Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
Instant Gratification? Leapt Before Lookt? On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > > I retract my proposal "Very little to no lurk time." > > > > Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A > > Lurker. I'll resubmit when I have a mor

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > I retract my proposal "Very little to no lurk time." > > Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A > Lurker. I'll resubmit when I have a more complete list. I think the patent title deserves a better name. Something creative.

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-03 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > I retract my proposal "Very little to no lurk time." > > Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A Lurker. > I'll resubmit when I have a more complete list. Who has the longest lurk time? I have approx 3-4 years

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. > > Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one > > when someone won, and someone indeed did in the first yea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. >> > > Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. > > ...how bad were they? Not bad at all. Actually it's the INS

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: >>> I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. >> >> I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. > Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one > when someone won, and someone indeed did in the first year or so. On a related note, here's a question: how many here

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: >> I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. > > I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. > Original ruleset defined games as ending and b

DIS: Re: BUS: Two Actions

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > I CFJ on the following statement: The first game of Agora lasted 100 years. I think that's in the FAQ, although maybe that's just about R104. Original ruleset defined games as ending and beginning the next one when someone won, and someone indeed did

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Rodlen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: > >> Aaron Goldfein wrote: > >>> But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before > you > >>> created it. E

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. > Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > teucer wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> You never registered, at least not recently. >> >> I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for > > IIRC you are also the "Craig" that was registered fro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: >> Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>>     But Michael created the game.  You at least heard of agora before you >>>     created it.  E created it. >> >>> E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic than I

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > I retract my proposal "Very little to no lurk time." > > Please respond if you believe you deserve the Patent Title of Not A > Lurker. I'll resubmit when I have a more complete list. I do I signed up, immediately registered, and jumped right in.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word "Agora" mean anything not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> You never registered, at least not recently. > > I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the "Craig" that was registered from 25 Apr 02 to 9 Mar 03.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Michael Norrish wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before you >> created it. E created it. > >> E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic than I had. > > I'd read Steve Gardner's Nomic World reports, and th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> I call a CFJ on the statement: "Luke Lockhart is a player." >> > > Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this > time. It was effective the first time. You can retract the second case.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Michael Norrish
Aaron Goldfein wrote: But Michael created the game. You at least heard of agora before you created it. E created it. E had probably played/watched a lot more nomic than I had. I'd read Steve Gardner's Nomic World reports, and that was it. I think this was through a mailing list t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> > (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word "Agora" mean anything not >> > directly related to either Greece or a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > > (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word "Agora" mean anything not > > directly related to either Greece or agoraphobia to you? > > Evidence. > > Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK I do

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> I call a CFJ on the statement: "Luke Lockhart is a player." >> > > Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this > time. I'd retract the second one; you don't need to be a player to initiate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > (11:16:39 PM) craigbdaniel: Does the word "Agora" mean anything not > directly related to either Greece or agoraphobia to you? Evidence. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein >>> wrote: You're not a player. >>> I'm not? >>> >>> Shit, when did I get deregistered? >> You never

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > You're not a player. >>> >>> I'm not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >> > >> > You're not a player. >> >> I'm not? >> >> Shit, when did I get deregistered? > > You never registered, at le

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >> > >> > You're not a player. >> >> I'm not? >> >> Shit, when did I get deregistered? > > You never registered, at le

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: >>> Award the Patent Title of Not A Lurker to Yally. > > Doesn't get my vote unless you poll whom amongst us also deserves this. > -G. Agreed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: >> Award the Patent Title of Not A Lurker to Yally. Doesn't get my vote unless you poll whom amongst us also deserves this. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. > > I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a > player and not barred from registering (either due to recent > deregistration or non-personship), attem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > >>> Of course, in terms of "shortest lurk time", Michael will always win. > >>> -G. > >> > >> Not really. I received a grand total

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > > You're not a player. > > I'm not? > > Shit, when did I get deregistered? > You never registered, at least not recently.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get deregistered?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart >wrote: > >>> I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. > >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing > personal). > >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I transfer a prop from Murphy to coppro because this whole line of prop > transfering is inane. Actually, it's the whole purpose of Props = harmless way to vent ire. Then again your transfer also fulfilled said purpose. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein < > aarongoldf...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal). >>> If I have not already done so this week, I transfer a from cop

