DIS: Proto: Contract Cleanup, take two

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Proto-Proposal: Contract Changes, take two (AI = 1.5, please) [Zefram, root, you voted against the previous version of this; would you support this revision?] Amend Rule 1742 (Contracts) by replacing this text: A contract automatically terminates if the number of parties to it falls

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Taral
On 4/14/08, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taral: I don't know what you're talking about. aloud: audibly allowed: permitted -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Eris wrote: > On 4/14/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Murphy pledged on 2/10 to swap two VVLOD increases (by spending >> Gb Bb Db on eir end). > > For the purpose of the above pledge: > I spend Eb G Db to increase Murphy's voting limit by one. > I spend Eb G Db to increase Murphy's

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Iammars
Taral: I don't know what you're talking about. Murphy: Okay then. Name changed to Experience Points. Ivan: I wasn't sure about that when I wrote it, and I'm still not sure about it now. I'll allow the rules to change them as well. Also, Weapons are now announced. root: 1. D'oh! Didn't notice that e

Re: DIS: second life

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM, David Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > has anyone set up any Agora space on Second Life? Not so far as I'm aware, but now that you mention it, a Second Life Nomic could be pretty interesting. Like Nomic World, but 3D. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Notary Report, Take 1

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > But, ummm, is it just me, or did Murphy judge CFJs 1911-13 FALSE > without argument and without publishing the result in the database? I > suppose I didn't notice it at the time... I did present arguments, but missed entering them into the database at the time. I just added them

Re: DIS: Proto-Pseudo Contest: Points Relay Service

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> With the attendant risk that, while a pseudo-contest exists that is >> deemed unfair, then (since it has no contest-hood to revoke) players >> may move to revoke the PRS's contest-hood instead. > > Why? The

DIS: second life

2008-04-14 Thread David Nicol
has anyone set up any Agora space on Second Life? -- bringing useful insights from Computer Science to the larger world

Re: DIS: Proto-Pseudo Contest: Points Relay Service

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the attendant risk that, while a pseudo-contest exists that is > deemed unfair, then (since it has no contest-hood to revoke) players > may move to revoke the PRS's contest-hood instead. Why? The procedure for revok

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read "and consents" there as meaning I only SHALL do that if another > active player consents to eir nomination within the minimum waiting > period. I have no intention of initiating an election. Which is exactly w

Re: DIS: Proto-Pseudo Contest: Points Relay Service

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Member contracts could be contests using the PRS as a spillover when > it's points maximum is reached, or they could be pseudo contests with > no official status that use the PRS for their sole means of points > awards. With the attendant risk that, while a pseudo-contest exists t

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If, during the minimum waiting period between intent and action > defined for Agoran Consent, another active player is nominated > in this way and consents, then the IADoP SHALL as soon as > possible in

Re: DIS: Proto-Pseudo Contest: Points Relay Service

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Member contracts could be contests using the PRS as a spillover when > it's points maximum is reached, or they could be pseudo contests with > no official status that use the PRS for their sole means of points > awards.

DIS: Proto-Pseudo Contest: Points Relay Service

2008-04-14 Thread Roger Hicks
A contest to simplify contests and allow a single player to run multiple contests without breaking the rules: Points Relay Service { 1. Any player may join or leave this contract by announcement. Parties to this contract are known as Awardees. 2. Any player may amend this contract without three o

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The IADoP is thus due to start > > an Ambassador election in which BobTHJ is the only option. > > Run for your lives, Agorans! A one-option vote is ALW

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's reasonable to interpret "during" as "not including the > endpoints" in this situation. Still, the issue needs fixing. > > Proposal: No uncontested elections > (AI = 2, II = 0, please) > > Amend Rule 2154 (Re

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4 - Status > Status is a player switch with values of Won, Lost, Hosting and Fighting > (default). A player's Status may only be flipped by the Referee. The Referee > may be the only player whose Status is set to Hosting. >

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread comex
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The IADoP is thus due to start > an Ambassador election in which BobTHJ is the only option. Run for your lives, Agorans! A one-option vote is ALWAYS the start of a coup! BobTHJ has by devious means tricked Agora into confi

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread ihope
Got my vote (even though it's not a proposal), though you may want to reconsider how the contract flips switches that can only be flipped by the Referee. Is that legal? Also, the Referee announcing what Weapons were used would be nice. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Iammars wrote: > Fight Arena Points (hereafter FAPs) are a type of currency. Can we not use this acronym, please?

