Re: NDMP backup to container pool

2019-06-13 Thread J. Eric Wonderley
Yes..I saw that link and fore v>8.1.3 it supposedly works. We have done file in the past and found performance to be poor...especially server dedup. Was curious about what others have observed. On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 3:00 PM Michael Prix wrote: > Hello, > > well, as always, it depends: > htt

Re: NDMP backup to container pool

2019-06-13 Thread Michael Prix
Hello, well, as always, it depends: https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg22012594 -- Michael Prix On Thu, 2019-06-13 at 13:13 -0400, J. Eric Wonderley wrote: > Is this activity supported with SP? > > I recall in the past it was not but you could go to devc=file > > Thanks much

NDMP backup to container pool

2019-06-13 Thread J. Eric Wonderley
Is this activity supported with SP? I recall in the past it was not but you could go to devc=file Thanks much

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-21 Thread Efim
no, I think you don't understand me. Connection from TSM to NAS - NDMPControlport Connections from NAS to TSM - ndmpportrange Usually configuration looks like this: NDMP control port: TSM Servers (all) -> NAS: 1 NAS -> TSM Servers: 1024-2024 (range) Check port configured on

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-21 Thread Bo Nielsen
: Re: [ADSM-L] NDMP backup over LAN. you say that there are no firewall restrictions, and I believe you. But, the port number used is quite high. There is a setting, ndmpportrange for the TSM server. We noticed that setting that to 1,10010 did help, despite the lack of firewalls. > Op 20

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-21 Thread Remco Post
5) > 12/06/2017 08:52:18 ANR1063I Full backup or NAS node DCC-ISILON01, file > system / ifs, started as process 155 by administrator > BOANIE. (SESSION: 78516, PROCESS: 155) > 12/06/2017 08:52:21 ANR4399E NAS file server 130.225.82.184 is repo

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-21 Thread Efim
Hi, by default SP uses 1 port (server option NDMPControlport) on NAS for communicate. Check which port is configured on the NAS. When you define datamover do you use correct user and password for NDMP operations on NAS? Efim > 21 дек. 2017 г., в 10:46, Bo Nielsen написал(а): >

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-20 Thread Bo Nielsen
Hi Shawn, The Storage pool data format is Native: Storage Pool Data Format: Native Regards Bo -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Shawn Drew Sent: 20. december 2017 17:41 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] NDMP backup

Re: NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-20 Thread Shawn Drew
gt; 12/06/2017 08:52:21 ANR4399E NAS file server 130.225.82.184 is reporting NDMP > error number 23: A data connection could not be > established. (SESSION: 78516, PROCESS: 155) > 12/06/2017 08:52:21 ANR4794E The NAS file server 130.225.82.184 failed to > open an NDMP data connection to

NDMP backup over LAN.

2017-12-20 Thread Bo Nielsen
system / ifs, started as process 155 by administrator BOANIE. (SESSION: 78516, PROCESS: 155) 12/06/2017 08:52:21 ANR4399E NAS file server 130.225.82.184 is reporting NDMP error number 23: A data connection could not be established

NDMP Backup Problem

2017-08-09 Thread Saravanan Palanisamy
Dear Experts, I am looking for your advice on below topic. We have NDMP backups are configured with SP Server (7.1.6). The Netapp ( v8.5 , 7 mode) setup would be like, the remote site production filer has been syncing the data to DR site Filer (snapmirror). The TSM NDMP backup is configured

Re: ndmp

2017-08-01 Thread Stefan Folkerts
2:04 AM, Skylar Thompson wrote: > I agree, we use this approach as well. NDMP has scaling issues, doesn't > play nicely with TSM incremental backups or include/exclude lists, and ties > you into a single storage vendor for both backups and restores. That last > point is particularly s

Re: ndmp

2017-08-01 Thread Skylar Thompson
I agree, we use this approach as well. NDMP has scaling issues, doesn't play nicely with TSM incremental backups or include/exclude lists, and ties you into a single storage vendor for both backups and restores. That last point is particularly scary for anyone writing DR plans, since who

Re: ndmp

2017-08-01 Thread Thomas Denier
). The Commvault workload includes a NAS server on the same scale as yours. Our Commvault representative advised us to forget about Commvault's NDMP support and use the Commvault analog of the approach described in the previous paragraph. The subject of NAS backup coverage arose at an IBM tra

ndmp

2017-07-31 Thread Remco Post
(DISK & FILE) doesn’t support NDMP and I don’t like FILE with deduplication (too much of a hassle), so is it really true, are we really stuck with tape? ISn’t it about time after so many years that IBM finally gives us a decent solution to backup NAS systems? -- Met vriendelijke gro

Re: Restore NDMP backups from Netapp 7 mode to CIFS shares ?

