[AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/474692-fbi-busts-illegal-streaming-site-with-more-content-than-netflix-amazon -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

Has anyone "sold" customers to AT&T? They're providing wireless service on top of a portion of my network, and the local municipality isn't cooperating with installing any towers. I can't really extend in to the area, or rebuild with new equipment for better service. I don't just want to turn th

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router

Right, but you can get nearly the same functionality from so many other sources that aren't vendor locked and nickle-and-dime you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To:

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

I don't think there is any way to do that other than to become a reseller or find someone who is and sell them to them. On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 8:54 AM Tim Cailloux wrote: > Has anyone "sold" customers to AT&T? They're providing wireless service > on top of a portion of my network, and the loca

Re: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

Never heard of ‘em. Did they really think they were never gonna get busted... From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 7:21 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix https://thehill.com/policy/technology/47

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

I don’t think the local municipality can block you from installing towers. Especially if you call it 5G service. From: Tim Cailloux Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 7:53 AM To: Animal Farm Mailing List Subject: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers Has anyone "sold" customers to AT&T?

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

You could maybe transfer them to another WISP but I don’t see how you “sell” them to AT&T. If you really can’t be remotely competitive with AT&T’s offering, the best thing you can do is give sufficient advance notice to allow the customers to switch gracefully. What keeps you from rebuildin

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

Unless you become a commissioned sales agent for AT&T. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 8:52 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers You could maybe transfer them to another WISP but I don’t see how you “sell” them to AT

Re: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

BayStream is starting up now. PirateBay has been around since 2003. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:48 AM wrote: > Never heard of ‘em. Did they really think they were never gonna get > busted... > > *Fr

Re: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

A major difference here, is that it sounds like these guys were charging money... On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:02 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > BayStream is starting up now. PirateBay has been around since 2003. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 133

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

On 12/19/19 6:53 AM, Tim Cailloux wrote: I don't just want to turn these customers off if there's some value to flipping them to AT&T. You can become an AT&T reseller/agent. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

Or if this is their 5G fixed wireless product, maybe they are contracting out installation, but that sounds like one-time revenue with no residuals. I haven’t really seen any big carrier fixed wireless product succeed without indoor modems. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Something new..

We are going to standardize on them now. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:11 PM wrote: > Nice, I keep forgetting those terminal blocks exist. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2019 4:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Something new.. > > Zoom in

[AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/fttx/outdoor/cs150u48v3/ I tripped over this guy the other day.  They're $650-700 retail and frankly, that's really not a bad price for a one-and-done 48V outdoor power system. but 150W is pretty small.  I wish there was a 300W or 600W option. 

Re: [AFMUG] Something new..

part #? On 12/19/2019 12:26 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We are going to standardize on them now. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:11 PM > wrote: Nice, I keep forgetting those terminal blocks exist. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2019 4:33 PM

Re: [AFMUG] clutter data and drones

Nice, I was curious if any Common people would be on here. Welcome to the farm, where pigs fly. Best Regards, Chuck Hogg | *SVP/Director of Acquisitions* *ALL POINTS* *BROADBAND *| *Live Connected.* mobile 502.435.6649 On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 6:11 PM Dan Spitler wrote: > Just to chime in

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

talk to matt at CTI On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/fttx/outdoor/cs150u48v3/ > > I tripped over this guy the other day. They're $650-700 retail and > frankly, that's really not a bad price for a one-and-done 48V outdoor > power sy

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

Is there a particular item I should ask him about? On 12/19/2019 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: talk to matt at CTI On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adam Moffett > wrote: https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/fttx/outdoor/cs150u48v3/ I tripped over this g

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

hes building out UPS in a box On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Is there a particular item I should ask him about? > On 12/19/2019 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > talk to matt at CTI > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> https://www.cyberpowersystems.

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

You are looking at 48VDC output, or AC with a 48V battery string? Note that unit seems to have around 700 watt hours of batteries, not bad, but if you are running 300W or 600W of loads, it’s not going to give you much runtime without adding more batteries. We have a couple Alpha Micro350

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

I could live with either AC or 48V, but 48V would be convenient. I'm looking at the Ubiquiti EdgePoint EP-S16.  It takes a 54V DC input, has SFP+ uplink ports and twelve 802.3af/at ports.  I don't actually expect to use every port, but in theory you could  load that up to over 300W, and if I m

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

I hope that Edgepoint doesn’t fry if the input is 1 or 2 volts above 54 VDC. If it sees the unregulated battery string voltage, normally you want an upper limit of 56 volts. 60 would be even better. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 2:25 PM To: af@af

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

Good point, I'll have to confirm that with them. On 12/19/2019 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I hope that Edgepoint doesn’t fry if the input is 1 or 2 volts above 54 VDC. If it sees the unregulated battery string voltage, normally you want an upper limit of 56 volts.  60 would be even better.

