Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] changes of the week

2010-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM, omd wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> AI=Mutable > > > > Hmm... > > I'm treating that as submitting an AI-1 proposal, as I don't believe > one CAN set a proposal's AI to an impossible

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

2010-11-07 Thread comex
On Sunday, November 7, 2010, comex wrote: > NttPF Also, the voting period is over because I did, in fact, successfully rubberstamp those proposals.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 10-11-07 05:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: You still have a voting limit of zero due to Rests, so these would have been ineffective even if they hadn't been NttPF. These were cleared when the Rebellion wiped them. -coppro

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2891 assigned to coppro

2010-11-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On 10-11-07 10:00 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2891 >> >> == Criminal Case 2891 (Interest Index = 0) === >> >> Warrigal violated committed the Class-2 Crime of Restricted >> Behavior by violati

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

2010-11-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On 10-10-31 01:34 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> This distribution of proposals 6870-6876 >> initiates the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt them. The eligible >> voters are the active players at the time of this distribution, and >> the vote collector is the Assessor. The valid

DIS: Re: BUS: Non-coup

2010-11-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I believe omd's announcement of shelling the palace had no effect, >> as e was no longer Crown Prince at the time due to my becoming >> Speaker a few days earlier. omd then moved the player above em >> (Yally) down one position,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

2010-11-07 Thread comex
NttPF On Sunday, November 7, 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 10-10-31 01:34 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > This distribution of proposals 6870-6876 > initiates the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt them.  The eligible > voters are the active players at the time of this distribution, and > the vote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6863-6869

2010-11-07 Thread comex
NttPF On Sunday, November 7, 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 10-11-07 09:39 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Ugh, you're right.  I transfer a prop from myself (for getting > 6864 and 6865 mixed up) to coppro (for pointing it out). > > 6864 still failed quorum (and would have failed even if I had > voted FOR

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6863-6869

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 10-11-07 09:39 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Ugh, you're right. I transfer a prop from myself (for getting 6864 and 6865 mixed up) to coppro (for pointing it out). 6864 still failed quorum (and would have failed even if I had voted FOR it, actually I probably would have voted PRESENT). CoE on my pre

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2891 assigned to coppro

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 10-11-07 10:00 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2891 == Criminal Case 2891 (Interest Index = 0) === Warrigal violated committed the Class-2 Crime of Restricted Behavior by violating rule 2125, because rule 1006

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

2010-11-07 Thread Sean Hunt
On 10-10-31 01:34 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: This distribution of proposals 6870-6876 initiates the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt them. The eligible voters are the active players at the time of this distribution, and the vote collector is the Assessor. The valid options on each decision ar

DIS: Re: BUS: As per ais523's interpretation

2010-11-07 Thread omd
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 2:39 PM, John Smith wrote: > This is a Win Announcement.  CfJ 2878 has continuously been a tortoise for no > greater than four and no less than two weeks. I claim that this is not a win announcement, because CFJ 2878 is not on the legality of an action: it is, effectively,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] changes of the week

2010-11-07 Thread omd
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, ais523 wrote: > Surely the common-sense interpretation is that e reserves the right to > change the AI later, e.g. via veto? I wouldn't say so; "A=Y" is only equivalent to "A is Y" in very awkward speech, and game custom suggests e was attempting to use Mutable as

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [IADoP] Fearmonger Election

2010-11-07 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 13:42 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the > > holder of the Fearmonger office. The vote collector is the IADoP and > > the eligible voters are the active

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] changes of the week

2010-11-07 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 13:29 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM, omd wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> AI=Mutable > > > > Hmm... > > I'm treating that as submitting an AI-1 proposal, as I don't believe > one CAN set a proposal's AI to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Fearmongor] changes of the week

2010-11-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM, omd wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> AI=Mutable > > Hmm... I'm treating that as submitting an AI-1 proposal, as I don't believe one CAN set a proposal's AI to an impossible value.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6863 - 6869

2010-11-07 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 13:15 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I'm a bit behind on recordkeeping because of the devnull nethack > tournament, but I'll try to get all of my reports published by the > time they're due later today. We should totally contestify that, especially as at least two Agorans are

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6863 - 6869

2010-11-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Sun 31 Oct 19:22:27  G. moves Murphy to top > Sun 31 Oct 21:17:42  Tiger becomes inactive > Thu  4 Nov 16:35:32  omd moves player above em (Yally) down one > List of Succession as of now: > >   5 Murphy >  10 Wooble >   7 G. >   5 coppro >   5 ai

DIS: Re: BUS: Non-coup

2010-11-07 Thread omd
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I believe omd's announcement of shelling the palace had no effect, > as e was no longer Crown Prince at the time due to my becoming > Speaker a few days earlier.  omd then moved the player above em > (Yally) down one position, thus becoming Crown

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6863-6869

2010-11-07 Thread scshunt
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 01:18:28 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> 6863 O 1 2.0 coppro Be Exact > AGAINST, announcing the amount should be SHALL >> 6864 O 1 3.0 coppro Urgency simplified > already failed quorum (the down side of urgent proposals is that they > can fail quorum faste

DIS: Re: BUS: Self-ratification bug

2010-11-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Bucky wrote: > It appears that omd's judgment on CfJ 2878 has self-ratified. Rule 2201 > (Self-ratification) does not consider an appeal to be a challenge to a > judicial declaration. (The CfJ itself is 'suspended', but that isn't > relevent) > > Also, note that the definition of "tortoise"