Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
Sure. But I kick them off - they go to someone else, then they go to someone else. If you come to me with a legitimate request and pay reasonable research fees sure we will take care if it, but we aren’t a charity. > On Aug 1, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > They hope that loss

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
They hope that loss of safe harbor under DMCA and headlines about $1 billion jury awards will scare ISPs into kicking pirates off their networks. https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/19/21030812/cox-communications-record-labels-lawsuit-appeal-1-billion-piracy-isp-charter (and that was about so

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Sounds like a job for Wispa. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2020, at 4:37 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >  > Law enforcement pays as well. Lookup the rates the big boys charge the police > for these requests. They have pricing tables just like every other product > they sell.. > >> On Sat, Aug 1

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread TJ Trout
Law enforcement pays as well. Lookup the rates the big boys charge the police for these requests. They have pricing tables just like every other product they sell.. On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 1:55 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > I’m not a fan. But unless it’s law enforcement you need to pay for > administrati

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
I’m not a fan. But unless it’s law enforcement you need to pay for administrative time. > On Aug 1, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Supposedly IP Echelon has a reputation for sending bogus claims, or not doing > the due diligence required by the DMCA. Although in some of those ca

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Supposedly IP Echelon has a reputation for sending bogus claims, or not doing the due diligence required by the DMCA. Although in some of those cases, they claimed it was a scam impersonating them. https://torrentfreak.com/isp-wants-us-marshals-to-help-serve-piracy-tracking-outfit-180528/

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread chuck
I was always very cooperative. Not a fan of IP infringement. But yeah, I let the customer know they had to fix the problem. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 1:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent Give it up Matt!! You know

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Darin Steffl
Give it up Matt!! You know they won't pay so just ignore their emails. On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 1:16 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > Exactly. We won’t provide details without a court order. And without > payment we aren’t going to research anything. > > > On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
Exactly. We won’t provide details without a court order. And without payment we aren’t going to research anything. > On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > So do I understand correctly they are sending you DMCA complaints and you > are sending them bills for researching the suppose

Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
So do I understand correctly they are sending you DMCA complaints and you are sending them bills for researching the supposedly infringing customer and they don't pay but they send more complaints? This seems like Tom Hanks having a "conversation" with "Wilson" in the movie Castaway. Did you actu

[AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent

2020-08-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
IP Echelon continues to send us requests for information and research even as their account remains delinquent with us. We have contacted them multiple times requesting payment but they have not responded and continue to send requests for research. Does anyone have a good contact at IP Echelo