Re: DIS: Archives?

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
It's a-b I can't seem to reach. It must be something to do with my location - away from home tonight. Anyway, I was able to use http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-busin...@agoranomic.org/maillist.html instead. BobTHJ On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 00:09, Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Roger Hicks w

Re: DIS: Archives?

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Roger Hicks wrote: >> I can't seem to reach the agoranomic.org archives, but it appears the >> lists are still working. Anyone else having this issue? >> >> BobTHJ > Negative. I just tested the a-o archive and it gave me the first message from this month without complaint.

Re: DIS: Archives?

2009-08-08 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: > I can't seem to reach the agoranomic.org archives, but it appears the > lists are still working. Anyone else having this issue? > > BobTHJ Negative.

DIS: Archives?

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
I can't seem to reach the agoranomic.org archives, but it appears the lists are still working. Anyone else having this issue? BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PBA

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 15:39, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Gratuitous:  I suggest resetting all rates to baseline and letting >> current economic conditions drive them to appropriate values. > > I suggest a complete reform to eliminate the inflation p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:34, comex wrote: > Why can't we just have an interface that > - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to > another server if the original one goes down), > - is cross-platform (so I can run it), > - is easy to change (preferably gives recordkeepo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:45, Sean Hunt wrote: > Roger Hicks wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:22, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> comex wrote: I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist. >>> I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and >>> on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2009-08-08 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:22, Sean Hunt wrote: >> comex wrote: >>> I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist. >>> >> I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and >> one Committee card. >> > Can you without intent? It's not

DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2009-08-08 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:22, Sean Hunt wrote: > comex wrote: >> I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist. >> > I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and > one Committee card. > Can you without intent? It's not vacant. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2648 assigned to schwa

2009-08-08 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/8/8 Sean Hunt : >> Agora is not full of true pedants. > > HAHAHAHA... Pedants, no... any gamer would know that Rules Lawyers are another breed entirely...

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2648 assigned to schwa

2009-08-08 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/8 Sean Hunt : > Agora is not full of true pedants. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Intents and Report

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > If I'm not already a member of it, I join the IBA. > If I'm an eligible voter (ie I was already a member) I vote FOR all > current motions to amend the IBA. You were already a member. You have 130 zm. -- -c.

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA

2009-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Gratuitous:  I suggest resetting all rates to baseline and letting > current economic conditions drive them to appropriate values. I suggest a complete reform to eliminate the inflation problem and recordkeeping mess, and will try to submit a pro

DIS: Re: BUS: Scammity Scam Scam

2009-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/8/7 Geoffrey Spear : >> I nominate myself as Grand Poobah. >> > Me too. Thank you, but I only need 1 nomination.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2009-08-08 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> comex wrote: >>> I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist. >>> >> I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and >> one Committee card. > > Note that the office is still held b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > There is a reason I have intentionally avoided  trying to tie my > database in to anyone else's (say, the Registrar's). Doing so would > leave me reliant on another player's actions - for instance, a > deregistered player leaves all eir offices. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > >> Why can't we just have an interface that >> - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to >> another server if the original one goes down), > > I've adjusted my server to make nightly tarballs of the PHP sc

DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > comex wrote: >> I play No Confidence, initiating an election for the office of Anarchist. >> > I deputize for Anarchist to deal myself two Distrib-u-Matic cards and > one Committee card. Note that the office is still held by allispaul. -- -c.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: > Ironically, I managed to stomp two scripts (fortunately minor ones, > cotc/notes.php and cotc/case_count.php) in the process of debugging > the syntax... case_count.php is reconstructed (and includes appeals, which it didn't previously). notes.php is reconstructed and renamed to htt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > Why can't we just have an interface that > - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to > another server if the original one goes down), I've adjusted my server to make nightly tarballs of the PHP scripts, which anyone is free to mirror off-site. The only

