Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: The Variety Show

2007-08-13 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: d) 1 point to a contestant who was an officer all week. e) 1 point to a contestant who was not an officer all week. j) 1 point to a contestant who is a partnership. Whereas the others are nice, these (and maybe h)) seem boring as you could award these e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: The Variety Show

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On 8/14/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby agree to be bound by the following agreement: This contract does not exist until someone else agrees to it, correct? Someone has. Two someones, in fact. d) 1 point to a contestant who was an officer all week.

DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: The Variety Show

2007-08-13 Thread comex
On 8/14/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby agree to be bound by the following agreement: This contract does not exist until someone else agrees to it, correct? > > d) 1 point to a contestant who was an officer all week. > e) 1 point to a contestant who was not an of

Re: DIS: proto: more knaves

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: Eww. I couldn't think of a better way to allow a player to be a Knight and a Knave at the same time. Smullyan is rolling over in his grave. Peekee is jumping for joy, but you can't tell which ones are him and which ones are just poin

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: map, again

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: No, it isn't. S/(S+O) = 0/(0+0) = 0/0 = 0 (Rule 2146), which is <= 1/2 (Rule 2124), so the OSbA is REJECTED (Rule 955). You're right. Therefore, my notice resolving the decision was invalid, so the decision is still active. Would you

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: map, again

2007-08-13 Thread comex
On Monday 13 August 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: > No, it isn't. S/(S+O) = 0/(0+0) = 0/0 = 0 (Rule 2146), which > is <= 1/2 (Rule 2124), so the OSbA is REJECTED (Rule 955). You're right. Therefore, my notice resolving the decision was invalid, so the decision is still active. Would you like to vote

DIS: Re: OFF: map, again

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: For the agoran decision I initiated in this message: http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-August/007098.html (published 7 days ago) the options available are APPROVED and REJECTED. No votes were made. The option therefore selected by Agora is APP

Re: DIS: proto: more knaves

2007-08-13 Thread comex
On Monday 13 August 2007, Ed Murphy wrote: > Eww. I couldn't think of a better way to allow a player to be a Knight and a Knave at the same time. > Ooh, tricky. Does "6000 FOR" count as a statement? I don't see how this modification makes the issue (which could be CFJed) any *more* relevant.

Re: DIS: proto: more knaves

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: Amend the rule titled "Truthiness, or the Island of Knights and Knaves" by replacing the entire text of the rule with: Knight and Knave are player switches with values NAY and YAY, tracked by the Speaker, with default values of YAY and NAY, respectively. Eww. Co

DIS: proto: more knaves

2007-08-13 Thread comex
Amend the rule titled "Truthiness, or the Island of Knights and Knaves" by replacing the entire text of the rule with: Knight and Knave are player switches with values NAY and YAY, tracked by the Speaker, with default values of YAY and NAY, respectively. A knight SHAL

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > Incidentally, I don't like these new dependent action rules; all the > > Agoran decision cruft makes them much more heavyweight than they > > really have any need to be. When are we ever going to use a dependent > > action with a

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: Incidentally, I don't like these new dependent action rules; all the Agoran decision cruft makes them much more heavyweight than they really have any need to be. When are we ever going to use a dependent action with a majority index other than one? When we think of something impor

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > >The option therefore selected by Agora is APPROVED; I hereby appeal > >CFJ 1646, with the arguments above. > > You can't: R911 sets a time limit of two weeks (from the judgement), > which expired long ago. If you want to revisit t

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Identity Crises

2007-08-13 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A person "publishes" or "announces" something by sending a >public message. Each public message is considered to be sent >by the person it identifies as its sender, unless an inquiry >case pertaining to the truth of

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Identity Crises

2007-08-13 Thread Pavitra
>unless an inquiry >case pertaining to the truth of this identification is not >judged true Consider: unless an inquiry case pertaining to the truth of this identification is judged other than TRUE, and is not overturned in order to ensure that authorship remains as claimed while the case is sti

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Roger Hicks
On 8/13/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/13/07, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe it, I did it again. Stupid technology. > > We've all done it; BobTHJ seems to do it every other message. > > -root > At least BobTHJ

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/13/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I intend to appeal CFJ 1646, with two support. > > I don't believe it, I did it again. Stupid technology. We've all done it; BobTHJ seems to do it every other message. -root

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Pavitra
On 8/13/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to appeal CFJ 1646, with two support. SUPPORT.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Identity Crises

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never received the message you are replying to. Well, it was only sent an hour ago. I've seen delays much longer than that. In the meantime, you can find it in the agora-business archives. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Identity Crises

2007-08-13 Thread comex
On Monday 13 August 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: > On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >public message. Each public message is considered to be sent > >by the person it identifies as its sender, unless an inquiry > >case pertaining to the truth of this identificati

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ratify

2007-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone going to own up to triggering the web form? Proto-CFJ: {{{ A message sent by a Player to a Public Forum announcing that e performs some action satisfies Rule 478's definition of Announcement even if the message is sent by a means that ma

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Identity Crises

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >public message. Each public message is considered to be sent >by the person it identifies as its sender, unless an inquiry >case pertaining to the truth of this identification is not >judged true, in which case it is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Return of Zeitgeist

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: If such a proposal received no AGAINST votes, its proposer gains one Zinnwaldite VC. Zinnwaldite isn't a colour AFAICT. Otherwise I like the proto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinnwaldite_(color)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ratify

2007-08-13 Thread Ed Murphy
Peekee wrote: Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I intend to ratify the VC holdings listed in the Assessor's Report that I published within the past hour. Could that cause problems if it turns out I am not a player anymore? In that situation, the first paragraph of Rule 2126 would cau

DIS: Re: BUS: Taking care of business

2007-08-13 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >I suppose this action is wholly invalid if it turns out that Peekee is >not a player? Yes. You CANNOT install em unless e is an active player. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1719: assign Zefram

2007-08-13 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Zefram, is there any chance of hurrying the judgment of this. I do not want to attempt any actions (Voting etc) whilst my being a player is in doubt. Statement: Peekee is a player Peekee, what are the circumstances around the sending of your deregistra

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ratify

2007-08-13 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I intend to ratify the VC holdings listed in the Assessor's Report that I published within the past hour. Could that cause problems if it turns out I am not a player anymore? -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Return of Zeitgeist

2007-08-13 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > If such a proposal received no AGAINST votes, its proposer > gains one Zinnwaldite VC. Zinnwaldite isn't a colour AFAICT. Otherwise I like the proto. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-08-13 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/13/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > On 8/12/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dates given are generally from the "Date:" header of the applicable > >> message. This is not the legally effective time (CFJ 1646), but is an > >> approximation of it. See the