DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report

2007-08-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report Date of this Report: Tue 28 Aug 2007 Date of last Report: Sat 18 Aug 2007 Date last ratified : Tue 03 May 2005 Ratified Report: Thu 28 Apr 2005 (All times are in UTC. Precision in timing not guaranteed.) EVENT HISTORY 16 A

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/28/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/28/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just playing devil's advocate here: a failure to satisfy an > > obligation before it is removed is still a failure to satisfy that > > obligation. In any other circumstance there would be no issue

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/28/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > >Arguably, removing an obligation does not count as satisfying it. > > Indeed it does not. But it does mean that there is no longer an > unsatisfied obligation. Precedent is pretty clear that there is no > obligation unless the ru

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >Arguably, removing an obligation does not count as satisfying it. Indeed it does not. But it does mean that there is no longer an unsatisfied obligation. Precedent is pretty clear that there is no obligation unless the rules currently impose one. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/28/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > >This might be considered a violation of Rule 2157, wrt the R2158 > >requirement to assign a judgement ASAP. > > I believe not, because self-recusal removes the obligation to judge. > However, as there's only one qualified panel for

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/28/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/28/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I intend to cause the panel to recuse itself. > I support this, and note that you haven't responded to the email I sent you. > You'll have to resend, I can find any such e-mail. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1729: assign root

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/28/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/28/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I submit the following proposal: > > > > Make Bob's messages valid > > AI: 3 > > { > > Flip the publicity of agora-discussion@agoranomic.org to "Public" > > } > > This defeats the purpose of th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread comex
On 8/28/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to cause the panel to recuse itself. I support this, and note that you haven't responded to the email I sent you.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >This might be considered a violation of Rule 2157, wrt the R2158 >requirement to assign a judgement ASAP. I believe not, because self-recusal removes the obligation to judge. However, as there's only one qualified panel for this case, I'd just have to assign the same panel again.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1729: assign root

2007-08-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/28/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Make Bob's messages valid > AI: 3 > { > Flip the publicity of agora-discussion@agoranomic.org to "Public" > } This defeats the purpose of the discussion forum. We might just as well strip the DF of its forum

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/28/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/27/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Therefore, I intend to cause the panel to judge AFFIRM on the appeal > > > of CFJ 1711. > > > > I will agree to this judgement if BobTHJ does,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1729: assign root

2007-08-28 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >I object, NTTPF. > not that it has any meaning... It doesn't in the DF, certainly. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/27/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Therefore, I intend to cause the panel to judge AFFIRM on the appeal > > of CFJ 1711. > > I will agree to this judgement if BobTHJ does, although as I stated in > my own analysis, I would prefer a ju

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1729: assign root

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal root's judgement of CFJ 1729. > I object, not that it has any meaning... BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-28 Thread Zefram
Levi Stephen wrote: >Why doesn't a panel qualify as a partnership under Rule 2145? It's not a contract. It's governed solely by R2157, and is not subject to amendment or dissolution by the procedures of R1742. I designed judicial panels to be non-persons but to take advantage of some of the conc

Re: DIS: proto: allow non-player wins

2007-08-28 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ed Murphy wrote: When a non-player wins the game, e becomes a player. Mm. You still need the changes that I protoed, of course. Automatic registration is potentially a problem, if it could happen without the subject intending to play Agora in the wid