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >>> Irresistable. I transfer a prop from G. to Murphy (sorry, nothing personal). >> If I have not already done so this week, I transfer a from coppro to >> ehird because ditto. -G. > > I attempt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>> Of course, in terms of "shortest lurk time", Michael will always win. >>> -G. >> >> Not really. I received a grand total of 0 game messages before registering. > > I assume you were subscribed for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart wrote: >> I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. >> > Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? Er, not knowing what one is wishing and not using the term for becom

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Of course, in terms of "shortest lurk time", Michael will always win. >> -G. > > Not really. I received a grand total of 0 game messages before registering. I assume you were subscribed for a positive finite time?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > > Can non-players get crim CFJs? What if players committed crimes prior > to eir registration? If "you" were a second-class person, would its > parties be liable? If it were, then Luke's message would have been ambiguous.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart >>> wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart >> wrote: >>> >>> I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. >> >> Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart > wrote: >> >> I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. > > Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? > > -Yally > I was assuming "You". Kyle Marek-Spa

DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart wrote: > I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. > Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? -Yally

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Trivial typo != ambiguity Eir CFJ does not check for ambiguities. E is just pointing it out. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> >> Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The >> > eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, >> > and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > >>>You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. > > I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not > a > player and not barred from registering (either due to recent > deregistration or non-personship), at

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Trivial typo != ambiguity On 2009-06-04, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > >> Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The >> > eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, >> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz > wrote: > You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. > > > > I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while > not a > > player and not barred from re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: You at least heard of Agora before you joined it. > > I pledge to transfer a prop from myself to the first person who, while not a > player and not barred from registering (either due to recent > deregistration or non-personship), attem

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The > eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, > and the options are Murphy (incumbent), You May Call Me Big Fucking > Edward, and PRESENT. I vote for Me.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >> To reduce long-term ambiguity, I deposit all my crops in the IBA in the >> order that maximizes the net amount of zm thereby gained. > > > If this is correct: > > Player 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Don't rip bankers off

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 16:19, Benjamin > Caplan wrote: >> comex wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM, comex wrote: I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in diff format). ?The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA, the option

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Taral
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, comex wrote: > YOU MAY CALL ME BIG FUCKING EDWARD Does that mean comex is now BIG FUCKING EDWARD? -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Don't rip bankers off

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 16:19, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > comex wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM, comex wrote: >>> I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in >>> diff format). �The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA, the >>> options are FOR, AGAINST, and PRES

DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] CotC Election

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Elliott Hird < penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 2009/6/4 Aaron Goldfein : > > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the CotC office. The > eligible > > voters are the active players, the vote collector is the IADoP, and the > > options are Murphy (

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Quazie wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: >> >> > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Wed,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin >> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P > >> > >> I didn't. Registered within an hou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I'm assuming the last word of paragraph 3 should have been "Black." Yes, copy+paste error.

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > To reduce long-term ambiguity, I deposit all my crops in the IBA in the > order that maximizes the net amount of zm thereby gained. If this is correct: Player 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV Pavitra1 7 0

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > >> Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted >> only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to >> the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered >> transfers (before the amendment I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted > only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to > the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered > transfers (before the amendment I proposed, which specifies

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
Actions in Agora are generally ordered; unordered actions are accepted only when they cause no ambiguity because the order is unimportant to the rules. Assets are rule-defined entities and allowing the unordered transfers (before the amendment I proposed, which specifies a default order, ta

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 13:51, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Arguments: Pavitra didn't say "I transfer all my crops to the IBA", >> instead e attempted to perform an action defined by the IBA contract >> (deposit) which if successful would result in t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > Arguments: Pavitra didn't say "I transfer all my crops to the IBA", > instead e attempted to perform an action defined by the IBA contract > (deposit) which if successful would result in the transfer of assets > from Pavitra to the bank. "A per

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: >>> I had a printout copy of the ruleset the first time i started agora. >> I ran out of paper. > > Double sided. In parentheses. In quotation

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 13:30, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >> I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. > > I CFJ on: "Pavitra owns at least 1 crop." > > Evidence: comex claims the deposit fails because e didn't specify an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: >> I had a printout copy of the ruleset the first time i started agora. > I ran out of paper. Double sided.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P > >> > >> I didn't. Registered wit