2017-03-22 Thread Shawn Drew
To be clear, you are saying you can restore NDMP data without a file server providing NDMP services as long as the data was stored in a native pool? -Shawn

Re: Restore NDMP backups from Netapp 7 mode to CIFS shares ?

2017-03-22 Thread Ron Delaware
IF you setup the web client to perform the restores, you can restore them to someplace other than the original location, provided that your NDMP backups are using what is called a 3-way setup of the NDMP environment. This setup has the NDMP backups being sent to a TSM/Spectrum Protect

Restore NDMP backups from Netapp 7 mode to CIFS shares ?

2017-03-21 Thread TSM ORT
We have been doing NDMP backups several years from source is Netapp 7-mode CIFS shares and purpose of NDMP backups were long term data keeping. We will be keeping NDMP backups however the Netapp will be decommissioned soon .What we are looking if it is possible to restore NDMP backups from TSM

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Huebner, Andy
I believe that (ufsdump) is referring to the target and the format the data will be sent in. Not the source. In the olden days when I had a Celerra and used NDMP, the full dump started at block 1 and proceeded to the last block, files and other structures were not considered. The Celerra

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Shawn DREW
Richard L. Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:46 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] NDMP backups Restore I found this comment from NetApp: >Dump Format: >Before we begin, it is important to realize that NetApp dump >(whether initiated using NDMP or using the filer console)

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Rhodes, Richard L.
I found this comment from NetApp: >Dump Format: >Before we begin, it is important to realize that NetApp dump >(whether initiated using NDMP or using the filer console) adheres to >the ufsdump (Solaris dump) format. So it sounds line the NetApp data format is Solaris dump fo

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Skylar Thompson
Yep, this is correct. It is one of the reasons I have avoided NDMP backups in favor of NFS/CIFS backups. On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 03:23:58PM +, Huebner, Andy wrote: > My understanding is NDMP is a standard for the transport of data, not the > format of the data. I would not expect a

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Huebner, Andy
My understanding is NDMP is a standard for the transport of data, not the format of the data. I would not expect an NDMP backup from one vendor to work on the next vendor. As an example: NetApp supports compression and does not decompress for the backup. They next system would have to

Re: NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-06 Thread Remco Post
> On 05 Sep 2016, at 14:55, Nick Marouf wrote: > > Hello ADSM, > > We are currently migrating away from Netapps, (NDMP to tape) to a new store > subsystem ( Infinidat) > > My belief is that since NDMP is a common protocol, we should be able to > restore those v

NDMP backups Restore

2016-09-05 Thread Nick Marouf
Hello ADSM, We are currently migrating away from Netapps, (NDMP to tape) to a new store subsystem ( Infinidat) My belief is that since NDMP is a common protocol, we should be able to restore those via TSM to volumes on to the Infinidats or any other alternate storage destination. Does anyone

Re: Restore Individual File from NDMP COPYPOOL

2016-05-12 Thread Shawn DREW
You can figure out which tapes the backup occupies by looking at the backups and contents tables. Since NDMP backups are single objects it isn't as unpleasant as looking through the backups table for regular backup files. Just a quick overview: - Get object IDs for the backup image(s)

Re: Restore Individual File from NDMP COPYPOOL

2016-05-12 Thread Plair, Ricky
you can recall it. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:57 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Restore Individual File from NDMP COPYPOOL Dumb question but is the copypool

Re: Restore Individual File from NDMP COPYPOOL

2016-05-12 Thread Zoltan Forray
Dumb question but is the copypool tape marked as offsite/offline (I know all of my offsite tapes are marked as such) On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Plair, Ricky wrote: > HELP PLEASE! > > I have an EMC Ision that I'm backing up with TSM 7.1.10. > > Using TSM I can restore a file back to the Is

