Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread justsumname .
Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware of many things. And therefore not prepared for much of anything. The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > My own utility bills won't be different. Kids are

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
The secret is Mexican aunts. They are the only ones who can make the best food. I dont know if there is some cultural tradition where when a girls sibling has a child she is given the secrets, but Mexican aunts know how to make the greatest stuff. It could be that it's a secret and none of the male

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be the better course for the country economically.  That might include my wife and children who have asthma, so no. On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
My dad was a food chemist. He would tell a story about Campbells buying V8 and when they took over the factory it didn’t taste the same despite using the same recipe. Finally in desperation they paid a former V8 employee as a consultant to come in and figure out what they were doing wrong. As

[AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Sure looks like a flattening to me. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Ahhh, yes, the rise of the master race! From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:05 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Oh, man... I would love it if it was true. I will tell you a true story. My father in law was an ag science major at USU. One of the dairy science classes had to do with the quality of milk. They did double blind taste testing. The best tasting milk had just a bit of cow shit in it. From

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
Umm, liars, damn liars and staticians?   How about instead it's the limit of testing supplies?  GIGO... On 4/10/20 6:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: image Sure looks like a flattening to me. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Sean Heskett
I sure hope so 🤞🏼 Good job team America!!! On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:20 AM wrote: > [image: image] > > Sure looks like a flattening to me. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/ma

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
In one fell swoop you fix social security (you don't) medicare (you don't) and the homeless problem ( you don't ) but there are plenty that would believe that if it came from on top... On 4/10/20 6:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ahhh, yes, the rise of the master race! *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
Tin foil hat on. The people this is lethal to are the most expensive members of society to maintain. Eliminating that cost and resource drain makes a nation super efficient. Especially if you simply let them die. If a nation like china were preparing for conflict, that would be an ideal prior act.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
California counties are pussed at the go ernor because he wont give them 1k of their 8k extra vents and gave 500 of the national stockpile vents back to the stockpile for new york. I think there are a whole lot more metro areas priming to come on board. But weather is getting better so people wil

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I seem to recall some experiment involving marshmallows that demonstrates most people are bad at delayed gratification. Now we are asking people to take difficult actions when the punishment or reward comes a month down the road. And maybe hurts or benefits everyone not just yourself. It will be

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
40% is a pretty average survival rate for intubated patients. Great for Covid 19 from what I've read. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > On today’s Pence/Birx/Fauci show I heard someone say how wonderful it was > that New Orleans was reporting 40% of intubation patients coming o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
Yup. Crisco is almost fully hydrogenated vegetable oil(s). The process of hydrogenating is what makes it thick. This is as opposed to "partially hydrogenated" oils, which create trans fats. Trans fats have been fingered as the bad guys in the cholesterol world.

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
yep, intubation is last resort. and of those 40% many will still die from post intubation pnemonia and infection unrelated to the COVID. Even experienced respiratory techs do a ton of laryngeal/tracheal damage upon insertion under good conditions. Rapid Sequence Intubation is high pressure many tim

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
heh...fingered On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:39 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Yup. Crisco is almost fully hydrogenated vegetable oil(s). The process of > hydrogenating is what makes it thick. This is as opposed to "partially > hydrogenated" oils, which create trans fats. Trans fats have been fingered > a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Well in Utah, we don’t have any limits to testing supplies. We have alternate... sources for things like that. So everyone that is even suspect gets tested. 100% of dead folks are tested. And our curve matches this one. From: Robert Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 8:44 AM To: af@af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
It sounds like a painful nightmare getting intubated. Tracheotomy for me please. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go yep, intubation is last resort. and of those 40% many will still die from post

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
We were trained on no scope digital intubations which is one step less barbaric than blind intubation. You are pretty much assured you'll be on an extended vent if that happens. Tons of tissue damage. It's always detrimental to go in through any out hole On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 10:59 AM wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
The CPAP/BIPAP with viral filtering is what changed a lot of outcomes in Italy...   Without viral filtering contaminated a lot of wards before they understood that they were aerisolizing(sp?) the virus On 4/10/20 8:51 AM, Steve Jones wrote: yep, intubation is last resort. and of those 40% many

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
Um, how about explaining the "alternate"? On 4/10/20 8:55 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Well in Utah, we don’t have any limits to testing supplies.  We have alternate... sources for things like that.  So everyone that is even suspect gets tested.  100% of dead folks are tested.  And our curve

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd heard 20% survival for Covid19 if you end up intubated.  So yeah 40% is a victory. On 4/10/2020 11:26 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: 40% is a pretty average survival rate for intubated patients.  Great for Covid 19 from what I've read. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
BIPAP actually sounds better, I wonder if they aren’t using it because the aerosolizing puts healthcare workers at more risk and maybe a lack of negative pressure rooms. I also fear that with relatives locked out, healthcare directives are being ignored and people are being intubated who spe

