Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi, There is now an upgrade tool available -- please see the related blog post from earlier this week . Hopefully the tool will make it easier to upgrade some of those large campaigns without using the API (and thereb

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-25 Thread Chuck Reeves
David, Thank you for the help on this. I went ahead and switched back the AdGroupCirterionService and tied setting up the partition table for 20,000 products. I would send the service batches of 2000 for each call. It worked well for the 1st 4 calls and then I got hit with a rate limit. The

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-23 Thread david
On Wednesday, 23 July 2014 14:57:13 UTC+1, Chuck Reeves wrote: > > I actually tried to use the AdGroupCriterionSerivce. After I sent in the > 1st ad group, I was rate limited. Between the two calls I waited for 60 > seconds (with other services, I only needed to wait for ~30 seconds between

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-23 Thread Chuck Reeves
I actually tried to use the AdGroupCriterionSerivce. After I sent in the 1st ad group, I was rate limited. Between the two calls I waited for 60 seconds (with other services, I only needed to wait for ~30 seconds between calls). I never got any errors response from the BulkMutateService (in

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-23 Thread david
See this link in case it helps https://groups.google.com/d/msg/adwords-api/Ou-PSngYi7k/ZD-xuWexxA0J Looks like the BulkMutateService does not support shopping campaigns. But usually the error CAMPAIGN_TYPE_NOT_COMPATIBLE_WITH_PARTIAL_FAILURE is given. So we have to send our partition tree in ba

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-22 Thread Chuck Reeves
I was trying to push the partition tree using MutateJobService. I sent 2,500 partitions to be added and started polling for a response. The stats for the job showed as status of PROCESSING and at 60 percent complete. After 20 min, no change in the status or progress. I then decided to try

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-21 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi Greg, Thanks for all of the feedback - the details you've provided are extremely helpful in explaining why the mutate limit is problematic for you. I've passed this information on to the Shopping team and will let you know as soon as I have any news. Thanks, Josh, AdWords API Team On Frida

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-18 Thread GregT
Hi, Josh. Thanks much for looking into it and for the good news -- that will be extremely helpful for us, and will solve a large part of the issue on an ongoing basis. I do, unfortunately, think that the limitation on ADD operations is still going to be an issue. On a shorter term basis, we h

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-18 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi, David - thanks for clarifying. You are absolutely correct: your mutates simply need to keep the tree in a valid state, but you can send a mutate that only touches a subtree. I have some good news - the limit of 2 ad groups per mutate request does *not* apply to *SET* operations anymore. Th

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-17 Thread david
On Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:56:38 UTC+1, GregT wrote: > > (because the API requires you to send the entire product partition tree > for an ad group in one call, and an ad group's partition tree could be up > to 20,000 criterion), > Slightly OT but just in case it helps, the above isn't qui

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-16 Thread GregT
Just to put in my two cents, if it makes any difference... While it'd be great to have the mutate job service and partial failures in the next release, at the least, we'd really really like to see the limit increased sooner than the next API release -- seeing as Google is converting all PLA ca

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-16 Thread Christian
Hi Josh and Greg, thanks for your feedback. Similar to Greg, in the past we also created PLA campaigns for big feeds by creating one ad group per product and by using more than one campaign if the products exceed the ad group limit. While the suggestion to use a product scope as an intermediat

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-11 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi Greg, I'll look into the limit you mentioned below on ad group mutates. Please note that the limit I quoted from here of 20,000 *ProductPartitions* per campaign is *incorrect*. The a

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-11 Thread GregT
We have also in the past (with PLA campaigns) been creating a product target per product, each in its own ad group (splitting into multiple campaigns when necessary), and in our migration to shopping campaigns, plan on doing the same thing. We have many clients, some with large product feeds l

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-11 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi Christian, I'm a little concerned about the manageability of so many campaigns and the ad group-per product approach. I also found that there's a limit of 20,000 product partitions per campaign (noted here

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-10 Thread Christian
Hi Josh, thanks for your feedback. We are also aware of the limitation of ad groups per campaign, but we already deal with that fact by creating multiple campaigns for a product feed if the number of products exceeds the limit. According to the linked answer, I cannot see any problems concernin

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-09 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi Christian, I'll get back to you with a more complete answer, but one issue that immediately comes to mind with the solution below is that you'll quickly exceed the limits on the number of ad groups per campaign (currently 20,000). https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/1704396 Best rega

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-07-08 Thread Christian
Hi Josh, we would like to set up shopping campaigns for quite large product feed (e.g. 10 products). Here we are facing limitation issues (concerning the number product partitions per ad group) because we would like to set up our shopping campaigns with a 1-to-1 mapping, i.e. one partition

Re: Setting the CPC bid on product in shopping campaign.

2014-06-11 Thread Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)
Hi, AFAIK, the limits on the # of ProductPartition s in your accounts/adgroups/campaigns is dictated by the same limits AdWords uses for other types of criteria, as documented here: http