Restore Individual File from NDMP COPYPOOL

2016-05-12 Thread Plair, Ricky
HELP PLEASE! I have an EMC Ision that I'm backing up with TSM 7.1.10. Using TSM I can restore a file back to the Isilon, with no problem. My problem is, if I take the tape media that TSM used during the successful restore to the Isilon from the primary pool and change it unavailable, TSM shoul

Re: NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread McWilliams, Eric
We don't have the backup accelerator or FC connections to zone the library. Any suggestions on setting up 3-way NDMP? Eric -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Schneider, Jim Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:24 PM To: A

Re: NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread white jeff
### Now define the TOC for the NDMP backups. I defined 2 25gb drives DEFINE VOLUME stg_ndmp_toc E:\your-windows-path-name\toc_stg_vol_ formatsize=25000 n=2 And of course you need some tapes in the library, so these will need to be checked in, if not already in there I have VTL's on a Data Do

Re: NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread Schneider, Jim
: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of McWilliams, Eric Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:47 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] NDMP Thanks but I've listened to that already and looked through the power point slides and still don't understand. I alre

Re: NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread McWilliams, Eric
Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Gee, Norman Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 12:10 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] NDMP Try listening to this https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www-2D01.ibm.com_support_docview.wss-3Fuid-3Dswg27041348&

Re: NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread Gee, Norman
Try listening to this http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27041348 Look for Configuring NDMP Filer to Server Backups (Also known as "3-way NDMP Backup") -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of McWilliams,

NDMP

2015-04-01 Thread McWilliams, Eric
Okay, what is the secret to setting up TSM to back up a NAS filer? We have a NAS (Isilon) but there is no tape library attached to it. The tape library is attached to the TSM server, which is a Windows server. I've followed all the instructions I could find but they seem to be geared to a NAS

Speed of NDMP with TOC data over WAN

2015-01-22 Thread Grant Street
Hello We have a backup scenario where we have a NetApp filer with a Tape library attached in the US and our TSM server in Australia (250ms round trip time). We are seeing some very slow NDMP backup times. Anyone have a similar setup? Does the link between the TSM server and the Filer effect

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Boyer
Try this link: https://www.ndm.net/isilon/pdf/ndmp-configuration-guide-for-ibm-tivoli-storage-manager.pdf -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Grant Street Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:25 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-16 Thread Ron Delaware
" To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 07/16/2014 07:53 PM Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] Question about NDMP and TSM. Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Interesting point about NDMP and dedup. Do you have any experience with it? What kind of dedup ratios did you see? -

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-16 Thread Prather, Wanda
Interesting point about NDMP and dedup. Do you have any experience with it? What kind of dedup ratios did you see? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven Harris Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-16 Thread Grant Street
Hi First check compatibility with IBM and EMC. Ron has mentioned a solution that applies to NetApp that may not apply to EMC isilon eg. isilon does not have a vfiler concept. I found that the restrictions of NDMP did not warrant the effort to use it on something like an isilon cluster. The

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-15 Thread Gee, Norman
: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Question about NDMP and TSM. And as a bonus, ndmp storage pools cannot be reclaimed and this means that they hold tapes until the last data has expired. TSM format storage pools can be reclaimed, and if they are file storage

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-15 Thread Steven Harris
And as a bonus, ndmp storage pools cannot be reclaimed and this means that they hold tapes until the last data has expired. TSM format storage pools can be reclaimed, and if they are file storage pools can be deduped as well. Regards Steve Steven Harris TSM Admin Canberra Australia On 16

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-15 Thread Ron Delaware
Ricky, The configuration that you are referring to is what could be considered the 'Traditional' implementation of NDMP. As you have found for yourself, there are a number of restrictions on how the data can be managed though. If you configure the NDMP environment so that a Tivo

Re: Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-15 Thread Schneider, Jim
: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Plair, Ricky Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:21 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Question about NDMP and TSM. I have been asked to look into backing up our EMC Isilon using our TSM server. Everything I read, seems to

Question about NDMP and TSM.

