Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock

2020-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported/ar-BB122vvc From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock He also said he can

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2020-04-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh
He also said he can consistently get 260% return on the stock market. Wonder how that’s working out. Mark > On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > matt said the world would be dead by now > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:44 PM Matt Hoppes >

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2020-04-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
I mean.. it's close... wait and see :P On 3/31/20 7:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote: matt said the world would be dead by now On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:44 PM Matt Hoppes > wrote: Bahahaha. On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:30 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> mail

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2020-03-31 Thread Steve Jones
matt said the world would be dead by now On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:44 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Bahahaha. > > On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:30 PM, wrote: > > And Matt was right all along... > > > On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> >> There have been two fatal

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2020-03-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
Bahahaha. > On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:30 PM, wrote: > > And Matt was right all along... > > >>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just started. >>> It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S maybe it's not

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2020-03-31 Thread chuck
And Matt was right all along... On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S maybe it's not the flu? 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... mean

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2020-02-10 Thread Steve Jones
Chinese are very susceptible to new respiratory diseases, i think their three year old probably havenlungs that look like mine and ive smokes for 30 years. My guess is their immune systems are taxed keeping community immunity pathogens like the flu at bay. When a new pathogen is introduced they jus

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2020-02-10 Thread Robert
And a counterpoint...   CN has the flu too, and many die from it.   But they aren't driving around spraying disenfectant out of fogging trucks to battle the flu.   Prep, don't prep, doesn't matter to me.  But saying that others don't need to worry about it is being an authority on something the

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2020-02-10 Thread Steve Jones
I am pissed though, because im wondering if the ship with my tools got quarantined. it was 10-20 day shipping and that was january 11. I emailed the contact and got no response, I assume the contact is in the new prison hospital getting a lead based vaccine on his way to the incinerator. Also, as

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2020-02-10 Thread Steve Jones
Chinas numbers dont matter. The 300 or so outside china matter, and those numbers are currently of nearly zero concern since the only ones dying are people who were already compromised prior to leaving china where they were infected. Aside from the anticipated infections due to long term confinemen

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2020-02-10 Thread Colin Stanners
Can we re-start this thread as OT: as it's no longer strongly related to WISP topics? Unless we wish to change the subject to equipment sourcing; from my recent communications and attempts it seems like a big part of the world's fiber SFPs are manufactured in the Shenzhen region. My understanding

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2020-02-10 Thread Matt Hoppes
And Beijing is now on lock down. Still thinking this isn’t something to be concerned about? Chiba knows something they aren’t telling the rest of the world. > On Feb 9, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > I do expect some of the more nefarious vendors to make hay on this though. > Jus

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2020-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
I do expect some of the more nefarious vendors to make hay on this though. Just like they did on the tarrifs. Between kung flu and tarriffs, there arensome companies my boss will have to punch me in the mouth if he wants me to buy the gear. On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 9:54 PM Steve Jones wrote: > This

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2020-02-09 Thread Steve Jones
This virus has beennknown at least since early december. It been known outside china since early january, well outside the 3 to 4 weeks. Still under 300 outside china. I literally ignore the china numbers, they have the worst air quality in recorded history on the planet. Kung flu is less concernin

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2020-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
I did. I am standing by that too. bp On 2/9/2020 7:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: In the US? Bill said US. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Let me fix that for you: Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without being tested.

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2020-02-09 Thread Chuck McCown
In the US? Bill said US. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Let me fix that for you: > Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without > being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason (eg > Pneumonia, or

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2020-02-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
It literally takes 3-4 weeks for the virus to peak. We are only just finding infected people now. Give it two more weeks and let’s see where we are. Remember there is a 14 day incubation phase where the carrier has no symptoms but is infectious. Then the person may become ill for a week or

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2020-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
None, zero, have been in the US. One in the Philipines. One in Hong Kong. All the rest in China. Only a dozen infections in the US; none fatal so far. 10,000 died from the flu in the US. 19 million flu infections in the US. bp On 2/9/2020 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Let me fix that for you

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2020-02-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
the other hand, they have an authoritarian government, failure may not be an option. If they can build a hospital in 10 days, maybe they can continue to build Ubiquiti radios. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:58 PM To: AFMUG Subject:

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2020-02-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
Let me fix that for you: Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason (eg Pneumonia, or Heart Attack). So the numbers being reported are not accurate. > On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince w

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2020-02-09 Thread Bill Prince
Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in the US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0. https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-1-americans-this-season/ Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot. bp On

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
*ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Friday, February 7, 2020 2:32 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock >> >> >> >> Was Kate +8 the prototype for Karen? >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Hohhof >> >

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
ent:* Friday, February 7, 2020 2:32 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock > > > > Was Kate +8 the prototype for Karen? > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Friday, February 7, 2020 12:41 PM > > *To:* 'Anima

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2020-02-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
the kids. I think I’d prefer a Janet. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 2:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock Was Kate +8 the prototype for Karen? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 12:41

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
ate +8 the prototype for Karen? > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, February 7, 2020 12:41 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock > > > Now you’ve done it, Karen wants to talk to your manager. > > > &g

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
Was Kate +8 the prototype for Karen? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 12:41 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock Now you’ve done it, Karen wants to talk to your manager. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday,

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
That is ungood. Please keep us posted. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 12:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock Well, about that airplane travelers... It's only _one_ data point but it's the _one_ that I know

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2020-02-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Now you’ve done it, Karen wants to talk to your manager. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock It was identified outside china at the beginning of january, thats 3 incubation

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2020-02-07 Thread Robert Andrews
Well, about that airplane travelers... It's only _one_ data point but it's the _one_ that I know PERSONALLY. My canary.. Friend is a commercial pilot. He was told by our other friend, DON'T take that bid to Hong Kong by both of us. He took it. We said see you in two weeks, he said he

