Chuck, As much as I hate to say this, this is a prime example of why America will not see the success it has in the past that you and many others may have seen. Our downfall will be within.
I have noticed this same behavior while searching to fill two positions here in Indiana. My starting wage is $20 hr. The more they want to sit at home, behind a keyboard and surfing social media, the lazier they get and the more they expect. Sadly, I am noticing this trend with older people as well. A fantasy land of high wages with no skills and no knowledge is starting to take over. I have also noticed a giant lack of skills, education (perhaps intelligence is a better word), and willingness to learn is just gone in many ways. Our education system is failing, our parenting is failing, drug use is out of control. Even some of the ideas and mentality has penetrated politics to the point you question the politicians age and maturity. No one wants to ‘struggle’, but the less struggle endured the weaker the nation becomes. You handled it just fine and I would have been an AHOLE with him. I would have told him about the best thing for our people like him is a 2-year deployment in a nasty war zone to teach him a thing or two about his entitled attitude. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Cameras - Fiber - Towers - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 12:37 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: [AFMUG] FB Exchange I advertised for hiring yesterday, a no experience necessary, get paid to learn MIG mild steel welding. PT/FT flexible hours. We hire 17 year olds. I immediately got crap from this guy saying that the “young people of today” cannot exist on less than $18/hour which is what he gets and he works from home. Lots of people defended my $15/entry level, get paid to learn welding position. He deleted his post then sent me this: Hello there, Our of respect for you because it wasn't my intent to cause tension, I've deleted my comment on your posting. My only point was to emphasize that the going rate for a lot of entry level jobs is much higher than $15 an hour. Welding is a great skill and can open up great avenues in the future. However, The youth of today cannot live on $15 an hour so a lot of candidates will not even walk through the door because other places even in the field of welding pay higher to start. What I emphasized at my company starting at $18 is just one example. We have people here that make well over $50 an hour because we operate on a commission structure. But that $18 base is livable when a one bedroom is $1000+ in tooele a month and depending on where you live it's as low as $1600+ Again, never meant to offend so I am sorry for causing you any trouble. I replied: So you expect someone to walk from High School directly into a job where they can have a nice home, car and things? Wow, without learning a trade, profession or other skill? Our $15/hour people take home $2000/month. Pretty sure someone can exist on that and the smart ones will have roommates or live with their parents. And the smarter ones will quickly be making more than $18/hour. We have exactly zero problems finding as many workers as we need. So your opinion that "youth of today" cannot exist on $15/hour is just that, unfounded opinion. I guess your definition of "exist" is different than mine. You can exist by walking, riding a bicycle or taking a bus to work. You can exist by eating home cooked meals and making a home made sandwich for your lunch. You can exist by wearing clothes from a thrift store. You don't need the latest iPhone and Netflix to exist. Read a book. The struggle IS the journey and is what creates grit and strong character. He replied and blocked me: Yeah Okay Boomer. I was reaching out to be nice but you clearly have no idea what life is like for us today. I just bought my first house at 31 because of how shit things are right now compared to when you were younger. But thanks for proving my point by being an asshole about "my definition of exist"
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