Re: License Pricing

2003-03-27 Thread Daniel Sparrman
Good enough? Compared to what? Yes sir, we we were able to restore 50% of the information with the VW in the double amount of time... It only costed us twice as much, which isn't bad compared to the cost of buying a more expensive product, which had restored 100% of the data in half the time...

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2003-03-27 Thread Bradshaw, Cecil C Mr DATACEN/IBM
Sad to say, management may tell you the VW is 'good enough'. -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing :) Good point... Only comparing prices, and not functio

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2003-03-27 Thread Daniel Sparrman
:) Good point... Only comparing prices, and not functionality, is like going in to Porsche, and telling them that if they dont lower their prices, you'll buy a Volkswagen... Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B

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2003-03-27 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: J M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I think all large TSM sites should leverage CA, Legato, and > Veritas competitive price quotes so that IBM wakes up to > smell the reality-- large businesses are not printing cash > and the bottom line still matters! Not to put too fine an edge to it, but.

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2003-03-21 Thread Ted Byrne
>The figures I quote are from the IBM Tivoli Price Estimator tool. Is this tool publically available to TSM customers? David David and Arnaud, The pricing tool is not available to customers. See the following quote from the tool: "IBM Internal Use Only This tool authorized for u

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2003-03-21 Thread Ochs, Duane
e. Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375 -Original Message- From: Ted Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing >Doesn't the new licensing scheme result in 1) higher prices for =

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2003-03-21 Thread David E Ehresman
>The figures I quote are from the IBM Tivoli Price Estimator tool. Is this tool publically available to TSM customers? David

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2003-03-21 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
AIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing >Doesn't the new licensing scheme result in 1) higher prices for = >clients, but 2) lower prices for the server. ... >So if you plan to back up a just a small number of clients, you may = >actually come out cheaper? Can anyone confirm this

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2003-03-20 Thread J M
CTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:17:48 -0700 From a sales standpoint, this makes sense when taken in the larger context. In the old days... We paid for Extended Library, DRM, etc. Basically paid all this money on the server side rather than the cli

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2003-03-20 Thread Steve Harris
licenses for the 3 boxes is going to stop it dead. ..Rikk -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2003 00:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing This is turning out to be an interesting thread to watch. Lots of emot

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2003-03-20 Thread Ted Byrne
Doesn't the new licensing scheme result in 1) higher prices for = clients, but 2) lower prices for the server. ... So if you plan to back up a just a small number of clients, you may = actually come out cheaper? Can anyone confirm this (possibly erroneous) opinion? Tivoli certainly doesn't make it

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2003-03-20 Thread Cahill, Ricky
s moved to TSM asap, but presenting the boss with a bill for £5000+ just for licenses for the 3 boxes is going to stop it dead. ..Rikk -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2003 00:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing

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2003-03-19 Thread Coats, Jack
This is turning out to be an interesting thread to watch. Lots of emotion (it hits us all where it hurts ... in the pocket book). IMHO what we are seeing is the market responding to a vendor pricing scenario change. Not good or bad, just different. IBM's changes will change the way customers rea

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2003-03-19 Thread Magura, Curtis
e- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing Doesn't the new licensing scheme result in 1) higher prices for clients, but 2) lower prices for the server. So that if you are just buying client lice

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2003-03-19 Thread Allen Barth
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/19/03 02:26 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: License Pricing Doesn't the new licensing scheme resul

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2003-03-19 Thread Prather, Wanda
9, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing Yes, I just purchased a single processor license, it was $528 or so USD. The ones I purchased just before year end were about $218USD. Unless new customers are coming in with huge discounts, I think that TSM is now priced out of

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2003-03-19 Thread Slag, Jerry B.
: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing This licensing thing has me going nuts, I just got a quote back from Dell that prices the per-processor at $55.00 for client and about $950 per-processor for SQL. Is it still per-processor this week or are we back

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2003-03-19 Thread Kelly J. Lipp
ED] Behalf Of Kauffman, Tom Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing I'm probably going to be looking at new NT licenses soon -- and if they think they're going to get this kind of vigorish from us, they're crazy. We'll end up

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2003-03-19 Thread Levinson, Donald A.
the system in question? -Original Message- From: Kamp, Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing Has anybody heard how they are going to handle licensing on Intel Xeon processor servers with hyper-threading

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2003-03-19 Thread Kamp, Bruce
System E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: (954) 987-2020 x4597 F: (954) 985-1404 --- -Original Message- From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing I'm probably goi

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2003-03-19 Thread Kauffman, Tom
Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: License Pricing Yes, I just purchased a single processor license, it was $528 or so USD. The ones I purchased just before year end were about $218USD. Unless new customers are coming in with huge discounts, I think th

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2003-03-19 Thread Dirk Billerbeck
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2003-03-19 Thread Richard Sims
>Yes, I just purchased a single processor license, it was $528 or so USD. The >ones I purchased just before year end were about $218USD. > >Unless new customers are coming in with huge discounts, I think that >TSM is now priced out of the market. IBM has a self-defeating habit of over-pricing lic

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2003-03-19 Thread Coats, Jack
Yes, I just purchased a single processor license, it was $528 or so USD. The ones I purchased just before year end were about $218USD. Unless new customers are coming in with huge discounts, I think that TSM is now priced out of the market. As a consultant (in a former life) I would be seriousl

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2003-03-19 Thread Dirk Billerbeck
Hi Ricky, what do you want to do? Register some additional nodes? Then you've got to buy new licenses. They are now sold on a per cpu base and the price depends if you are using the base version of TSM or the extended version and your company's Passport Advantage level at IBM. Lower level customer