2014-07-15 Thread Plair, Ricky
I have been asked to look into backing up our EMC Isilon using our TSM server. Everything I read, seems to point to backing this NDMP device to tape. Problem is, we do not use tape to backup production. I have researched and found a few articles about backing the NDMP device to tape but

NDMP restores

2014-07-01 Thread Nick Marouf
up to map to the the filer for an NDMP data backup. This process has been working and stable for some time. However, with only one of the many datastores when I restore a specific virtual machine instance to a new empty datastore location, the restore itself is successful. If I browse the data

Re: Celerra NDMP backup failure

2014-06-24 Thread white jeff
Andy I also run NDMP backups to CelerraDump format stg pools. Do you have access to the NAS filer? If so, you can check the NDMP settings (In our case, on the filer, i need to be in /nas/bin to issue server_param commands) ./server_param NASNODE1 -facility NDMP -list Is there anything in

Re: Celerra NDMP backup failure

2014-06-24 Thread Francisco Javier
ginal Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Francisco Javier > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 4:33 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Celerra NDMP backup failure > > How many volumes are setting on the stgpool, I

Re: Celerra NDMP backup failure

2014-06-24 Thread Huebner, Andy
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Celerra NDMP backup failure How many volumes are setting on the stgpool, I can´t see any error on log. Regards 2014-06-23 15:24 GMT-05:00 Huebner, Andy : > After years (at least 5) of working with no issues our Celerra NDMP > backups suddenly started f

Re: Celerra NDMP backup failure

2014-06-23 Thread Francisco Javier
How many volumes are setting on the stgpool, I can´t see any error on log. Regards 2014-06-23 15:24 GMT-05:00 Huebner, Andy : > After years (at least 5) of working with no issues our Celerra NDMP > backups suddenly started failing. No known changes at the time the problem > started

Celerra NDMP backup failure

2014-06-23 Thread Huebner, Andy
After years (at least 5) of working with no issues our Celerra NDMP backups suddenly started failing. No known changes at the time the problem started. IBM says the Celerra is reporting a media error. EMC says the Celerra is timing out. TSM on AIX, 6.2.3.0 NDMP backups are LANFree. Original

Re: EMC NDMP folder exclusion

2014-05-20 Thread Prather, Wanda
Nope. TSM is just driving the NDMP support built into the NAS device. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Gee, Norman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:32 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] EMC NDMP folder exclusion Is they

EMC NDMP folder exclusion

2014-05-20 Thread Gee, Norman
Is they a way to exclude certain sub-folders on an EMC NDMP backup using TSM? Within the EMC configuration there is a way to set environment variables to exclude directories, but TSM is ignoring the environment variables.

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-07 Thread Skylar Thompson
Fair enough. But I think IBM might be the exception here (TSM is another product that proves it). Unfortunately, both of these products come at an upfront price that allows other vendors to undercut them *initially*. Of course, if you look years later, products with ILM built in from the start are

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-06 Thread Ken Bury
Actually IBM does consider backup and ILM in the GPFS file system. Now with the new NFS integration features in GPFS V4.1 the errors of your NAS ways can be corrected. kenb...@us.ibm.com On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Skylar Thompson wrote: > I so wish we could do this. Unfortunately, backups/

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-06 Thread Skylar Thompson
I so wish we could do this. Unfortunately, backups/restores are considered an afterthought both by the vendors and customer management. In general, data lifecycle management has gotten to be a thornier problem over the years, and a lot of people deal with that by ignoring it until it's a serious is

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-06 Thread Prather, Wanda
Re: [ADSM-L] file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device Agreed that NDMP is awful. I think you're on the right track with your NFS solution. Here's how we deal with it now: * Break your NFS volumes up into different mount points (i.e. break /net/example/foo into /net/exam

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-06 Thread Skylar Thompson
Agreed that NDMP is awful. I think you're on the right track with your NFS solution. Here's how we deal with it now: * Break your NFS volumes up into different mount points (i.e. break /net/example/foo into /net/example/foo/dir1, /net/example/foo/dir2, ...). Reference each mount p

