Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24

2020-09-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Strange. I have a friend that has somewhere around a 100 links and keeps deploying more of them. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave U

[AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Anyone ever figured out how to take a gpon on fiber and run it over microwave radios/ethernet and back to gpon?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yikes. Sounds like the old attempts to do DOCSIS over RF. > On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >  > Anyone ever figured out how to take a gpon on fiber and run it over microwave > radios/ethernet and back to gpon? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/19/20 8:49 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Yikes. Sounds like the old attempts to do DOCSIS over RF. Isn't coax cable already RF? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
I am wondering if I took a media converter with a bidi with the gpon up and down frequency and did another one at the other end, if the signal would come out unmolsted. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GP

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24

2020-09-19 Thread Mathew Howard
We must have a couple of dozen Mikrotik 60ghz links up now... I haven't seen any real problems with them. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 8:06 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Strange. I have a friend that has somewhere around a 100 links and keeps > deploying more of them. *shrugs* > > > > - > Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24

2020-09-19 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Mikrotik 60GHz PTP is great. PtMP is tricky. The chipset really isn’t designed for that, but we are doing it. The trick is to use a previous firmware, not the latest. I like the latest long term release for 60GHz PtMP. Otherwise there are lots of drops and disconnects; which oddly is what in the

[AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread TJ Trout
So I have a handful of ccr1072's that I want to run on our +48v plant, mikrotik sells a '-48v telecom' power supply and they insist it's not compatible with +48v. I ordered one for testing and both +/- input terminals have no reference to chassis ground. I went ahead and applied +48v and the power

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Is there anything in your system requiring +48 or can you just float your whole 48 volt system? From: TJ Trout Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik) So I have a handful of ccr1072's that I want to run on o

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Different situation, but I have several sites with 1100ahx4 powered with +48, even though Mikrotik says they take -48. I suspect you will find the same to be true on the CCR. Connect the – terminal to ground and the + terminal to +48, obviously you don’t want to apply reverse polarity by tr

[AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
So is every 14 year old googling "how to set up a VPN"? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
I don’t think I have ever seen a true +48 load. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:29 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik) Different situation, but I have several sites with 1100ahx4 powered with +48, even though Mikr

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread TJ Trout
I think some of my devices have the chassis ground bonded with the negative input terminals, I discovered this because I am running a telecom rectifier shelf designed for -48 on a +48 system because it's floating, but this causes the + output to not be fused, so I practiced arc welding once. Stran

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
No. Just the app download is banned. Not the use. > On Sep 19, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > So is every 14 year old googling “how to set up a VPN”? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread TJ Trout
It's just a simple 48 to 12v converter to feed the mikrotik. I tested with a ict +48 supply and the 12v comes out fine, I'm 99% sure it will work on the wood bench, and about 90% sure it will work in a rack. If it was true -48 I would assume the + terminal would be bonded with chassis ground? On

Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik)

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Yes. From: TJ Trout Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48 noob questions (mikrotik) It's just a simple 48 to 12v converter to feed the mikrotik. I tested with a ict +48 supply and the 12v comes out fine, I'm 99% sure it will wo

[AFMUG] -48

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Never forget the time when an irate customer (that you all know) called me fuming because my antenna shorted out his radio. It was my Optic series. Waveguide interface. Shorting out the radio. May have ruined a bazillion dollar radio. I was pretty sure I knew exactly what the problem was,

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I mean to download the app or get updates. My son (who hates TikTok, BTW) got an ad saying to download the app now before the ban. And wasn’t the crocodile in Peter Pan named TikTok? From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 2:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
I’m not sure that will work. Maybe. > On Sep 19, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > I mean to download the app or get updates. > > My son (who hates TikTok, BTW) got an ad saying to download the app now > before the ban. > > And wasn’t the crocodile in Peter Pan named TikTok? >

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t know why the Commerce Dept. wants to pit its technical prowess against 14 year olds. They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight. From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 3:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban I’m not

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/19/20 1:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t know why the Commerce Dept. wants to pit its technical prowess against 14 year olds.  They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight. More like a plastic knife. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
I don’t even really understand what the threat is. I downloaded tiktok to see what all the fuss was about. All I saw were folks in various states of disrobement dancing to music. What national security issue is this? > On Sep 19, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/19/20 1:38

Re: [AFMUG] -48

2020-09-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
He had one job On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:59 PM wrote: > Never forget the time when an irate customer (that you all know) called me > fuming because my antenna shorted out his radio. > > It was my Optic series. Waveguide interface. > Shorting out the radio. May have ruined a bazillion dollar

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Tick Tock the crocodile seems like a much bigger threat. Known hand (and clock) eater. But yeah, the app stores location data, and the Chinese government could get hold of it. Hold on there, that's OUR government's job. Good thing other social media apps like Facebook don't store location da

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Disrobement? Where? How do I tictoc? -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 2:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban I don’t even really understand what the threat is. I downloaded tiktok to see what all the fuss

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Banning WeChat is probably more consequential, it's used for real things, not just silly dance videos. And of course we can expect China to retaliate against US companies. This feels like Rockem Sockem Robots. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, Septem

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread chuck
Yeah, they be brewing up a new batch of nasty down in Wuhan... But they will probably build a vaccine for themselves first this time and make sure their whole population will be good. Welcome to WW3. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:01 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Disrobing obviously means something completely different than enrobing, which involves chocolate. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban Disrobement? Where

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or just stop building iPhones. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:07 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban Yeah, they be brewing up a new batch of nasty down in Wuhan... But they will probab

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
You don’t think they had a vaccine ready this time? One does not build a bio-weapon without a way to counter it for your own people. Why do you think they locked their own folks completely in their homes? Because they knew what the virus could do and needed to buy time while they got the saf

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/19/20 2:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I saw a review of Reels, the competitor to TikTok that Facebook/Instagram took 2 years to develop, on a tech site. The review basically said Reels sucked in comparison, and that TikTok was a well designed app, well targeted to what the user and creator co

Re: [AFMUG] TikTok ban

2020-09-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
Why was vine shut down? > On Sep 19, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/19/20 2:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> I saw a review of Reels, the competitor to TikTok that Facebook/Instagram >> took 2 years to develop, on a tech site. The review basically said Reels >> sucked in comparis

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24

2020-09-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Does it seem to work better in PTP mode with the previous firmware? I'm seeing drops/disconnects. On Saturday, September 19, 2020, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Mikrotik 60GHz PTP is great. > > > > PtMP is tricky. The chipset really isn’t designed for that, but we are > doing it. > > The trick is t