The CPAP/BIPAP with viral filtering is what changed a lot of outcomes in Italy...   Without viral filtering contaminated a lot of wards before they understood that they were aerisolizing(sp?) the virus

On 4/10/20 8:51 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
yep, intubation is last resort. and of those 40% many will still die from post intubation pnemonia and infection unrelated to the COVID. Even experienced respiratory techs do a ton of laryngeal/tracheal damage upon insertion under good conditions. Rapid Sequence Intubation is high pressure many times under less than ideal conditions (ie coding). Skimmed an article that theyre beginning to thing that RSI is doing more harm than good and looking toward postitive pressure treatments akin to CPAP/BIPAP

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:27 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:

    40% is a pretty average survival rate for intubated patients. 
    Great for Covid 19 from what I've read.

    On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:16 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        On today’s Pence/Birx/Fauci show I heard someone say how
        wonderful it was that New Orleans was reporting 40% of
        intubation patients coming off the ventilators rather than
        croaking.

        That’s pretty scary when a 40% survival rate is great news.


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