NDMP Ports for firewall

2014-05-06 Thread Richard van Denzel
Hi All, I'm trying to perform and NDMP backup between an NetApp NAS (Data Ontap 8.2) and a TSM 6.3.4 server on AIX. There is a firewall inbetween the TSM Server and the NAS. TSM NDMPPROTOCOLPORT 11501 NetApp default 1 I already let the ports in the FW (which I do not manage) be open

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-05-05 Thread Dury, John C.
Sorry for revisiting this but I'm in a predicament now. Trying to backup the NDMP device is a miserable failure and frankly just ugly. I honestly can't see why anyone would use TSM to backup any NDMP devices except for maybe speed issues. We decided to mount all of the NFS shares

Re: Setting up NDMP with TSM 6.1.4.5

2014-03-20 Thread Gee, Norman
Protocol (NDMP) backups. We will explore common problems and finally hints and tips for backups and restores of NDMP with TSM. Date: November 18, 2013 11:00 AM - 12:30 PM Eastern US (Duration 1.5 Hours) Presented by: Tom Hepner Audience: Level 2 & 3 ... -Original Message- From:

Re: Setting up NDMP with TSM 6.1.4.5

2014-03-20 Thread Angela Robertson
Hi, For TSM 6.1, the setting up NDMP instructions are available online at http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.itsm.srv.doc%2Fr_ndmp.html . Angela Angela Robertson IBM Software Group

Setting up NDMP with TSM 6.1.4.5

2014-03-20 Thread Leonard, Matthew
Hi, I running TSM 6.1.4.5 and I'm looking to backup CIFS shares running from an EMC VNXe. Can someone provide me with Step-by-step instructions for setting up NDMP from scratch within TSM? I'm using a VTL and have one library defined. What are the steps to setup NDMP within Tivo

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-16 Thread Prather, Wanda
Oh, that works just fine. Then you're backing up over NFS, no NDMP involved. And TSM will not back up an NFS-mounted volume by default, so you won't get multiple copies. Put the virtualmountpoint names in the DOMAIN statement in dsm.sys of the client you want to run the backups

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-14 Thread Dury, John C.
and memory, along with very fast database disks). To perform the backups efficiently, you might want to think about splitting your data up into separate nodes or filespaces, backed up with independent schedules, so that you're not bottlenecked on a single component. As far as I can tell,

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-13 Thread Skylar Thompson
fast database disks). To perform the backups efficiently, you might want to think about splitting your data up into separate nodes or filespaces, backed up with independent schedules, so that you're not bottlenecked on a single component. As far as I can tell, NDMP was written by storage vendo

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-13 Thread Prather, Wanda
You don't have to use tape. You can do NDMP backups via TCP/IP to your regular TSM storage pool hierarchy. But AFAIK you still have to do it at the volume/share level that the NAS device understands, I don't think you can do it at the root. Using "virtualmountpoint&quo

Re: file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-13 Thread Remco Post
Op 13 feb. 2014, om 20:11 heeft Dury, John C. het volgende geschreven: > We have two Dell NDMP storage devices and a TSM server at both sites. We'd > like to be able to root file level (image backups don't help much) backups > (and restores if necessary) of the entire

file system backups of a Dell NDMP Equallogic device

2014-02-13 Thread Dury, John C.
We have two Dell NDMP storage devices and a TSM server at both sites. We'd like to be able to root file level (image backups don't help much) backups (and restores if necessary) of the entire NDMP device to the local TSM server. Can someone point me in the right direction or tell m

Re: TSM NDMP HNAS Question?

2013-12-12 Thread Prather, Wanda
Yep, setting up NDMP is like trying to drive through an obstacle course with a blindfold on. I think your dataformat is wrong on the DEFINE DATAMOVER. You want NDMPDUMP, not NETAPPDUMP, as your box isn't a NetApp. >From the book: DATAFormat (Required) Specifies the data format that is

Re: TSM NDMP HNAS Question?

2013-12-12 Thread Underdown,John William
Dear W, Thanks for the reply. i'm on a steep learning curb with NDMP. i followed these instructions which were provided by another adsm-l member. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.itsm.srv.doc%2Ft_ndmp_nas_file_srvs_backup_restore.html Perfo

Re: TSM NDMP HNAS Question?

