Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Harvesting some lower-power amended rules

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why is it 3 * floor(power) rather than floor(3 * power) to begin with? >> My recommendation for an equitable resolution is to amend the >> contract to match the practice. > > > [[WP:SOFIXIT]] Doesn't bother me enough.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Harvesting some lower-power amended rules

2008-10-10 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:08 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 09 October 2008 10:53:28 pm Charles Reiss wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 20:37, Roger Hicks wrote: I create the following crops in the possession of ais523: 8, 3, 5

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: >> ehird did, in fact, illegally reveal it to me. (E was simultaneously >> 1) required to reveal it to the AFO >> 2) prohibited from revealing it to the AFO >> 3) prohibited from re

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > ehird did, in fact, illegally reveal it to me. (E was simultaneously > 1) required to reveal it to the AFO > 2) prohibited from revealing it to the AFO > 3) prohibited from revealing it to me > so any criminal prosecution on #2, and possibly #3 as well,

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > On Friday 10 October 2008 04:40:18 pm Ed Murphy wrote: >> Only on ehird's end; it wouldn't prevent me from revealing the >> password (I'm not a party, only the AFO is). > > How would you find out the password unless someone (e.g., the AFO) > illegally revealed it to you? ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about: > > { > Once each week, for each mill e owned at the beginning of that week, a > farmer may mill by specifying two crops e owns. E then forms a > mathematical expression using the values of those two crops and the

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 04:40:18 pm Ed Murphy wrote: > Only on ehird's end; it wouldn't prevent me from revealing the > password (I'm not a party, only the AFO is). How would you find out the password unless someone (e.g., the AFO) illegally revealed it to you?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 09:05:52 am Roger Hicks wrote: > { > Once each week for each Operator, a farmer may mill by destroying > two crops e owns. E then forms a mathematical expression using the > values of those two crops and the value of the chosen Operator > exactly once each, and e evaluates

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Friday 10 October 2008 03:16:38 pm comex wrote: >>> Parties to Russian Roulette SHALL NOT reveal the password to the >>> zip file this text file is contained in, publicly or privately in >>> any forum or o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5765-5778

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Ivan Hope wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 18:21, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5772 D 1 2.0 Murphy Loose ordering of ID numbers >>> LLAMA (PRESENT) >> The above vote is invalid per the Llama party agreem

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 10 October 2008 03:16:38 pm comex wrote: >> Parties to Russian Roulette SHALL NOT reveal the password to the >> zip file this text file is contained in, publicly or privately in >> any forum or other method of commun

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 04:19:52 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ben Caplan wrote: > > Presumably the miller is supposed to be the farmer whose mill is > > milling. In a mill rental (let Alice be renting eir mill to Bob), > > Alice's mill is consuming Bob's crops and giving

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 03:49:32 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ben Caplan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It might be less clear to someone who knows what the encrypted > > text *really* says: > > > > Russians SHALL NOT eat cake. > > > > In a timely fashion after joini

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:47, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> announcement, with the consent of that farmer. At the beginning of >>> each

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Presumably the miller is supposed to be the farmer whose mill is > milling. In a mill rental (let Alice be renting eir mill to Bob), > Alice's mill is consuming Bob's crops and giving the result to Bob. > (This is effectively

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 22:11, Ian Kelly wrote: Note the proposed revision would fix this. -root It is quite irrelevant now. -- ehird

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It might be less clear to someone who knows what the encrypted text >> *really* says: >> >> Russians SHALL NOT eat cake. >> >> In a timely fashion afte

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might be less clear to someone who knows what the encrypted text > *really* says: > > Russians SHALL NOT eat cake. > > In a timely fashion after joining, each Russian SHALL reveal the > encrypted text to a non-Foreign forum

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5765-5778

2008-10-10 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 16:39 -0400, ihope wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 18:21, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> 5772 D 1 2.0 Murphy Loose ordering of ID numbers > >> LLAMA (PRESENT) > > > > The above vote

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 03:23:01 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2008, at 21:16, comex wrote: > >> snip > > > > I initiate an equity case regarding Russian Roulette, parties: > > me, AFO, Embassy. > > > > It was clearly not envisioned that the text i

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 10 Oct 2008, at 21:16, comex wrote: > >> snip > > I initiate an equity case regarding Russian Roulette, parties: me, AFO, > Embassy. > > It was clearly not envisioned that the text inside the zip would be revealed. You might think so... I cannot poss

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Friday 10 October 2008 03:16:38 pm comex wrote: > Parties to Russian Roulette SHALL NOT reveal the password to the > zip file this text file is contained in, publicly or privately in > any forum or other method of communication (the password in > question is ""). (...) > ehird MUST email the pas

DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread comex
Parties to Russian Roulette CANNOT leave Russian Roulette. Parties to Russian Roulette SHALL NOT reveal the password to the zip file this text file is contained in, publicly or privately in any forum or other method of communication (the password in question is ""). Parties to Russian Roulette MU

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Ben Caplan
On Thursday 09 October 2008 11:36:38 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 09 October 2008 05:34:37 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > >> 10. A farmer's milling queue is initially empty. A farmer (the > >> miller) may add milling jobs to the

DIS: Re: BUS: Russian Roulette

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:58, Ian Kelly wrote: The Embassy also joins this contract. Please specify how I can contact the Embassy, as it is not a player. c/o you? Thanks. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inquiry case

