[AFMUG] 4 Sale

ePMP Need Repair (mostly Eth/Power) * ePMP 2000 / QTY 18 * ePMP 1000 AP / QTY 21 * ePMP 1000 SM / QTY 58 * cnPilot R200P / QTY 42 * cnPilot R201P / QTY 19 * ePMP 200 / QTY 19 Working: * ePMP 200 (used) / QTY 42 * ePMP 200 (New) / QTY 15 PMP450 Need Repair *

Re: [AFMUG] OT: About Puerto Rico (for Gino)

Well, it captures somewhat the sentiment around here.. specially after the weak response and support from the motherland on Hurricane Maria and the recent quakes… The economic info at the end is kinda skewed tho.. “half truths” But yea, we are second class citizens no doubt.. Gino Villarini F

Re: [AFMUG] 4 Sale

That is a lot of bad gear :( On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 7:23 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > > *ePMP* > > > > Need Repair (mostly Eth/Power) > >- ePMP 2000 / QTY 18 >- ePMP 1000 AP / QTY 21 >- ePMP 1000 SM / QTY 58 >- cnPilot R200P / QTY 42 >- cnPilot R201P / QTY 19 >- ePM

Re: [AFMUG] 4 Sale

Not bad. Needs repair. Reminds me of people. But yeah, who would bother trying to repair something like a hAP ac Lite. It’s like a goldfish. Flush it. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 8:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

Using 450i or 450b on the SM (client) side, a real world aggregate speed test can be as high as 250 Mbps. If you have cnMeudsa (450m AP) for the sector, you can achieve >750 Mbps (theoretically up to 1 Gbps, but I would be lying to tell you I have ever seen this kind of efficiency in the real wo

Re: [AFMUG] 4 Sale

I wouldn't use such repaired equipment for revenue-generating purposes that need reliability, but the amateur radio wide-area 2.3Ghz / 5.9Ghz WAN project that I'm involved in is mostly all donated / repaired gear, and I've gotten good at estimating longevity. If I'm already going through batch rep

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

The other important question is if we can count on getting a contiguous 40mhz channel from the SAS, much less two of them to run a full cluster of 450m in ABAB. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 8:59 AM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > Using 450i or 450b on the SM (client) side, a real world aggregate spee

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

+1 TY WISPA :) On 2/20/20 6:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Correct - the CMA bidding portion was rejected based on WISPA advocacy. Mark On Feb 20, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/20/20 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: What is "Proposed CMA Bidding"? Cellular market area, it woul

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

The answer is a bit complicated, for example I suspect the SAS could give you a grant, but not at the full xmt power a 450m is capable of, so your range and modulation is reduced. Probably nobody knows the answer. A few WISPs who participated in ICD might have some idea. But if you are ask

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Voip Innovations Support

We’re in the same boat. Have the connection to VI but don’t really do much with them. Too many issues routing to rural areas (part of that national rural call termination issue) a few years back. They weren’t terribly interested in fixing it so we weren’t interested in routing traffic to them

[AFMUG] Issues with Madden Mobile?

Hey all, We've gotten complaints about EA's Madden Mobile not working on our network. Sure enough when I try it from any of our IPs, I get a vague "Unknown Error." Of course, it works from any other (albeit large) ISP I try it from. Our IPs appear clean and geo'd correctly from every source I can f

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with Madden Mobile?

i would join the NANOG list and post there as well. often times you can get directly in touch with the engineers at large companies thru the list or thru contacts on the list. na...@nanog.org -sean On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:58 AM Dan Spitler wrote: > Hey all, > We've gotten complaints about

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we are eligible for On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM dave wrote: > +1 TY WISPA :) > > > On 2/20/20 6:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Correct - the CMA bidding portion was rejected based on WISPA advocacy. > > Mark > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with Madden Mobile?

Heh, I did and got no response On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:12 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > i would join the NANOG list and post there as well. often times you can > get directly in touch with the engineers at large companies thru the list > or thru contacts on the list. > > na...@nanog.org > > -sean

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with Madden Mobile?

I see that on Jan 22nd you asked for an EA noc admin. Perhaps posting with more info like you have on the animal farm list will get a better response. If they don’t know what you need/want they may just ignore your request since it was so vague. -Sean On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:15 AM Dan Spitl

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with Madden Mobile?