2013-12-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
AFAIK any NAS box that supports NDMP can be backed up to TSM via TCP/IP and ends up in the regular storage pool hierarchy, i.e. disk is fine. But I don't know that the NDMP protocol knows how to do a non-tape fibre connection, any more than TSM does. Do you have any documentation on how

TSM NDMP HNAS Question?

2013-12-10 Thread Underdown,John William
Hi All. i'm trying to determine if it's possible to setup a HNAS (Hitachi) 3080 NDMP backup to TSM Server 6.3.4.0/RHEL 6.4. we don't have any tape in our environment, virtual or otherwise, we're disk only. the SAN admin can create a FC connection between the TSM server and t

Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-12 Thread Richard Rhodes
iles could also be copied from a mounted snapvaulted qtree. The Toasters mailing list for NetApp systems can provide excellent help: http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters Rick From: Nora To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 11/12/2013 07:00 AM Subject: Can you aband

Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-12 Thread Nora
Hello, Thanks for all the replies! I've had a pretty bad experience with SnapDiff. We engaged IBM several times to help us sort out our NDMP backups, and all they could suggest was to use SnapDiff. So I tested it, and it turns out it cannot be used for NetApp in cluster mode! It can on

Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-11 Thread ritchi64
Hi Nora, We also got windows share with million of files. We use snapdiff for daily backup for a few years now and it work fine. We also do a regular TSM incremental scan every month to make sure we have no orphans. Also, we keep a week of daily snapshot on disk and do mostly all are restore fr

Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
andon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault? Hello, We have a lot of trouble with the conventional NDMP backup of our NetApp system with TSM. So we are considering alternatives. We currently have snapshots enabled on our NetApp, but I was wondering whether it is realistic to completely depe

Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-11 Thread Richard Rhodes
:Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault? Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Hi Nora, We are leaving NetApp because of this. NetApp cost way too much and there is so many other vendors that does everything much better and more and for less . But

Re: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-11 Thread Christian Svensson
: Nora [mailto:tsm-fo...@backupcentral.com] Sent: den 11 november 2013 13:09 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault? Hello, We have a lot of trouble with the conventional NDMP backup of our NetApp system with TSM. So we are considering alternatives

Can you abandon conventional NDMP backups for SnapVault?

2013-11-11 Thread Nora
Hello, We have a lot of trouble with the conventional NDMP backup of our NetApp system with TSM. So we are considering alternatives. We currently have snapshots enabled on our NetApp, but I was wondering whether it is realistic to completely depend on NetApp SnapVault for backup of the data on

Re: SV: TSM NDMP separate data and tape server

2013-06-10 Thread Grant Street
According to the NDMP spec you can have a separate Data and tape server, what I was looking for was a way that the netapp could be the NDMP tape server with locally attached tapes and another server be the NDMP Data server with TSM keeping track of the meta data. This is called a Three-Way

Re: Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-10 Thread Michael Roesch
Hi everyone, thank you for your input, especially Jeff White for his very detailed message :-) So it seems like, some have NDMP working and some don't and now I'm not sure which road to take. Independently from which way you go (NDMP, SnapDiff,...), are 2 drives sufficient for tha

Re: Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread David Bronder
We finally gave up on NDMP entirely. We replaced it with NetApp's SnapVault solution. Friendlier for the service owner to use, and managing it all became Not My Problem. When we did use NDMP with TSM, I zoned all the drives to the filers (shared the drives with TSM and two arrays), but

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Skylar Thompson
685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine On 06/07/13 09:16, Shawn DREW wrote: > To paraphrase Churchill, NDMP is the worst form of NAS backups, except for > all the others.. > > I keep testing snapdiff with every new TSM client and/or ONTAP update. It's > just not as r

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Shawn DREW
To paraphrase Churchill, NDMP is the worst form of NAS backups, except for all the others.. I keep testing snapdiff with every new TSM client and/or ONTAP update. It's just not as reliable as NDMP for me. Bottom line is that if you can't handle the periodic full-scan backups (like

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Schneider, Jim
--Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of white jeff Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:05 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Planning for NDMP backup Hi Michael I believe the backups can be stored on either disk or tape, but i only ever

