Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*consciousness^2 ?)

2018-09-21 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
Matt That's according to John's definition thereof. The rest of us do not necessarily agree with such a limited view. At this stage, it cannot be absolutely stated what qualia is. For example, mine is a lot more fuzzy and abstract in terms of autonomous, identifier signalling . And that is but

Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*consciousness^2 ?)

2018-09-21 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
John answered the question. Qualia = sensory input compressed for communication. A thermostat has qualia because it compresses its input to one bit (too hot/too cold) and communicates it to the heater. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 2:00 PM Jim Bromer via AGI wrote: > > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI > > >

Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*consciousness^2 ?)

2018-09-21 Thread Jim Bromer via AGI
> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI > > > > What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, > > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and how > > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test? That is an ontologically flawed question. Jim Bromer On Fri,

Re: [agi] Honestly?

2018-09-21 Thread Steve Richfield via AGI
What Colin is saying here comes in various "flavors". For example... 1. You could simulate individual neurons, but you would probably miss the contributions of various integrating mechanisms that accumulate important statistics. 2. In a few more decades we might know and be able to simulate all o

RE: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*consciousness^2 ?)

2018-09-21 Thread John Rose
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI > > You didn't answer my question. What is qualia? How do I know if monkeys, > fish, insects, human embryos, robots, or thermostats have qualia and how > would they behave differently if they did or did not. What is the test? > Qualia =