Good point. I was just doing what I've seen before: people just asking for NOC with no context. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:25 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > I see that on Jan 22nd you asked for an EA noc admin. Perhaps posting > with more info like you have on the animal farm list will get a better >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

people worry about the contiguous block issue too much. The longest you would go with a non contiguous grant is a day. When the sas get jiggy with each other at night the channels will be redistributed in contiguous blocks. Getting 4 channels for a 40mhz will happen for a period, but man is that a

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

How does a bidding credit work? What percent does is save? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we > are eligible for > >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM d

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

There's also advantage to coexistence groups, though as I understand it, that's a SAS value add and not a requirement. As I understand it, a group of operators could form a co-existence group to ignore each other when determining availability. This would be used when a group of operators agre

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

On 2/21/20 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote: look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we are eligible for Which are applied to a winning bid, you still have to wire the FCC the full amount at the beginning to participate. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http:/

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

On 2/21/20 10:33 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: How does a bidding credit work? What percent does is save? It's applied to a winning bid (not upfront) so during the bidding process your $1 is the same as AT&T's $1. The rules for auction 105 aren't out yet but it should be like before there with a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

Is it possible to sync Cambium with LTE gear? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:36 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > There's also advantage to coexistence groups, though as I understand it, > that's a SAS value add and not a requirement. > > As I understand it, a group of operators could form a co-existence gro

[AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

I need to get a security certificate for a web page. This is going to be for a single page for new customers to enter payment information. Not sure what I need. I've seen prices all over the place. This will be a CGI generated page. It will not be a www page. Will be something like https:/

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Hi Mark, Use Let’s Encrypt. https://letsencrypt.org . Certificates are free and widely accepted. Lots of scripts available that automate renewals (certificates are good for 90 days, so should be renewed every 75 days or so). David Sovereen Mercury Network Corporat

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

Yes sir. We do it with others running 3.65 Huawei LTE. Works great. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:11 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Is it possible to sync Cambium with LTE gear? > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:36 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> There's also advantage to co

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Mark, Look at letsencrypt.org. They have free certs for personal and minor use. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri February 21 2020 13:24, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I need to get a security certificate for a web page. This is going to > be for a single page for new customer

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Get a wildcard from letsencrypt for free or use its cli tools to have your script generate a cert for each page on the fly. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:25 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > I need to get a security certificate for a web page. This is going to > be for a single page for new

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets who would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a bank, assuming their bank knows what spectrum is at all. So their option would be to hope no one bids? > On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Seth Matt

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

On 2/21/20 11:28 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Mark, Look at letsencrypt.org. They have free certs for personal and minor use. Anyone can use Let's Encrypt for anything. Personal, commercial, for profit, not for profit, whatever you imagine. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

I still think its going to venture capitalists looking for long term recoveries On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:30 PM Dev wrote: > Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets > who would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a > bank, assuming t

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

the hit is on the 450 not the LTE though to sync? what kind of a performance hit is it? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:29 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > Yes sir. We do it with others running 3.65 Huawei LTE. Works great. > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:11 AM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> w

[AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE SYNC Looking to standardize. This is the only one that will provide sync to epmp 3k? it will also do 450i? Will it do epmp 1k/2k at all? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

I don't have experience with letsencrypt but a webserver software mailing list I'm on has constant traffic about problems with certs not renewing. It may be specific to that software, but my gut tells me if this is something mission critical and you don't want to monitor it for problems, just pay

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

I spend more time baby sitting real SSL certs (every two years at renewal) than Let's Encrypt... and I have more Let's Encrypt. If there's a clear, reliable way of doing Let's Encrypt... do it. If not, use a paid cert until someone else gets the bruises getting Let's Encrypt to work solidly

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

By performance hit are you referring to the frame period? Which is a tradeoff between throughput and latency, so which are you worried about most? Or did I misunderstand the issue. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

Wouldn’t it be nice if all these billionaires and big companies launching fleets of LEO satellites would buy up some of these licenses and then sublease or disaggregate them or whatever the term is? It wouldn’t work to buy them and let the spectrum stay GAA (like buying doves to set them fre

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

i worry about both equally On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:10 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > By performance hit are you referring to the frame period? Which is a > tradeoff between throughput and latency, so which are you worried about > most? > > > > Or did I misunderstand the issue. > > > > *From:* AF *On

[AFMUG] 450 vs LTE NLoS

Has anyone done any comparison as to how the 450 compares to LTE with regards to usable signal in a NLoS situation? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Is Cambium sync cmm4? Epmp has an option for cmm3 vs cmm4. 450i and epmp3000 would certainly be Cambium style. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: > POWERINJECTOR PLUS CAMBIUM-STYLE

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

That’s like saying I love all my wives equally. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance i worry about both equally On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:10 P

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

“Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium sync” also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known to a select few. It doesn’t create inductive spikes that can cause Ethernet errors in adjacent cables so I’d use it instead of Canopy sync wherever yo