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, this is an interesting situation. The way I read R2154, if > multiple candidates were consent at this point, no election would be > triggered. Instead, Murphy would simply have the option of installing > whichev

Re: DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Taral
On 4/14/08, Iammars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1 - Contractness > The name of this contract is "The Fight Arena". This is a public > contract. aloud -> allowed (globally). -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/14/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wrote on April 6: > > > > > I nominate BobTHJ, comex, Pavitra, and woggle for Ambassador. > > > > BobTHJ consented. Wooble supported, Zefram objected. > > > > Zefr

DIS: Proto-Contest: The Fight Arena

2008-04-14 Thread Iammars
1 - Contractness The name of this contract is "The Fight Arena". This is a public contract. 2 - Referee The Referee is responsible for maintaining this contract. If this contract is a contest, the Referee is its contestmaster. 3 - Basic Contract Stuff Any player may become party to this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Enigma

2008-04-14 Thread Iammars
Do you have it already? Remember, I like it if people let me know how they're doing as they've solved it/solving it. I'm just curious to see how hard they actually are so I can improve as a puzzle writer. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/14/08, Ed Murphy <

DIS: Re: BUS: Enigma

2008-04-14 Thread Taral
On 4/14/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last week, Iammars submitted the following puzzle, titled "A Fairly > Simple Paragraph Puzzle": Cute. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Taral
On 4/14/08, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote on April 6: > > > I nominate BobTHJ, comex, Pavitra, and woggle for Ambassador. > > BobTHJ consented. Wooble supported, Zefram objected. > > Zefram also supported woggle and objected to comex. > > Right now, I can't resolve any of thes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread ihope
On 14/04/2008, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is interesting to note that, had the BoA joined the AAA after the > messages in question, but before issuing its report, then upon self- > ratification a week from now the pens (but not the crops) would have > sprung into existence, creating

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Notary Report, Take 1

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
ihope wrote: > On 10/04/2008, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can this part be table-ified? Maybe with the members listed in the >> same section. > > What do you mean? Make a table with the contracts as rows and people > as columns and put an X wherever the person is a party to the > c

DIS: Interim update on Ambassador nominations

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote on April 6: > I nominate BobTHJ, comex, Pavitra, and woggle for Ambassador. BobTHJ consented. Wooble supported, Zefram objected. Zefram also supported woggle and objected to comex. Right now, I can't resolve any of these attempts. The time limit for me to do so is April 20.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 14 April 2008 12:33:24 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Ben Caplan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the Bank of Agora joined the AAA in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > All you said there was "I make those changes," with no contextual > quoting that act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since ownership of crops is restricted to farmers, and the Bank of > Agora is not a farmer (not yet anyway) then what is the current state > of these crops? Did your transfer fail? or were the crops destroyed > when you t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2008 9:40:59 Roger Hicks wrote: > > Since ownership of crops is restricted to farmers, and the Bank of > > Agora is not a farmer (not yet anyway) then what is the current state > > of these crops? Did you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread Ben Caplan
On Monday 14 April 2008 9:40:59 Roger Hicks wrote: > Since ownership of crops is restricted to farmers, and the Bank of > Agora is not a farmer (not yet anyway) then what is the current state > of these crops? Did your transfer fail? or were the crops destroyed > when you transferred them? I belie

DIS: Re: BUS: The Bank of Agora: Banker's Report

2008-04-14 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 5:16 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List of pen holdings and Bankers: > > ihope: 441 (Banker) > BobTHJ: 0 (Banker) > > Total: 441 pens (Banker quota is 45) > > The Bank of Agora's offerings: > > 0 Crops: 3 > 1 Crops: 1 > 4 Crops: 2 > 9 Crops: 2 > Since owner