Would a Motion of No Confidence be successful in this case? -K From: Owen Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’d say you can get away with not reading the full rules yet, and referencing things you hear about as they become important. I’m curious what the others think about this. Gaelan > On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Kyle Anderson wrote: > > I was aware, I am thankful regardless. > > In your estima

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
I was actually given my 50 Shinies, as Owen pointed out earlier. The issue is regarding the next player who registers. Unless your intent is to give me more Shinies in addition to the 50 I received in the Welcome Package, in which case I have no objection! -K From: V.J Rada Sent: Tuesday, Augu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
No that's correct, I was assuming it was all one rule but of course nichdel had the foresight to avoid negative integers. I think it's possible to deregister ienpw III, tmanthe2nd and Zachary Watterson on the grounds that I've been around longer than a month and have never to my knowledge seen the

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Kyle Anderson
I was aware, I am thankful regardless. In your estimation, is it important to read the rules in their entirety before playing? I am completely unsure what actions I should “propose”, as an example of my ignorance. Thanks, -K From: Gaelan Steele Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:38 PM To: Agor

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Gaelan Steele
If you weren’t aware, the current rules are available at agoranomic.org/ruleset . Gaelan > On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kyle Anderson wrote: > > I register as a player. > > I’m not really sure what that means, but I am beyond interested to find out. > > -K >

Re: DIS: Could someone please...

2017-08-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
Oh, snap. Good catch. -o > On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:36 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > I'm not a player > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Quazie wrote: >> Any player can actually initiate the decisions emself - either to deputize, >> or just via the election rules themselves >> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017

Re: DIS: Could someone please...

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
I'm not a player On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Quazie wrote: > Any player can actually initiate the decisions emself - either to deputize, > or just via the election rules themselves > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 21:34 V.J Rada wrote: >> >> ...Use Quazie's agency to initiate the agoran decisions

Re: DIS: Could someone please...

2017-08-22 Thread Quazie
Any player can actually initiate the decisions emself - either to deputize, or just via the election rules themselves On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 21:34 V.J Rada wrote: > ...Use Quazie's agency to initiate the agoran decisions for the > elections I initiated months ago for Reportor, Herald and Prime >

Re: DIS: Could someone please...

2017-08-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
You can. -o > On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:34 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > ...Use Quazie's agency to initiate the agoran decisions for the > elections I initiated months ago for Reportor, Herald and Prime > Minister > -- >> From V.J Rada signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:27 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > As an academic question, how do the current rules resolve welcome packages when Agora holds less than 50 shinies? K’s welcome package is complete, but there aren’t enough shinies left for the next one. > > I assume the parts of

DIS: Could someone please...

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
...Use Quazie's agency to initiate the agoran decisions for the elections I initiated months ago for Reportor, Herald and Prime Minister -- >From V.J Rada

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread V.J Rada
>>>As an academic question, how do the current rules resolve welcome packages >>>when Agora holds less than 50 shinies? K’s welcome package is complete, but >>>there aren’t enough shinies left for the next one. I assume the parts of the rules banning negative transfers conflicts with the part of

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Registering

2017-08-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Aug 23, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Kyle Anderson wrote: > Thank you! I gladly except the Welcome Package of 50 Shinies. > > Any advice to get started? I’ve subscribed to the three lists: Business, > Official, and Discussion. I have read the meager information available on the > Agora Wiki, and hav

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Shorter Apologies

2017-08-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Aug 22, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Josh T wrote: > I don't exactly have a strong feeling one way or another, but given that one > is usually given ten words in a word list, writing nineteen other words for > each word on the list seems pretty doable. I wouldn't know, however—I'm not > the one writin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Shorter Apologies

2017-08-22 Thread Josh T
I don't exactly have a strong feeling one way or another, but given that one is usually given ten words in a word list, writing nineteen other words for each word on the list seems pretty doable. I wouldn't know, however—I'm not the one writing apologies. 天火狐 On 22 August 2017 at 02:28, Aris Merc