Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Warrigal wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: >> I change my nickname to 'The Robot'. >> >> -coppro > > I publish a Notice of Violation accusing coppro of violating rule 2170 > (power 3) by changing eir nickname to "The Robot", a confusing

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I should look this up, but note that we have in the past accepted >> dictatorship rules of the form "[player name] CAN do whatever by >> announcement" without any special explicitness, and currently have a >> (non-scam) rule that mentions Taral

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Norrish > wrote: >> I think I remember something similar. Â I certainly wrote a judgement that >> defeated such an attempt. Â I used the "Alice Through the Looking Glass" >> argument that being called something, and having something as a name

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread Taral
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Taral wrote: > I can put a shorter session timeout on the smtpd... For the record, the emails were received in this order: Aug 26 17:55:00 yzma postfix/cleanup[16068]: 717A0812E5: message-id= Aug 26 17:55:00 yzma postfix/cleanup[16047]: 2CB1C812E4: message-id= -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread Taral
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM, ais523 wrote: > You can start sending the email, but stop halfway through, and later on, > finish sending the email (and you don't need to have specified all the > content of the email by this point). For some reason, the timestamp > given is the timestamp when you

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, ais523 wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 23:32 +0100, ais523 wrote: > > NoV: coppro violated the power-1 rule 2215 by stating that e changed eir > > nickname, when in common usage people are still calling em "coppro" > > rather than "The Robot" and thus "The Robot" is not eir ni

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:41 -0400, omd wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I'm not sure how the "received by" agoranomic date can be before you sent > > it, > > unless someone has their clock wrong. That agoranomic date is consistent > > with the time my server recei

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I think I remember something similar.  I certainly wrote a judgement that > defeated such an attempt.  I used the "Alice Through the Looking Glass" > argument that being called something, and having something as a name are not > necessarily

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread omd
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm not sure how the "received by" agoranomic date can be before you sent it, > unless someone has their clock wrong.  That agoranomic date is consistent > with the time my server received it a few mins later and the time I saw it > a few minut

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:34 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The document declared its own name in its content, so that is its name > to itself. I readily admit that this does not *absolutely guarantee* > that it has that name in Agoran Legal Practice. However, we have > accepted almost every self-n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, ais523 wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:16 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Gratuitous: > > The datestamps showing up in my mailbox are: > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:48:22 -0500 (CDT) > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:49:45 -0500 (CDT) > > > > which are past, and match the time

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Michael Norrish
On 27/08/10 04:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of players into rules/proposals (e.g. "G. can amend this rule") or "comex is hereby awarded X") but I can't remember anyo

DIS: Re: BUS: Fun with CFJ timing

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:16 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Gratuitous: > The datestamps showing up in my mailbox are: > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:48:22 -0500 (CDT) > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:49:45 -0500 (CDT) > > which are past, and match the time received by agoranomic.org in timezone as > well as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 05:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. 10 PRINT "I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE." 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT 30 GOTO 10

Re: DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember > anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of > players into rules/proposals (e.g. "G. can amend this rule") or "comex > is hereby awarded X") but I can't remember anyone trying to change

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. > > > > 10 PRINT "I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE." > > 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT > > 30 GOTO 10 > > > > I submit that t

DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I submit the following 3-line public document, TheRobot. 10 PRINT "I AM THE ROBOT. I DO THE ROBOT DANCE." 20 REM G. MAY MODIFY THIS DOCUMENT BY ANNOUNCEMENT 30 GOTO 10 I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any reasonable extent

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2835

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 07:49 +, Alex Smith wrote: > I set CFJ 2835's II to 1, then judge it FALSE. The rule is unambiguous > (although quite possibly broken), and the caller's arguments are > correct. I award myself a capacitor for the farad I gained from the above-quoted judgement. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Hunt
On 08/26/2010 04:08 PM, Keba wrote: Well, what's about a scam like "I change my name to Crown Prince" (or any other Courtier)? I don't know whether the voting limits are increased by re-naming, but at least the special duties and powers should apply, if coppro's (or the Robot's?) scam worked. Ma

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Proposal 6821 (Purple, AI=2.1, Interest=1) by G. > (coauth: coppro/The Robot) > > Relisting > > [...] > > Amend Rule 2255 to read: > > A rule with a power equal to or greater than this rule may > associate a Position Name with a specific position on the List

DIS: *test*

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
I assume my email client has made a mistake, this message should just be ignored. -- Keba

DIS: ...and so is my wife

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
The more I think of it, the more surprised I am that I can't remember anyone trying this scam. We've had plenty of attempted hardcodings of players into rules/proposals (e.g. "G. can amend this rule") or "comex is hereby awarded X") but I can't remember anyone trying to change their name to i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, com...@gmail.com wrote: > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any > > reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. > > Hey ehird, do you still have the source to Bay

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:09 -0400, com...@gmail.com wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any > > reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. > > Hey ehird, do you still have th

DIS: Re: BUS: Another robot precedent

2010-08-26 Thread comexk
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit that this is the first entity within Agora that fits any > reasonable extent a common definition of a robot. Hey ehird, do you still have the source to Bayes?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 17:05 +0200, Keba wrote: > You know that the attempt to rename the City, omd's objection to this > attempt, the CoE and the NoV were all sent to the discussion mailing > list and have therefore no effect? Gah, you're right as well. I wonder how we all missed that? -- ais52

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
You know that the attempt to rename the City, omd's objection to this attempt, the CoE and the NoV were all sent to the discussion mailing list and have therefore no effect? -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Rights are important

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:30 -0400, Warrigal wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Keba wrote: > > Proposal "Rights are important" (AI=3.5, II=1, distributable via fee) > > {{{ > > Increase the power of Rule 101 "The Rights of Agorans" to 3.5. > > An AI of 3 is sufficient for this, as an instr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 20:19 -0400, Warrigal wrote: > Evidence: I *did* reasonably believe that that message by Alex Smith > was not sent by em, for the simple reason that (due to a technical > glitch, I suppose) I had not received that message from Alex Smith. Is > it unreasonable to assume, based