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P >> >> I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I >> attempted to an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Directed at Yally. On 2009-06-03, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Sgeo wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird >> wrote: >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P > > I'm not antilurk. I'm merely a hands on learner. > > Kyle Marek-Spart

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P > > I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I > attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered.  And no, you can't > have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Quazie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >>> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P >> >> I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I >> attempted to and caused a CFJ, *

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Benjamin Caplan
comex wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >> All this is far more complicated than it's worth. >> { >> Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph: >> � � �A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public >> � � �contract to which the person on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P > > I didn't.  Registered within an hour of finding this place.  Well, I > attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered.  And no, you can't > h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I didn't. Registered within an hour of finding this place. Well, I attempted to and caused a CFJ, *then* registered. And no, you can't have your frisbee back. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Sgeo wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird > wrote: >> Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I'm not antilurk. I'm merely a hands on learner. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Sgeo
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P I've lurked since 2005... kind of. I was interested in Agora in 2005, but did not participate, nor did I ask to be a watcher. I was subscribed to a-d, but nothing else. I eventually got bore

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
He had it for B. On 2009-06-03, Ed Murphy wrote: > c-walker wrote: > >> No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. >> >> -- >> C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. > > NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, > as one cannot rely on every

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > c-walker wrote: > >> No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. >> >> -- >> C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. > > NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, > as one cannot rely on every

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: > No, you're right. I thought I had joined. I join the IBA. > > -- > C-walker, who clearly intends this message to be public. NttPF (and there's Agoran precedent that your .sig doesn't work, as one cannot rely on everyone being subscribed to a-d)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM, comex wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, comex wrote: > >> I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in > >> diff format). The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA,

DIS: Re: BUS: [IBA] Motion to Amend

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, comex wrote: >> I initiate a Motion to Amend, specifying the following amendment (in >> diff format).  The eligible voters are the parties to the IBA, the >> options are FOR, AGAINST, and PRESENT, and I am th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We Should Have Done This Long Ago

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Get off my lawn! Even I lurked for a month or two :P On 2009-06-03, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Paul VanKoughnett > wrote: > >> Clearly I'm a player. I registered in the seventh sentence of my first >> e-mail. >> >> And, Yally, I've been lurking at least a year. Is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Sucks The iPhone But I'm sorry On 2009-06-03, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Paul VanKoughnett wrote: >> What about private contracts? > > It was suggested recently, and I think I agree, that private > act-on-behalf authorization is generally a Bad Thing because it makes it > difficult or impossible to

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
As Wooble said, the PBA is bootstrapped and simpler than the IBA to boot - but Step 1. Gain active economy. On 2009-06-03, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. > > Pavitra >

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Elliott Hird
Someone attempts to inactivate you. (A) Start participating (B) Let it happen (C) Just object without justification for eternity, inflating quorum. > C On 2009-06-03, Christian Julius wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex wrote: >> >> I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbon

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Sean Hunt : > Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> 2009/6/3 Aaron Goldfein : >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Aaron Goldfein >>> wrote: I award myself a Cyan Ribbon (I deputized for the IADoP a long time ago but never awarded myself a ribbon). >>> Also, I award myself a Green Ribbon

DIS: Re: BUS: Cyan Ribbon

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/6/3 Aaron Goldfein : >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> I award myself a Cyan Ribbon (I deputized for the IADoP a long time ago >>> but never awarded myself a ribbon). >> Also, I award myself a Green Ribbon for my services as IADoP duri

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >      The Assessor's report contains a list of all pending intents to >      perform dependent actions. Doesn't really work; just post your sneaky intent immediately after the Assessor's report is published and you can resolve it before a ne

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:18 PM, comex wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: > > All this is far more complicated than it's worth. > > { > > Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph: > > A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > All this is far more complicated than it's worth. > { > Amend rule 1742 (Contracts) by appending the paragraph: >      A person CAN on behalf of another as authorized by a public >      contract to which the person on whose behalf e is acti

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

2009-06-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I join the IBA, deposit all my crops in it, and request subsidy. Sorry, but this fails as the order is unspecified.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/3 Geoffrey Spear : > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christian Julius wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex wrote: >>> >>> I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive. >> >> I object to making Siege inactive. > > Can we inactivate by proposal? I don't see why not. --

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

2009-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christian Julius wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex wrote: >> >> I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive. > > I object to making Siege inactive. Can we inactivate by proposal?

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