On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Kerim Aydin<ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
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> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Judge allispaul's Arguments:
>> Importantly, a valid Notice of Violation has the
>> effects it describes. CFJ 2481 and the associated cases are of note
>> here: though the NoV's in question were certainly incorrect, they were
>> valid and had the effect of creating Rests in the possession of
>> players.
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> Hmm, there's two possible ways an incorrect election notice can be VALID.
> (1) It can be VALID in initiating an election, even though it's incorrect
> in some specified detail; but the platonic "correct" information governed in
> the rules is what really happened (e.g. its really only first-class players
> who were eligible), or (2) it can be VALID and the incorrect information can
> overrule the platonic state. We've tended towards (1) in general, except
> when (2) involves something that has ratified; any particular reason for
> favoring (2) here? The court case you mention doesn't seem to quite cover
> it unless I'm misreading it. Just curious as to your thoughts because IMO
> it's a bit of a (not necessarily wrong) shift. -G.
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Hmm. I haven't been around long enough to know what game custom would
say in this situation, though I did look through the archives a bit.
I interpreted the election notice as purporting to initiate the
election defined by its text, i. e. the election {officer X, eligible
voters Y, valid options Z}. You're interpreting it as initiating an
election for officer X, at which point the rules take over for Y and Z
(and the notice serves only to inform us of this information).
One reason for my interpretation is stylistic: in R107, the matter to
be decided is placed on equal footing with the other parameters of the
decision. Thus, when Yally created a valid notice intiating the
decision {X,Y,Z}, it initiated the voting period for the decision
{X,Y,Z}, as this was the decision described in the notice. In this
matter, it takes precedence over R2154, which describes how an
election is (LEGALLY) initiated.
I hope this is clearer. If there is cause for an appeal, I understand
and am willing to look over game custom more closely if REMANDed.