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Anarchist Election

2009-08-08 Thread Sean Hunt
Charles Reiss wrote: > On 8/6/09 8:55 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to decide the >> holder of the office of Anarchist. For this Decision, the >> eligible voters are all the active first-class players, each with a >> voting limit of one. The Intergalact

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> The text report at http://www.nomictools.com/agora/registrar is pretty >> much up to date with my recordkeeping. I have plans to introduce a >> RESTful interface to the registration data in the near future. > > ITT: redundanc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/8 comex : > Why can't we just have an interface that > - is open-source (so we know what's going on, and can replicate it to > another server if the original one goes down), > - is cross-platform (so I can run it), > - is easy to change (preferably gives recordkeepors the ability to > change

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2646 assigned to c-walker

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM, C-walker wrote: > I judge FALSE. Although it seems c. was able to get a translation of > the message through Gmail, I was not able to do so, and in any case > not every Agoran uses Gmail. I also agree with the rest of eir > arguments and the precedent of CFJ 1460.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > The text report at http://www.nomictools.com/agora/registrar is pretty > much up to date with my recordkeeping.  I have plans to introduce a > RESTful interface to the registration data in the near future. ITT: redundancy. *sigh* Why can't w

DIS: Quorum reporting

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
The Assessor DB now tracks the times of events affecting quorum (I back-populated it through July 27 or so, enough to confirm that it got the right results for 6414-20). I also fixed a bug where it wasn't excluding deregistered players (the effects of which were less obvious because many such play

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Intents and Report

2009-08-08 Thread comex
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > The self-ratified AAA report shows the following holdings in the bank: > > Farmer              0   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   X WRV > - > IBA                 3   2   0   0  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Scammity Scam Scam

2009-08-08 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/7 Roger Hicks : > When considering the same with you, while I believe you have > performed the office of Grand Poobah in a satisfactory manner it has > been personally inconvenient to me since you're not using my > card-drawing engine (which means I have to manually record your > deals). Aga

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA

2009-08-08 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/8 Ed Murphy : > Gratuitous:  I suggest resetting all rates to baseline and letting > current economic conditions drive them to appropriate values. Dunno if the invisible hand of the free market works too well in Agora's economy (despite the fluffy communist wording, it's quite the opposite)

Re: DIS: Speaking of fora...

2009-08-08 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/7 Sgeo : > What if it stopped working in such a way that the process was still running? Oh, horror! An improvement that isn't perfect!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:17, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Admitted, but OTOH it isn't a frequent error (most weeks see the same >> quorum as the previous week, and most proposals achieve quorum by a >> comfortable margin).  That said, I'll see about reva

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2636 assigned to Taral

2009-08-08 Thread Taral
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I recommend that the judgment be {Each party to the IBA SHALL vote FOR > both Motions to Amend the IBA}, and that it be delivered posthaste, so > that the quorum issue doesn't prevent our contract from being fixed. Objections? -- Taral "Please

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 6406

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> This distribution of proposal 6406 initiates the Agoran >> ... >> Proposal 6403 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by c-walker >> Proposal Tweaking Part 2.1 > > Which proposal is the real 6406? That one was declared invalid anywa

DIS: Re: BUS: [Janitor] Cleanup Proposals

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Poweriffic Cleanup (AI=3, II=0) > {{{ > Amend Rule 1728 by replacing > A person CAN perform a dependent action authorized by a contract > as if that contract were a rule, provided that the above > requirements are otherwise met, and that the effects of that >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposals 6414 - 6420 are failing quorum

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Quorum8 8 8 8 8 8 8 >>> Voters7 7 7 7 7 6 7 >> CoE: At the time of the initiation of this decision, there were 21 >> active players (see the Census published near-concurrently

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Some NoVs

2009-08-08 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:17, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Admitted, but OTOH it isn't a frequent error (most weeks see the same >> quorum as the previous week, and most proposals achieve quorum by a >> comfortable margin). That said, I'll see about revamping the system >> this weekend for