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Cameron Hanover
If you have a NetApp, is there any particular reason you're not using snapdiff? My experiences with NDMP are all bad. Troubles with reclamation, troubles with creating copy pools, having to cancel backups, reclamation and backup stg because the recovery log was getting way too

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Shawn DREW
ginal Message- > From: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:51 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [ADSM-L] Planning for NDMP backup > > Hi everyone, > > we're planning on implementing a TSM server that also does backu

Re: TSM NDMP separate data and tape server

2013-06-07 Thread Shawn DREW
He is talking about a "3-way" NDMP backup introduced with NDMP v2. It lets you use a second file server as a remote storage agent. File Server 1 --> LAN --> File Server 2 --> Local/SAN attached tape drive. The following thread discusses it, but I never got it working and I

Re: Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread white jeff
Hi Michael I believe the backups can be stored on either disk or tape, but i only ever use tape. This is mainly due to the size of the backups, ours range between 1tb - 25tb. If on disk, that's a lot of disk! For the server that ran the NDMP backups, we always had at least 2 drives defin

Planning for NDMP backup

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Roesch
Hi everyone, we're planning on implementing a TSM server that also does backup NetApp Filers and we've run into a few questions. Hope that you can help me with these. 1. Is it possible to store the NDMP backups on disk or is only tape possible? 2. If only tape, how many drives are r

SV: TSM NDMP separate data and tape server

2013-06-07 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Grant, What do you mean? You can backup a NetApp direct to Tape but still keep track in TSM. /Christian -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Grant Street [mailto:gra...@al.com.au] Skickat: den 5 juni 2013 08:59 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM NDMP separate data and tape server Hi I

TSM NDMP separate data and tape server

2013-06-04 Thread Grant Street
Hi I just want to confirm, my research Can you have the NDMP Data Server on a Windows server backing up to a the Tape server on a Netapp using TSM? I know a Netapp can be a DATA and TAPE server in one but according to the NDMP Definitions you should be able to separate them. Thanks Grant

NDMP incremental backup

2013-05-29 Thread Meuleman, Ruud
Hi All, Does anybody knows if it is already is possible to make incremental NDMP backup with TSM, beside full and differential backup? Is it possible to set environment variables base_date and dump_date from a TSM server and making incremental backup? Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman

SV: Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration

2013-01-02 Thread Christian Svensson
backup with X Weeks Management Class and another full backup with Z days Management Class that you also can continue with Diff backups. Another issue is that if you are going to backup to Disk then will NDMP allocate the size of the partition and not the amount of data to backup. If you have a

Re: Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration

2013-01-02 Thread Huebner, Andy
, December 27, 2012 4:41 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks Remco. ( and saves me the trouble of putting in another RFE!) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:AD

Re: Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration

2012-12-27 Thread Prather, Wanda
: Re: [ADSM-L] Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration Hi, I once raised an RFE for managing diffs separately from the fulls. Unfortunately the answer is NO. workaround: use multiple nodenames and make fulls on both nodenames and diffs only with one yes a pita and a waste of tapes... if only

Re: Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration

2012-12-27 Thread Remco Post
. 2012, at 18:05, "Prather, Wanda" wrote: > Need some help from folks doing "external" NDMP dumps, where TSM triggers the > dump but it's done by the NAS device across the fibre to pool defined as > TYPE=NDMPDUMP, not a standard TSM storage pool. > > Have

Help with NDMP dump & diff expiration

2012-12-27 Thread Prather, Wanda
Need some help from folks doing "external" NDMP dumps, where TSM triggers the dump but it's done by the NAS device across the fibre to pool defined as TYPE=NDMPDUMP, not a standard TSM storage pool. Have a customer installing an EMC (VNX) NAS which will store multiple millions

Re: Calculate PVUs for NDMP-backups

2012-12-12 Thread Maurice van 't Loo
According to: http://www.spec.org/sfs2008/results/res2012q1/sfs2008-20120201-00205.htmlthere are two E8400 dual-cores, so I'll guess 400 PVU's. But it's better to contact IBM Sales for this. Regards, Maurice van 't Loo http://mvantloo.nl/ 2012/12/11 Hans Christian Riksheim > Hitachi 3090

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