Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-27 Thread Josh Luthman
>> >> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> How do you tune the tunable optics? Is it done in the config of the >> router, or do you tune it before installing somehow? >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread TJ Trout
>>> They will send one for free if you order optics from them. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> How do you tune the tunable optics? Is it done in the config of the >>> router

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Carl Peterson
gt; >> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> How do you tune the tunable optics? Is it done in the config of the >> router, or do you tune it before installing somehow? >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Tuesday, Ja

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Trey Scarborough
config of the router, or do you tune it before installing somehow? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber We spare with tu

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Trey Scarborough
If you are just wanting to have multiple passive channels between two locations it doesn't really matter if your talking less than 16 channels, Cost is about the same either way for equipment if your distance isn't that long and won't need amps. With good optics you should be able to get about

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
h then you need $16,000 in spare >>> optics. That’s not even a bad scenario. Some of the more exotic optics >>> are $2300 from Fiber Store. I have a quote in hand for 80km 100G Arista >>> branded optics from another vendor for over $6000. If you’re using >>&g

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Carl Peterson
installing somehow? >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber >> >> We spare with tunable optic

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
r, or do you tune it before installing somehow? > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber > > We spare with tunable optics

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Screwdriver and a color chart... From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 8:39 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber The manufacturers supply a ‘programmer box’ that usually have a USB connector, a SFP slot, and

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
; To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber > > We spare with tunable optics. Production is channel specific but spares are > tunable to the frequency. Price is usually 4x the fixed optics, but as you > noted, having to s

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Chris Fabien
If there may ever be an opportunity to use this path to connect to another network via a handhole meet, you should try to use the same technology on your side. We have two handhole meets where a carrier drops a DWDM 10G wave out from longhaul and we take it into an add drop module and into our DWDM

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
lFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 6:57:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber My recollection is the DWDM optics are slightly cheaper, but the CWDM muxes are cheaper. I think if you fully populate the CWDM MUX then the cost was a wa

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread dmmoffett
How do you tune the tunable optics? Is it done in the config of the router, or do you tune it before installing somehow? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Carl Peterson > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:43 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber > > We are leasing a fe

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-25 Thread dmmoffett
, January 25, 2022 4:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber We are leasing a few new strands of dark to a couple locations. On our other paths we have just Done BiDi for our ring or payload and used another for our routed/management

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
You’re doing it right. Use DWDM or CWDM depending on your needs. There are advantages and disadvantages to using two fibers. You can use two fibers and BiDi to create a ring that can take a single fiber cut anywhere without losing connectivity. We have done that in a number of locations. E

[AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-25 Thread Carl Peterson
We are leasing a few new strands of dark to a couple locations. On our other paths we have just Done BiDi for our ring or payload and used another for our routed/management network. For these strands, I'm thinking of doing passive WDM. Any benefit to DWDM vs CWDM if you aren't expecting to scale