Re: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

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[AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

For those of you picking up services at an IX, why method are you using to get commodity internet since your transport circuit can only cross connect to one location? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Not totally sure I understand the question. My transport fiber ends in a dwdm passive mux. The data center will cross connect me to anyone there including the IX. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:43 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IX a

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

On 12/19/19 4:43 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: For those of you picking up services at an IX, why method are you using to get commodity internet since your transport circuit can only cross connect to one location? Colo a switch for multiple cross connects. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http:/

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Do you have multiple frequencies on your transport fiber then? And you use on for IX and one for commodity internet? > On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:54 PM, wrote: > > Not totally sure I understand the question. My transport fiber ends in a > dwdm passive mux. The data center will cross connect me

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

How do you do that cost effectively though? $1,300 for a half rack minimum! > On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 12/19/19 4:43 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> For those of you picking up services at an IX, why method are you using to >> get commodity internet since your transp

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Hurricane can trunk transit and ix if you go to Fremont. Otherwise find someone who has a full cabinet that Leases by the rack unit and they should be able to lease you switch ports on a monthly basis On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 2:58 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > How do you do that cost effectively though?

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

It wouldn't be multiple frequencies it would be multiple vlans unless you had dark fiber which is pretty unlikely then you could use a mux and use different colored optics but that wouldn't be a very good solution for this issue On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 2:58 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > Do you have mult

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Yes, we can plug in many 10G sfps for whatever we need. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet Do you have multiple frequencies on your transport fiber then? And

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

I think we pay less than half that. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet How do you do that cost effectively though? $1,300 for a half rack minimum! On Dec 1

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

Whatever you do don't use lead acid lithium batteries of varying chemistry's are available second-hand extremely lightly-used for the exact same price per watt hour and they will last long enough to put them in your will On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 10:50 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Good point, I'll have

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

A question I would have for the group is if you are picking up Transit from someone like hurricane electric do the benefits of paying for an ix port really do anything for you when hurricane is cured with everybody on the exchange anyway and you're paired with hurricane? I'm guessing the only advan

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Peered* On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 3:08 PM TJ Trout wrote: > A question I would have for the group is if you are picking up Transit > from someone like hurricane electric do the benefits of paying for an ix > port really do anything for you when hurricane is cured with everybody on > the exchange

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Colo a switch or router there using someone's extra space. In Minneapolis, I found a small business with two full racks and he leases out 1ru for our Mikrotik for $100 per month and hosts a remote extension switch for MICE IX for free. So I just pay him for that and cross connects. On Thu, Dec 19,

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

An astonishingly good idea! From: Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 6:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet Colo a switch or router there using someone's extra space. In Minneapolis, I found a small business with two full racks a

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Well this is exactly what I’m trying to figure out myself. Every days EXCHANGE EXCHANGE!!! But if your provider is already in the exchange.. > On Dec 19, 2019, at 8:08 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > > A question I would have for the group is if you are picking up Transit from > someone like hurric

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Matt, We were able to get 2U of space in a shared rack at our colo. Got it from the people that own the colo. I also get 2gb of "blended" internet from them. Got an IBM 8124 off ebay for a few bucks. Now I have 24 x 10GB slots I can use up there. Only using 4 of them, but have room t

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

And you’re comfortable with that? I don’t know how I feel about renting “empty space”. > On Dec 19, 2019, at 8:13 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies > wrote: > > Matt, > > We were able to get 2U of space in a shared rack at our colo. Got it > from the people that own the colo. I also

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

Well you rent it from the data center or you sublease it from someone that is renting from the data center. Not sure I see the difference. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 6:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IX and Co

Re: [AFMUG] IX and Commodity Internet

I am going to use two DIA 10Gbps circuits for this. Both connect to the IX, I need two physical connections and more than one 10Gbps feed for redundancy and traffic usage. I use over 5Gbps now, and I don't really trust one of my transits to go the full 10Gbps full time (thought that's what I'm

Re: [AFMUG] FBI busts two illegal streaming sites bigger than Netflix

Yeah, that seems pretty crazy, like stabbing somebody in a police station. Did they think they wouldn't get nabbed? On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 4:50 PM Layne Sisk wrote: > And based in Las Vegas, most of the other ones are at least off shore. > > > > Layne Sisk > > ServerPlus > > 801.426.8283, ext 102

Re: [AFMUG] "Selling Off" Existing Customers

If you're an ATT reseller installer does that mean we have to splice cat5 too? On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 10:25 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Or if this is their 5G fixed wireless product, maybe they are contracting > out installation, but that sounds like one-time revenue with no residuals. > > > > I haven

Re: [AFMUG] Something new..

Sorry ...was super busy .. https://www.digikey.com/short/p1dv78 On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 11:37 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > part #? > On 12/19/2019 12:26 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > We are going to standardize on them now. > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:11 PM wrote: > >> Nice, I keep forgetting those te

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Audience mesh router

Well, it turns out to be difficult doing a comparison of WiFi performance. I’ve been trying to compare the Mikrotik Audience as a standalone router, vs my Technicolor CGA4324 cable modem. The cable modem is in the basement, and I put the Audience right next to it. My house is kind of compli