Re: [AFMUG] 450 vs LTE NLoS

I am planning to avoid any nlos installs after what happened with 3.65 WiMAX, which worked great for us right until there was the slightest hint of noise, at which point it all fell apart. I predict nlos on CBRS GAA to also become a crap shoot once everyone starts deploying their gear. Even the P

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Warning about long-term paid certs: Apple is going to start rejecting certs with expiration dates longer than 13 months: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/20/apple_shorter_cert_lifetime/ On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I spend more time baby sitting real SSL certs (eve

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Mother... Fucker... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dan Spitler" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:52:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

I hate apple apple sucks garbage What is the catch with letsencrypt? Nothing is free On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:53 PM Dan Spitler wrote: > Warning about long-term paid certs: Apple is going to start rejecting > certs with expiration dates longer than 13 months: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/20

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

No catch anymore. Initially, its downfall was that the CA wasn't universally supported. It basically is now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Always a catch. Theres got to be some underlying scam On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:00 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > No catch anymore. Initially, its downfall was that the CA wasn't > universally supported. It basically is now. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

It really is free, no real downside. It is fully automated system, you can get/renew a cert in sec. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 4:05 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Always a catch. Theres got to be some underlying scam > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:00 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> No catch anymore. Initially

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

It's the Liberians... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:03:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

The TV show with Noah Wyle and Rebecca Romijn? That was cancelled. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions It's the Liberians... - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Gigabit Ethernet is much more stable with Cambium Sync. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > “Canopy sync” is the once per second interruption of power. “Cambium sync” > also goes over power but uses some magical method that is only known to a > select few. It doesn’t create

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Im hoping to find out we can just stock these and not have to have the canopy sync ones for the 1k/2k On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:25 PM Matt wrote: > Gigabit Ethernet is much more stable with Cambium Sync. > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > “Canopy sync” is the once per

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Why would you need Canopy sync for 1000 and 2000? Just be sure to set the software settings appropriately. Or use the built in GPS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Im hoping to

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

and I do. bp On 2/21/2020 12:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That’s like saying I love all my wives equally.   From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, Febr

Re: [AFMUG] STL issues-

Nice tripod. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 4:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] STL issues- The engineer for station turned off STL RX side and we connected SA to analyzer. We picked up at signal at 950.6MHz hitting their an

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

AlphaSSL has cheap 1 and 2 year certs. Even their wildcard if cheap (if you wanted to use it on more than one host with the same domain). Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450m in 3.5Ghz max STA performance

In our case our upload was being impacted in a very real way. 1x - 2x where we should have had 6x - 8x connections. Once we synced up everything went back to normal. I didn't notice any throughput issues by syncing. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:37 PM Bill Prince wrote: > and I do. > > bp > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

On 2/21/20 12:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don't have experience with letsencrypt but a webserver software mailing list I'm on has constant traffic about problems with certs not renewing. It may be specific to that software, but my gut tells me if this is something mission critical and you don't w

Re: [AFMUG] STL issues-

Yep. Didn't use it On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 3:47 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Nice tripod. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2020 4:37 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* [AFMUG] STL issues- > > > > The engineer for station turned o

Re: [AFMUG] STL issues-

Tx side I meant On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 3:37 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > The engineer for station turned off STL RX side and we connected SA to > analyzer. We picked up at signal at 950.6MHz hitting their antenna. The > Mosely had one error since he reset counter yesterday. He knows another > sta

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

This is our current card recommendations: For those radios which need Cambium Sync, (48V CMM5 style), you must have the Cambium sync cards. This is fine for 450i, 450m, epmp3000 and PTP550. I don't think I missed any others. This card does *not* have jumpers because of some of the side effec

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > This can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmu

Re: [AFMUG] New stuff

Never heard of anything in those bands? Who can use that spectrum and for what purpose? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:13 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Check these out...Janteq running at 1.830Ghz and Cambium at 7GHz... > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.

Re: [AFMUG] New stuff

The 1.830GHz is a Federal band and the building they are in used to belong to FBI. Everything outdoors is fiber inside sturdy conduit. On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:16 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Never heard of anything in those bands? > > Who can use that spectrum and for what purpose? > > On Fri, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

We can also get them in any color we want, as long as its black On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Did you mean thus: “ can be powered by either +48VDC or +48VDC.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.co

Re: [AFMUG] forrest- cambium style sync

Im putting out my last canopy sync, on what should be my last 2000 ap. But i need spares and as much as its dumb, as we cycle the 2000s to 3000s, thpse will likely be redeployed. We have to put in our order. So to be clear, i can NOT use the cambium sync on a 2000, which uses canopy sync. Is this c