DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2611 assigned to Tanner Swett

2009-06-24 Thread Warrigal
Proto-judgement (and top-post): TRUE, because unless you believe a contract is a forum, you have no reason to attempt to flip its Publicity to Public; any attempt to do so is almost certainly an attempt to flip its Disclosure to Public. I'm withholding this judgement because it may be that even if

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Hmm, there's two possible ways an incorrect election notice can be VALID. >> (1) It can be VALID in initiating an election, even though it's incorrect >> in some specified detail; but the platonic "

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2574 assigned to Taral

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Appeal 2574a >> >> Panelist: G. >> Decision: OVERRULE/FALSE >> >> Panelist: Quazie >> Decision:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6355 - 6376

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:19 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> On 6369, c-walker endorsed the contestmaster who awarded the most >>> points in May. By my count, the totals by contest were >>> >>> xy contest >>> >>>29 36

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Judge allispaul's Arguments: >> Importantly, a valid Notice of Violation has the >> effects it describes. CFJ 2481 and the associated cases are of note >> here: though the NoV's in question were certainly incorrect, they were >> valid and had t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Random rules for the Anarchist

2009-06-24 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
> I like this idea, but I'm not so sure that it's what the Anarchist's > duties embody. > Just because we don't like government doesn't mean we can't be a vector for positive change!

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Hmm, there's two possible ways an incorrect election notice can be VALID. > (1) It can be VALID in initiating an election, even though it's incorrect > in some specified detail; but the platonic "correct" information governed in > the rules is w

DIS: Re: BUS: Random rules for the Anarchist

2009-06-24 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > Proposal: Medieval Anarchy (AI=1, II=0) > { > WHEREAS Agora has graced the world of Nomic with its presence for > nearly 16 years (1600 in Nomic years), and > > WHEREAS such a long-running Nomic SHOULD leave behind medieval > trappings, an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6355 - 6376

2009-06-24 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:19 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> On 6369, c-walker endorsed the contestmaster who awarded the most >>> points in May.  By my count, the totals by contest were >>> >>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Judge allispaul's Arguments: >> Importantly, a valid Notice of Violation has the >> effects it describes.  CFJ 2481 and the associated cases are of note >> here: though the NoV's in question were certai

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6355 - 6376

2009-06-24 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:19 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> On 6369, c-walker endorsed the contestmaster who awarded the most >> points in May.  By my count, the totals by contest were >> >>     x    y  contest >> >>    29   36  3-Scroll Rodney >>   1

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2574 assigned to Taral

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Appeal 2574a > > Panelist: G. > Decision: OVERRULE/FALSE > > Panelist: Quazie > Decision:

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2610 judged TRUE by allispaul

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Judge allispaul's Arguments: > Importantly, a valid Notice of Violation has the > effects it describes. CFJ 2481 and the associated cases are of note > here: though the NoV's in question were certainly incorrect, they were > valid and had the effect of crea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: R101 Safety Net

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, comex wrote: > On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Oh ps., if this is part of another method for sticking this through, there's >> an old precedent that says "reasonable time" for response when unspecified >> is >> a minimum of 4 days (precedent said that, giv

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: R101 Safety Net

2009-06-24 Thread comex
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Oh ps., if this is part of another method for sticking this through, there's an old precedent that says "reasonable time" for response when unspecified is a minimum of 4 days (precedent said that, given Agoran culture and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6355-6376

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:29 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> G. wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > 6372 D 1 2.0 G. Transition Team AGAINST >>> I'm a little puzzled by opposition to this (not just on your part, other >>> voters too...) is

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: R101 Safety Net

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, comex wrote: > [I assume this counts as reasonably public review for the Rule Change > of creating that rule, even if it is performed other than through the > proposal actually passing.] Oh ps., if this is part of another method for sticking this through, there's an old prec

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: R101 Safety Net

2009-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, comex wrote: > I submit the following proposal, entitled "R101 Safety Net" (AI=3): > { > Enact a new Power=3 Rule reading: > > comex CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement, as > long as e published the amendment for public review at least 24 > hours

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:36 +0100, C-walker wrote: > > Really? I thought recordkeepors could create assets that they > > recordkeep, but they got to the L&FD because the recordkeepor doesn't > > have an ability to give them owners. > > I don't think the assets rule specifies whose possession the a

DIS: Re: [s-b] BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:43 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: >> C-walker wrote: >> > I agree to the following contract. Being its only party, I flip its >> > Publicity to Public. >> > >> > I intend, without 3 objections, to flip its contestmaster to C-walke

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6377-6384

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 01:34 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Aaron Goldfein wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > >>> Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Your voting limit is 8. > >>> Incorrect. > >>> > >> > >> Rule . > > Ru

DIS: Re: [s-b] BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
> I object (in both Agora and B). Points inflation is bad enough, and I > think part of the reason is that people haven't been objecting to new > contests that haven't been widely discussed aggressively enough. > > -- > ais523 > > ___ > spoon-business mai

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What a coincidence...

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > > coppro wrote: > >> Warrigal wrote: > >>> ...that I should have two different jobs thrust upon me at the same > >>> time as I'm installed as Conductor. I resign as Conductor, thereby > >>> fulfilling th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, C-walker wrote: > I don't think the assets rule specifies whose possession the assets > are created in, so I assumed that that was up to the recordkeepor. CFJ 1850

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread C-walker
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 16:39 +0100, C-walker wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, >> > C-walker wrote: >> >> With the consent of myself, I amend "The Grid" by replacing >> > >> > P

DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:43 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > C-walker wrote: > > I agree to the following contract. Being its only party, I flip its > > Publicity to Public. > > > > I intend, without 3 objections, to flip its contestmaster to C-walker in B. > > > > I intend, without 3 objections, to fli

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 16:39 +0100, C-walker wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, > > C-walker wrote: > >> With the consent of myself, I amend "The Grid" by replacing > > > > Probably fails since it's not a contract; a non-pledge contr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6355-6376

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:29 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > G. wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >>> 6372 D 1 2.0 G. Transition Team > >> AGAINST > > > > I'm a little puzzled by opposition to this (not just on your part, other > > voters too...) is there a bug

Re: DIS: Act on Behalf

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:12 +0100, C-walker wrote: > When a player (the attorney) acts on behalf of another player to > perform an action, that action is performed as if the attorney is the > player e is acting on behalf of. Hypothetical contract: {{Anyone but ais523 can leave this contract.}} Hyp

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6377-6384

2009-06-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Psssht. What's the point of even having Rule ? The prerogative is the only way to circumvent it; if you feel strongly about the WEV not getting > 8 votes, propose powering up (Power 2.222 should do nicely), or spend notes to decreas