I think i just caught kungflu from that On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 12:08 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> That's not exactly what they said... > > They said, a mask is not currently recommended because it's not > spreading..... that's very different from you don't need to wear a mask. > > "CDC does not currently recommend the use of facemasks among the general > public. While limited person-to-person spread among close contacts has > been detected, this virus is not currently spreading in the community in > the United States. " > > How do we know the virus is not currently spreading? It has a, as you > said, up to 10 day incubation period... and that assumes the condition > is either made aware so we test it, or bad enough they check into a > hospital. > > Someone who is asymptomatic or who is not bad enough to check into the > hospital will go on spreading it happily to others. > > On 2/7/20 12:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > The incubation period is most certainly not 14 weeks. It is probably > > more on the order of 5-10 days. That is why they are isolating potential > > victims for 14 days; well beyond the suspected incubation period. The > > CDC does NOT believe you need to wear a face mask > > (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html). > > > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just > >> started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... > >> maybe it's not the flu? > >> > >> 2019-nCoV has a*14 week incubation period*... meaning spreading is > >> happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularly > >> dangerous. > >> > >> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on what's > >> going on and what's going to be going on, but on CN and elsewhere in > >> the world. > >> > >> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7 days > >> to get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is > >> a very long lag and we are currently sitting in it. > >> > >> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities because > >> the health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere? > >> > >> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the > >>> reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 > >>> fatalities outside of mainland China. > >>> > >>> Just stay away from bat soup. > >>> > >>> > >>> bp > >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>> > >>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has > >>>> caused China to: > >>>> > >>>> Send the president into hiding > >>>> Build several emergency hospitals > >>>> Lock down major cities > >>>> Extend the CNY > >>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes > >>>> Daily fumigation of streets > >>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies > >>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into > >>>> quarantine > >>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information > >>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums > >>>> > >>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for > >>>> anyone dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going > >>>> they all respond with extremely similar answers about how everything > >>>> is contained in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the > >>>> same wording in cases. > >>>> > >>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus” that > >>>> we don’t that they are willing to risk their economy? > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com > >>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality > >>>>> rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). > >>>>> Second, the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between > >>>>> 1.5 and 3 (measles by comparison is rated at 15). > >>>>> > >>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that > fatal. > >>>>> > >>>>> Fear driven journalism. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> bp > >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>>>>> > https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 > >>>>>> the map > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones > >>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> this is the Johns Hopkins map > >>>>>> Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have > >>>>>> been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread > >>>>>> outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people who > >>>>>> had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in > >>>>>> New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small > >>>>>> jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the > >>>>>> dirtiest on the planet. > >>>>>> I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i will > >>>>>> lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player > >>>>>> and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > >>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has > >>>>>> something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all > >>>>>> their stuff is made in China? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are starting > >>>>>> to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this > >>>>>> year. I know China will try not to let the virus impact > >>>>>> their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how it > >>>>>> won’t. It could also spread to other countries in the area > >>>>>> that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and > >>>>>> assembly work. 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