[AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I advertised for hiring yesterday, a no experience necessary, get paid to learn MIG mild steel welding. PT/FT flexible hours. We hire 17 year olds. I immediately got crap from this guy saying that the “young people of today” cannot exist on less than $18/hour which is what he gets and he wor

[AFMUG] UDP Server Load Balancer

2023-02-14 Thread Paul Dowling
Anyone know any good, affordable load balancers for UDP servers? Paul -- Paul Dowling dowl...@believebroadband.com Believe Broadband www.believebroadband.com (410) 902-0070 x115 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Tyson Burris
Chuck, As much as I hate to say this, this is a prime example of why America will not see the success it has in the past that you and many others may have seen. Our downfall will be within. I have noticed this same behavior while searching to fill two positions here in Indiana. My starting w

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, that’s a problem for sure. All the youth (and some adults) see online is prosperity and wealth and entitlement. Your definition of existing just doesn’t even come to their minds. To use a phrase, they literally don’t comprehend it. I was living happily in a one room apartment for $400 a

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2023-02-14 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Too many parents want to be friends with their kids and not actually parent. Good news is, if you do a good job of parenting, you’ll likely have the opportunity out to become friends with your kids after they move out. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@c

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
One of my millennial daughters, grown, married, trying to adult, lives with her brother and his wife told me that I just don’t understand how hard it is today compared to when I was younger. So I did a little comparison for her: My first paid job in 1976 was $2/hour. That would be about $10

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread dmmoffett
Some people would put me in the “millennial” category, but only just barely. I was 18 in 1998. Maybe that counts as “Gen Y” or some other thing, but it’s not something I personally identify with either way. At 18 I made minimum wage ($5.25) and shared an apartment with 5 other guys. A year

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Ryan Ray
Chuck, I'm going to assume you're not trying to cherry pick statistics and want to learn and listen. Housing is only one part of the equation. Food, services, fuel, goods are at all time highs. Rental markets are becoming unfeasible unless living with roommates. I'm not sure where or how this mob

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread dmmoffett
We might all sound like the Four Yorkshiremen right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 3:58 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: RE: [AFMUG] FB Exchange Some people would put me

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2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Not sure I am getting your point. Young people frequently struggle when starting out. The struggle is valuable. You get ahead by getting educated, getting trained, learning skills people will pay you for. You do not deserve anything but free air to breath and perhaps water if you live in an

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Bottom of the barrel trailer No, I picked the same thing I lived in as my first house. Are you saying that todays’ kids will not stoop to that same level? Now there’s your sign. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 1:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: C

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Adam Moffett
Mr Ryan, the rental market has been unfeasible at minimum wage without roommates for my entire life. I lived with anywhere from 1-5 other people until I was 30. Even it was feasible without roommates, you'll save so much money by having them that it would be almost crazy not to. On Tue, Feb 14, 2

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
+1 From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange Mr Ryan, the rental market has been unfeasible at minimum wage without roommates for my entire life. I lived with anywhere from 1-5 other people until I was 3

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2023-02-14 Thread Cameron Crum
I wish you were closer. I'd send my son to you for that job to learn welding. He really wants to learn and my skills are pretty basic as I don't do it enough. I can get him started, but nothing like real work to get good. I worked 2 and three jobs while in high school and college. I had a sports sc

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Ryan Ray
I think ages make a huge difference in a lot of this. If you're talking about a 17 year old, you're still living at home, saving all your money, trying to get out. Sure, $17 an hour would be amazing. If you're 22, you should be able to afford a 1br apartment on your own, you shouldn't need roommat

Re: [AFMUG] UDP Server Load Balancer

2023-02-14 Thread John Osmon
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:40:39PM -0500, Paul Dowling wrote: > Anyone know any good, affordable load balancers for UDP servers? I don't have any idea of what your specific application needs are, but if you don't care about state, you can use ECMP with just about any router -- software or hardware

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Adam Moffett
Why? Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 4:54:18 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange I think ages make a huge difference in a lot of th

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Exactly!  You aren’t owed anything!Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Feb 14, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Why? Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on behalf of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 4:54:18 PM To: Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Tyson Burris
Everyone should struggle early on. If you don’t struggle early on and are spoon fed with societies mentally today you’ll create a never ending illusion for yourself that prevents fundamental growth as a human being. Nothing was affordable when my wife and I were in our 20s with 4 kids. It was a

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Fantasy land From: Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:54 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange I think ages make a huge difference in a lot of this. If you're talking about a 17 year old, you're still living at home, saving all your

Re: [AFMUG] Coherent 100G in QSFP28 form factor

2023-02-14 Thread Trey Scarborough
Ill believe it when I have  them in my hands. Adva told us about these months ago and have been waiting for them as long... Enet and Precision have said they will have the same thing for almost a year now. On 2/13/2023 8:37 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: Looks like long-haul 100G is on the menu,

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Ryan Ray
lol. These boomers I swear. Live in your 5 roommate 2000sqft box until 50, retire at 87. Bcck in my day I slept in a dirt pile and we enjoyed it. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:41 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Fantasy land > > *From:* Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:54 PM > *To:* Chuck McC

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Defeatist attitude. Or just jealous? Envy? In 1990 I was so broke I was sitting on the side of the highway with my 4 kids (at the time) selling everything I had to get a bus ticket to get out of town to get to a job to make a few bucks to move the family. Fast forward 10 short years and I h

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Ryan Ray
Not defeatist or jealousy or envy. I’m 34, I bought a 2500sqft house on a green belt in 2013 (25 Years old). Sold my company, and I live an extremely comfortable life for someone my age. No mortgage, a couple nice cars. I worked very hard, lots of long nights, lots of learning to get to where I’m

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Exactly what problems are young people facing? Almost every single one that wants to can enlist in the military. That will feed them and teach them a skill (and some manners, and how to work) and they will come out with the VA and GI Bill. Pell grants, student loans. If someone wants to be

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I just realized, civilization peaked with boomers. All downhill to Armageddon from here on out From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 6:25 PM To: Ryan Ray Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange Exactly what problems are

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2023-02-14 Thread Cameron Crum
Totally agree with you about online learning. There is practically nothing you can't learn with someone showing you exactly how to do it. In fact this weekend, I'm rebuilding an automatic transmission that went out in my son's truck. I bought a junkyard one to replace it and it died too, so I've wa

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Bill Prince
When I was a young Black child, I had to walk 10 miles to school through the snow, and it was uphill both ways. bp On 2/14/2023 5:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I just realized, civilization peaked with boomers.  All downhill to Armageddon from here on out *From:* Chuck McCown via A

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Ryan Ray
A lot of what is happening now can be attributed to housing imho. A house is your domain. The place you get things done. Your mind expands, you have more space to enjoy hobbies or learn something new. Personally, I don’t get that from an apartment when I have to worry about my neighbours and volum

Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange

2023-02-14 Thread Chuck Macenski
One way to say it: "The youth of today cannot live on $15 an hour so a lot of candidates will not even walk through the door because other places even in the field of welding pay higher to start." Another way to say it: "The youth of today will not invest in themselves." On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at