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
A fun theory, but they don't have a significant naval force with which to cross the ocean.  They do have a lot of container ships Since we're wearing our tinfoil hats: "Hey U.S. these 100 container ships are just the backlog of shipping from the pandemic.  Definitely not a million troops hidde

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
We have large NGOs in Utah with DEP pockets. From: Robert Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:51 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth Um, how about explaining the "alternate"? On 4/10/20 8:55 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Well in Utah, we don’t have any limits to testing su

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am staying out of this...it's Good Friday and I am trying, really trying to just share good thoughts...btw, Lent in the Catholic calendar was over yesterday...peace On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 9:56 AM wrote: > Well in Utah, we don’t have any limits to testing supplies. We have > alternate... so

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Interesting, I always thought Lent ended on Easter. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth I am staying out of this...it's Good Friday and I am trying, really trying to just share good thoughts...btw, Lent i

[AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I guess there is precedent. 1905 https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/197/11-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
Container ships last I heard are staging on the coast for14 day quarantine, if that's true, which it may not be, you can move a whole lot of military gear and troops in those things. And there's a good probability those troops have antibodies On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:03 PM Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
I thought we agreed that lent was year round, but are semi lenting right now with jaime refereeing, anything gets out of hand and jaime posts a tecate and food pic. Distracts us and gets us back to semilent On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:18 PM wrote: > Interesting, I always thought Lent ended on Easte

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Lent is year around on this list... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth I thought we agreed that lent was year round, but are semi lenting right now with jaime refereeing, anything gets out of hand and jaim

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
Very interesting. bp On 4/10/2020 10:24 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Bill, this is what is inside your water well sounding device.  Just a speaker. And the acoustic waveform it sends looks like this. Along with the w

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
I remember standing in line to take my polio sugar cube when I was in grade school. I don't know who mandated it (it was a rural grade school in central Illinois), but AFAIK everyone ate the cube. bp On 4/10/2020 10:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrot

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Last evening and now we are in Triduum...Good Friday is only day Mass is Not celebrated by Catholics and Episcopalians. Peace On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 11:18 AM wrote: > Interesting, I always thought Lent ended on Easter. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 11:14 AM > *To:* An

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
You ever think about trying something like this? It does a cool air blast but the sound seems like something toward what you're looking for at a smaller scale https://www.amazon.com/Squirrel-Products-2990-Airzooka-Black/dp/B6IJIC On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:06 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Very intere

[AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Robert Andrews
Numbers guys can get fooled like the rest of us, but can be more detached too https://medium.com/@ali_razavian/covid-19-from-a-data-scientists-perspective-95bd4e84843b -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I had the nasty liquid. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations I remember standing in line to take my polio sugar cube when I was in grade school. I don't know who mandated it (it was a rural grade school in ce

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Those are fun. I used to carry them in my RadioShack store. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending You ever think about trying something like this? It does a cool air blast but the sound seems like som

Re: [AFMUG] OT One month to go

2020-04-10 Thread Josh Luthman
20 or 40% survival if you're intubated. This is not for people with the virus, this is for people with the virus who are greatly affected. Remember, some people are not showing symptoms. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 1

Re: [AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
That's a very encouraging article actually. On 4/10/2020 2:43 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Numbers guys can get fooled like the rest of us, but can be more detached too https://medium.com/@ali_razavian/covid-19-from-a-data-scientists-perspective-95bd4e84843b -- AF mailing list AF@af.a

Re: [AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
Except that it appears the numbers in his graph are way off. The scale on the right showing deaths per 1 mil pop can't be right. Italy and spain are already around 300 per mil pop. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 1:44 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > Numbers guys can get fooled like the rest of us, but can

Re: [AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
I trust Nate Silver more. He is very honest about the huge holes in the data set. This guy is piling speculation on top of speculation, and making assumptions about the missing data. Time will tell however. bp On 4/10/2020 11:43 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Numbers guys can get fooled like the

Re: [AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I am misreading that. Is it deaths per day/mil pop. Yesterday ~11 per mil pop died in Spain. Numbers check out. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 2:19 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > That's a very encouraging article actually. > > > On 4/10/2020 2:43 PM, Robert And

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am installing something similar tomorrow in a water tank for Tornillo water company. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 11:25 AM wrote: > Bill, this is what is inside your water well sounding device. Just a > speaker. > And the acoustic waveform it sends looks like this. > Along with the waveform I create