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:37, comex wrote: > Sorry, but this is trivially TRUE. ehird did, in fact, decide to disclose the password to the AFO's other partners. yah, pikhq too -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Inquiry case

2008-10-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I initiate an inquiry case on the following statement, disqualifying > ehird: > > The AFO is bound by the Russian Roulette contract. > > Caller's arguments: > > ehird has disclosed the password to me, but (to the best of m

Re: DIS: Proto: Judges for high-profile equity cases

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I could record this in the database as three separate assigns (similar >> to appeal panels, a holdover from the old justices / appellate judges >> system) but I'm concerned that it might confuse some of the scr

Re: DIS: Proto: Judges for high-profile equity cases

2008-10-10 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 12:15 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > I could record this in the database as three separate assigns (similar > to appeal panels, a holdover from the old justices / appellate judges > system) but I'm concerned that it might confuse some of the scripts. I > recommend the following in

Re: DIS: Proto: Judges for high-profile equity cases

2008-10-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could record this in the database as three separate assigns (similar > to appeal panels, a holdover from the old justices / appellate judges > system) but I'm concerned that it might confuse some of the scripts. I > recommen

Re: DIS: Proto: Judges for high-profile equity cases

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > AI: 1.7 > { > In R2169 replace: > {{ > The members of the bases of the parties to the contract are all > unqualified to be assigned as judge of the case. > }} > with: > {{ > The members of the bases of the parties to the contract are all > unqualified to be assigned as judge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED

2008-10-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Sgeo wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED >>> (AI = 1.7, please) >>> >>> Ivan Hope and Pavitra are co-authors of this proposal. >>> >>> Amend Rule 1504 (Crimi

DIS: Re: BUS: Russian Roulette

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:00, Ed Murphy wrote: The AFO joins this contract. I assume that I can contact the AFO by contacting each of its members? -- ehird

DIS: Proto: Judges for high-profile equity cases

2008-10-10 Thread Roger Hicks
AI: 1.7 { In R2169 replace: {{ The members of the bases of the parties to the contract are all unqualified to be assigned as judge of the case. }} with: {{ The members of the bases of the parties to the contract are all unqualified to be assigned as judge of the case. However, if this would c

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5765-5778

2008-10-10 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:28 -0700, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE I vote as follows: > 5765 O 1 1.0 Wooble AGAINSTx3 > 5766 O 0 1.0 ais523 root made me do it AGAINSTx2 > 5767 D 1 2.0 Murphy Be careful what you start

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Harvesting some lower-power amended rules

2008-10-10 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 23:08 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 09 October 2008 10:53:28 pm Charles Reiss wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 20:37, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> > I create the following crops in the possession

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Farewell...?

2008-10-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:23, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2008, at 15:58, comex wrote: >> >> I object. If you want to leave in a huff, do it the proper way (R1789). > > I do not. I am trying, through the mechanism of Agoran Consent, to determine > whether I am welcome or not. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Farewell...?

2008-10-10 Thread ehird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 15:58, comex wrote: I object. If you want to leave in a huff, do it the proper way (R1789). I do not. I am trying, through the mechanism of Agoran Consent, to determine whether I am welcome or not. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not In Vain

2008-10-10 Thread comex
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dunno. I'll check. Who was your supporting ranked knight? You know well the contents of Section Five (or at least that's the number I have; you may have a different number for the section).

DIS: Re: BUS: Request to join.

2008-10-10 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 19:53 -0500, 0x44 wrote: > I wish to register as a player of Agora with the name 0x44. > Welcome! (Just a note: most of the time you take a game action by saying that you take it, not that you wish to take it or request to take it. Registration was special-cased because peopl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED

2008-10-10 Thread Sgeo
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED >> (AI = 1.7, please) >> >> Ivan Hope and Pavitra are co-authors of this proposal. >> >> Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by replacin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED

2008-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wasn't there a proposal to fix this a while ago? What happened to it? P5612. It failed with a VI of 0.4, possibly because it redefined INNOCENT instead of just fixing the "allegedly" bit of OVERLOOKED.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 08:05, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:47, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> announcement, with the consent of that farmer. At the beginning of >>> each we

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposed AAA change

2008-10-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:47, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> announcement, with the consent of that farmer. At the beginning of >> each week, after Digit Ranches produce crops, each Mill processes and >> removes t

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED

2008-10-10 Thread Sgeo
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposal: Fix OVERLOOKED > (AI = 1.7, please) > > Ivan Hope and Pavitra are co-authors of this proposal. > > Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by replacing this text: > > * OVERLOOKED, appropriate if the alleged act allege

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Secure points

2008-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal titled "Secure points": > > Upmutate Rule 2136 to power 2. > Upmutate Rule 2179 to power 2, and amend it by appending to the first > paragraph the text: > > Changes to point holdings are secu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Harvesting some lower-power amended rules

2008-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it 3 * floor(power) rather than floor(3 * power) to begin with? > My recommendation for an equitable resolution is to amend the > contract to match the practice. I'm not sure that's an equitable resolution under the cu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2008-10-10 Thread ehird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 03:42, Benjamin Schultz wrote: On Oct 7, 2008, at 6:35 PM, comex wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (list of numbers which provides absolutely no context, forcing me to go back to the relevant distributions to find out what's