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2020-02-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Well the context of our pontificating is whether our supply chain will be affected.  It's a fair question.  We may not be equipped to answer that perfectly, but we'll have to do our best all the same. -Adam On 2/7/2020 1:02 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: Animal Farm - the home of Infectious Disease Exp

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
Probably never a good idea, in any situation. On 2/7/20 1:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Should I stop licking door knobs? -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:07 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
I think i just caught kungflu from that On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 12:08 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > That's not exactly what they said... > > They said, a mask is not currently recommended because it's not > spreading. that's very different from you don't need to

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
Should I stop licking door knobs? -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:07 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock That's not exactly what they said... They said, a mask is not currently recomm

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
That's not exactly what they said... They said, a mask is not currently recommended because it's not spreading. that's very different from you don't need to wear a mask. "CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks among the general public. While limited person-to-person spread

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
we spend a majority of our time doing maths and calculating odds and risk while filtering marketing (government) fluff from real world application. Its just a numbers game, no matter how you look at it On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 12:03 PM Tim Hardy wrote: > Animal Farm - the home of Infectious Diseas

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
That should have said 14 DAYS... my mistake clearly I need more coffee. On 2/7/20 12:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote: The incubation period is most certainly not 14 weeks. It is probably more on the order of 5-10 days. That is why they are isolating potential victims for 14 days; well beyond the s

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2020-02-07 Thread Tim Hardy
Animal Farm - the home of Infectious Disease Experts that just happen to work in the WISP industry, throwing their 12+ years of higher education away to bring us the Internet LOL. On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 12:56 PM Bill Prince wrote: > The incubation period is most certainly not 14 weeks. It is pro

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2020-02-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Apple News+ ? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock Whelp, if I really want to know what is going on, I read the news... -Original Message- From

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
It was identified outside china at the beginning of january, thats 3 incubation cycles. If it was going to spread, it would have spread heavily. its a freaking STD outside china for the most part, maybe even inside china, who knows what they do there.The cruise ships are anticipated places for it t

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2020-02-07 Thread Bill Prince
The incubation period is most certainly not 14 weeks. It is probably more on the order of 5-10 days. That is why they are isolating potential victims for 14 days; well beyond the suspected incubation period. The CDC does NOT believe you need to wear a face mask (h

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
Whelp, if I really want to know what is going on, I read the news... -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 10:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S maybe it's not the flu? 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularl

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
Buy massive stock of your CN made radios now. Purchase a few N95 and N100 face masks, and perhaps one or two Tyvek suites... it's cheap, and you'll keep your business running. If nothing happens, hey, you'll be set for your next attic or trailer install. If something does happen, well... you'

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2020-02-07 Thread Bill Prince
You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 fatalities outside of mainland China. Just stay away from bat soup. bp On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

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2020-02-07 Thread Robert Andrews
& they just canceled a major LPG purchase under "Force Majeur".. i.e. the god clause... No things are not going well over there. And if you watch the video, the prediction is that it's around a month for things go peak over there and two months for things to get "interesting" in the rest of

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2020-02-07 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm sure you remember SARS and all the hand-wringing and freaking out that happened.  Turned out to be not such a big deal. One problem/feature with the Internet is that it puts us closer to the "raw intelligence" without any filter applied to what's fact vs inference vs rumor vs fiction writt

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
fferences in receptors amongst different races. > > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:29 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock > > This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is below > 2% (which is

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has caused China to: Send the president into hiding Build several emergency hospitals Lock down major cities Extend the CNY In some cases barricade people in their homes Daily fumigation of streets Crematories running 24x7 to burning the

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
Well I hope they don’t leave out the gift of free bats and snakes in my shipment of cables. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:42 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock But they have a large city on lockdown, and to some the

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
Sounds like a live streaming moment to me. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock this is the Johns Hopkins map Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have been wrong. Recoveries

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2020-02-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
, February 7, 2020 10:30 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 (measles

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2020-02-07 Thread chuck
And it is far more infectious to Asians than Waspy people. By a factor of 2:1 due to differences in receptors amongst different races. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:29 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock This thing is being overblown in a big

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2020-02-07 Thread Bill Prince
This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 (measles by comparison is rated at 15). So the virus

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
this is the Johns Hopkins map Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people who had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in New Jersey today a

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2020-02-07 Thread Steve Jones
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 the map On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones wrote: > this is the Johns Hopkins map > Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have been wrong. > Recoveries are out pacing dea

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
I posted on Facebook asking about this and was basically laughed at. I do believe there will be a severe equipment disruption and I intend to do some stock piling. On 2/7/20 11:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has something to do with the Wuhan virus a

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2020-02-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don't follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all their stuff is made in China? I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are starting to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this year. I know China will try not t

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
Which of course was because "the provider market isn't doing well" rather than "we really @#$@#4 up our supply chain with 11x, software bugs, and other nonsense. On 2/7/20 11:03 AM, Eric Nielsen wrote: Quarterly reports were bleak, according to their press release. Their revenue was down 4.6%

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2020-02-07 Thread Eric Nielsen
Quarterly reports were bleak, according to their press release. Their revenue was down 4.6% over the previous quarter. On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:59 AM Rex-List Account wrote: > What’s up with the Ubiguiti stock price drop? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/

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2020-02-07 Thread Matt Hoppes
Maybe the fact that Robert purchased a jet that he said he was going to use for personal use? That's rather Adelphia-ish. On 2/7/20 10:58 AM, Rex-List Account wrote: What’s up with the Ubiguiti stock price drop? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.