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
When they say Louis Rich turkey slices are made from a 100% turkey...it's true...they use 100% of the turkey except the feathers. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 9:53 AM Steve Jones wrote: > heh...fingered > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:39 AM Bill Prince wrote: > >> Yup. Crisco is almost fully hydrogenat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
My wife said that if really want great Mexican style refried beans to use little bit of lard instead of processed oil...she is making flat enchiladas in a bit. I will share some pics. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 2:28 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > When they say Louis Rich turkey slices are made from a 100%

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, technically, yes, lent is over, but since today and tomorrow are still penitential days, it effectively doesn't end until Easter (and you do have to count until Sunday to get a full 40 days). On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:12 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Last evening and now we are in Triduum...Good

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I gave up yard work for Lent. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth Well, technically, yes, lent is over, but since today and tomorrow are still penitential days, it effectively doesn't end until Easter (and

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Is this at the base of the tank? Reading pressure? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending Stuff I am installing tomorrow On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:29 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: I am installing somethin

[AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lightly fried tortillas, red Chile sauce, white muenster cheese, white onion... Bubbly and a jalapeno Provecho -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
That is just cruel at this time of day... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas Lightly fried tortillas, red Chile sauce, white muenster cheese, white onion... Bubbly and a jalapeno Provecho --

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Top On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 3:08 PM wrote: > Is this at the base of the tank? Reading pressure? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 2:50 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending > > Stuff I am installing tomorrow > > On Fri, Apr

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Will post tomorrow's work On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 11:25 AM wrote: > Bill, this is what is inside your water well sounding device. Just a > speaker. > And the acoustic waveform it sends looks like this. > Along with the waveform I created last week and launched with a much > larger > speaker. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bean & Cheese Burrito Filling?

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
No turkey teeth or claws either. bp On 4/10/2020 1:28 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: When they say Louis Rich turkey slices are made from a 100% turkey...it's true...they use 100% of the turkey except the feathers.  

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
If you buy one, like to borrow it for a week or so... From: Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:41 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? Time has come for us to get a little more accuracy on our sector antennas. Any input on the

Re: [AFMUG] OT...new toy

2020-04-10 Thread can...@believewireless.net
My wireless ones work pretty well but need to be power cycled pretty often. I have some that work over Cat6 that work great. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:20 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Not sure i can do that but of course I have haven't read the instructions > yet.. that's kind of low brow..oh well >

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
After the boss gave the funding OK the two things I really looked for after reading and asking for reviews was speed of the result while hands free and likelihood of sending it with a tech and it coming back in one piece. The guy that lent me his brought it over, we set and ap up on our tower leg

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I might have to use a screwdriver to tweak its internals a bit... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? After the boss gave the funding OK the two things I really looked for after reading

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
youll definitely need to sign the paper On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:23 PM wrote: > I might have to use a screwdriver to tweak its internals a bit... > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 3:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alig

Re: [AFMUG] OT...new toy

2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Worked through window to porch area but when my wife came out to water her plants and was right in front of receiver ...video broke up a bit ..more testing tomorrow...going to read manual. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 3:43 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > My wireless on

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
As long as you are ok with a couple of those stickers covering screw heads getting a bit messed up... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? youll definitely need to sign the paper On Fri

[AFMUG] This list

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Quite a few people have joined this list lately. Not sure why the uptick. So I figured I would explain something. 4 years ago, we just about melted down over politics. We agreed to suspend all political comments, commentary and argument during Lent. Then we decided to extend Lent indefinite

Re: [AFMUG] IF this guy has it right, you might have your head explode, I just did..

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
Yes, and sad at the same time... On 4/10/20 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: That's a very encouraging article actually. On 4/10/2020 2:43 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Numbers guys can get fooled like the rest of us, but can be more detached too https://medium.com/@ali_razavian/covid-19-from

Re: [AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
We are doing burgers over briquets for the first time in about 5 years since getting our Traeger grill, really looking forward to some char again... On 4/10/20 2:11 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That is just cruel at this time of day... *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 3:07 PM

Re: [AFMUG] This list

2020-04-10 Thread Robert
I wish we could extend AFMUG Lent to the world...   At least one day a week, even one day a month would make my world happier... On 4/10/20 4:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Quite a few people have joined this list lately.  Not sure why the uptick.  So I figured I would explain something. 4 years

Re: [AFMUG] This list

2020-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
Wow, it was 4 years ago. Time flies when you're having fun On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 6:56 PM Robert wrote: > I wish we could extend AFMUG Lent to the world... At least one day a > week, even one day a month would make my world happier... > > On 4/10/20 4:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Quite a f

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2020-04-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
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