DIS: Web Interface Update

Players who are members of the Bob's Janitorial Service may now deal themselves cards via the web interface (located at http://nomic.bob-space.com/controlpanel.aspx). Presently such deals may only come from the Deck of Justice, but if the Poobah and Anarchist join BJS you will be able to deal from

DIS: Why does this work again?

I still don't understand this scam. coppro argued that: > it is IMPOSSIBLE to send a public message except where allowed > by the rules. because of the equivalence of "acting on behalf of oneself" and just general "acting by sending a public message." But R478 authorizes just that sort of action

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, G. wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, C-walker wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM, G. wrote: >>> 3.  Some form of monthly rotation. >> >> Again, this is not much different from the current system. Have you >> any specific ideas for a different form of monthly rota

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 13:18, C-walker > wrote: >> Allowing 'empty places' on the list could make things more >> interesting: maybe players could automatically rise to the top of >> pockets of empty places in the list? >> > OooI like the idea of empt

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 20:18 +0100, C-walker wrote: >>> 7. Initialization is based on list of Champions (previously >>>published); non-champions are put on list in registration >>>order. >> >> This is generally a good idea, but maybe non-Champions could

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 13:18, C-walker wrote: > Allowing 'empty places' on the list could make things more > interesting: maybe players could automatically rise to the top of > pockets of empty places in the list? > OooI like the idea of empty spots on the list. Another idea is to invert the l

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, C-walker wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM, G. wrote: >>  (1) is there support for this idea > > I support it as it seems to work better than castes and I like the > ideas of making ordinary voting more cutthroat and linking in the > speaker. I'm not sure, however, if t

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 20:18 +0100, C-walker wrote: > > 7. Initialization is based on list of Champions (previously > >published); non-champions are put on list in registration > >order. > > This is generally a good idea, but maybe non-Champions could be placed > higher in the initial list

Re: DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM, G. wrote: > (1) is there support for this idea I support it as it seems to work better than castes and I like the ideas of making ordinary voting more cutthroat and linking in the speaker. I'm not sure, however, if this is different enough from the current system

DIS: Poobah bye-bye proto

Ranking all the winners recently gave me an idea for replacing the Poobah and Castes. (1) is there support for this idea; (2) logicians and mathematicians, please help find holes in the first Rule: does the rule suitably imply sensible common-sense definitions of a ranking list? E.g. forbids mov

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: more card fixing

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I intend to make it distributable without objection. > > You can still do it by announcement, and there's probably not much > point in saving your announcement since the rule allowing it can now > b

DIS: Re: BUS: distributability

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I spend a Distrib-u-Matic card to make "Fix Veto" distributable. I believe I had an outstanding intent to make this distributable without objection which was not objected to. I really should mark these things because I seem to forget every i

DIS: Re: BUS: more card fixing

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I intend to make it distributable without objection. You can still do it by announcement, and there's probably not much point in saving your announcement since the rule allowing it can now be repealed by announcement.

DIS: Re: BUS: more card fixing

G. wrote: > I submit the following proposal, "fix ancient cards", AI-2, II-0. > > Rule 2260 (The Deck of Government) by replacing "Vote Power" with > "voting limit" where it appears in the rule. You might need an 'Amend' there. -- C-walker

Re: DIS: Pragmatic card draws

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:32, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> FYI, I've modified future card draws made by dealors through the web >> interface to be pragmatic. However, any draws which have already been >> earned as of this point will be sent platonically if sent

Re: DIS: Pragmatic card draws

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: > FYI, I've modified future card draws made by dealors through the web > interface to be pragmatic. However, any draws which have already been > earned as of this point will be sent platonically if sent from the web > interface (such as the ones I just sent

DIS: Pragmatic card draws

FYI, I've modified future card draws made by dealors through the web interface to be pragmatic. However, any draws which have already been earned as of this point will be sent platonically if sent from the web interface (such as the ones I just sent from the Deck of Justice) because they are alread

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:55, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> However, I did make the >> assumption that Agorans were a mature enough lot not to try petty >> things like that. I doubt any actions taken on their behalf by an >> imposter would hold up under CFJ anyw

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: > However, I did make the > assumption that Agorans were a mature enough lot not to try petty > things like that. I doubt any actions taken on their behalf by an > imposter would hold up under CFJ anyway. When I was working on my proto-version of this (happ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 05:48, Elliott Hird wrote: > Oh, wait. > > [[To log in to the interface, your > username is your nickname in Agora (or the common abbreviation) and > your password is "Agora".]] > > Giving everyone the same initial password and telling everyone what it is? > > Yep, that'll w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public Review for new Rule

On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 12:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote: > > And done: . It's split by day UTC, the > > split version should update every hour (the original version still > > exists and is updated instantaneously). > > Er, it looks

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

2009/7/21 Geoffrey Spear : > I just found out about the existence of the logins now, and my > password doesn't work either (also, the "forgot password" page throws > an exception.) > > But thanks for the accusation. I will refrain from joking in the future.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > And, as it turns out, CoE: no anyway. I can't log in; maybe Wooble > changed my password. I just found out about the existence of the logins now, and my password doesn't work either (also, the "forgot password" page throws an exception.) But

DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

2009/7/21 Elliott Hird : > 2009/7/21 Elliott Hird : >> 2009/7/21 Roger Hicks : >>> Each first-class player has been given a login to the web interface >>> control panel located at http://nomic.bob-space.com/controlpanel.aspx. >> >> CoE: no. >> > > Oh, wait. > > [[To log in to the interface, your >

DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

2009/7/21 Elliott Hird : > 2009/7/21 Roger Hicks : >> Each first-class player has been given a login to the web interface >> control panel located at http://nomic.bob-space.com/controlpanel.aspx. > > CoE: no. > Oh, wait. [[To log in to the interface, your username is your nickname in Agora (or th

DIS: Re: BUS: Bob's Janitorial Service

2009/7/21 Roger Hicks : > Each first-class player has been given a login to the web interface > control panel located at http://nomic.bob-space.com/controlpanel.aspx. CoE: no.