On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> other than trying every itiration possible (sum over histories of
> software?), i'm not getting the reason why glendix is a good idea.
>
for me, it's the same thing over and over again. drivers.
ron
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Latchesar Ionkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there are more people working on stop-gap solutions than drivers so I
> wonder how long we'll have to wait for the drivers to be written :)
given the increasing use of binary blobs, maybe forever.
ron
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there anyone out there who's gonna be in Volos and wants to participate
> in a driver-writing BOF?
>
I'm not gonna make it, but it's an interesting idea.
What would be more useful, possibly, is a tutorial on how to write a
driver,
Those of us who can't make it could volunteer to be on irc during the
sessions, modulo timezone issues (that's what coffee is for).
ron
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Mathieu Lonjaret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here.
> I haven't written any serious code in a long time but I'd be very
> interested at least in a tutorial on how to write a file server, or the
> basics steps to write a driver.
>
If you are all planning to do t
if we had common hardware it might be easier. You can get via c800
boards for $99.
Maytbe you can get a bundle and include the cost in the workshop.
Spend a day hacking on drivers. It ought to be a day.
ron
for greece?
ron
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Date: Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:57 PM
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For anyone looking to develop with the VIA C7 + CN700 + VT8237
Just as a test we recently backed up my son's home directory from his
macbook to venti.
Some random tool had dropped a symlink somewhere down in his directory
that pointed to /. Result was that all 60G went to venti.
Since that time, the machine has not been happy. Looking at it, the
hard disk is
run it under strace and send output.
ron
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Kenji Arisawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> "test" command of plan 9 has a operator "older", the usage is:
>test f -older t
> where f is a file and t is a time.
> however the command does not have "newer" operator.
> why?
>
If a < b, and you want
This was going into greece but I am not going and they aren't either so:
/n/sources/contrib/rminnich/tracepaper/trace.ps
The modified 8l described in the paper is also in that directory. If
you want the trace dev let me know.
Code was aki, ron, and john.
Comments are welcome.
Thanks
ron
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Gorka Guardiola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A real pity none of you are coming :-(.
>
it's a bad time of year: Supercomputing is around this time. It was
just a bit more travel than most of us could pull off.
Have a good time. I still want to come visit your lab
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:03 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't yet have any kind of P9 system, so no access to sources. Can I get a
> copy of the ps file?
>
If you have a 32-bit machine, you have vx32, and can boot plan 9 in
about 2 seconds (literally). Take a look, it's great!
ron
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is very cool. When will the source for the trace device itself
> become available?
>
we hope soon.
ron
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:49 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i've been having a problem with nulls popping up
> in the middle of emails for some time. normally,
> this isn't something one would notice but imap4d
> makes nulls in email extra annoying by sending the
> client 4 reform
Ruda, go ahead and have a go at putting your key sequence into rio.
You may find it pretty easy to do ...
ron
simliar story here, lost disk, lost data. In this case because I made
a mistake.
I've been wondering -- how much of your file systems are you using out there?
Seems to me that one could build a fanless wonder with a small via
embedded system and USB sticks -- 3 of them -- as the disks, running
in
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:54 PM, MartÃn Ferrari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:55, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you understand quite well really, I think you
>> are further up the learning curve than you think.
>
> Well, it seems that I wasn't so
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:05 PM, andrey mirtchovski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i hope to have relayed the original idea: give "friendly users" some
> access to your resources.
yes, there was a long running discussion of this with presotto,
andrey, acki, me, who else? years ago.
We never resol
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Giacomo Tesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list!
>
> I'd like to build a server to install a virtualized grid with Plan 9, using
> XEN.
> (The dom0 will be a Debian)
>
>
> Here: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/OSCompatibility
> Plan 9 support for domU installat
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> virtualization is fine. But my recommendation is that you use lguest
>> or kvm -- not xen. Xen is painful to set up and run.
>>
>> ron
>
> Any problem with intel x86_64?
> I knew lguest could guest linux only!
>
lguest supports plan 9
I hope we get lots of pictures from all of those at Volos!
thanks
ron
it's a good deal .. IIRC 5 years of support and a LOT of equipment
money (relative to the usual grad student budget I mean)
The Department of Energy Computational Science Graduate Fellowship
(DOE CSGF) application is now available online at:
https://www.krellinst.org/doecsgf/application/
The dea
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:50 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>> > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another
>> > > important one is sharing. Withou
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But now I'm curious how executables and shared libraries are
> actually handled on plan9.
>
what's a shared library?
Executables:
/sys/src/9/
Check it out, it's short and sweet.
ron
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I still remember this science fiction movie from when I was a kid.
>
> which one was that? it sounds more interesting than mmap.
>
>
I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
walk through a fr
This courtesy of the ACPI spec: ""RSD PTR " (Notice that this
signature must contain a trailing
blank character.)"
So where do we get the guys who design this stuff? Can we send them
back? Or put them in an infinite loop in a time machine (oh wait see
the subject).
ron
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a TODO page on the wiki which might give you some ideas.
>
> The two pieces of unfinished business that spring to my mind
> are the Centrino driver and the ssh V2 client, both started by
> Russ.
contrib/install fgb/
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> when somebody tries to stop a process that is waiting for the IO the process
> doesn't get transferred to a Stopped state immediately but only when
> the scheduler sees it for the first time. This leads to a pro
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
> you saw the
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attempts to live boot Plan 9 on the same machine fail because
> some 9wacko believes CD-ROM drives must be secondary master or
> something--and I won't move a jumper to suit a 9wacko's whim; not that I've
> ever been asked
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading
>>> on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing
>>> that I wanted to implem
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A standalone statically linked binary is going to be considerable larger
> while
> in flight over data links.
>
ah yes well maybe.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mtelnet> ls -l `which emacs`
-rwxr-xr-t 1 root root 4587528 2006-06
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/clms]# ls -l `which vim`
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1221212 Oct 15 2006 /usr/local/bin/vim
>
>
>
> C:\Program Files (x8
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Eris Discordia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> yes, I agree, I was being terribly unfair to plan 9. Acme on plan 9 is
>> about 1/2 M. Vim on DOS is 3x larger? impressive.
>
> My intent was, of course, to show your comparison is baseless. It seems you
> still haven't r
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know one thing: every major operating system I have ever heard of
> leverages shared libraries. Can all those people be wrong? I don't think so.
I know one thing. Every major operating system in the late 1960s
"knew" th
Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. .
All credit to jmk, ericvh, and charles for this fantastic test run and
the existence of this new kernel.
Plan is to double it just a few times until we hit 65536 or so. Then
the fun begins: turning on all cores, so we get to
262144 cpus.
Boo
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really cool! Are you going to talk about this @SuperComputing?
I was going to talk to a bof but they did not accept the paper:
"Running one million things". Somehow the schedulers had more cred.
ron
you have to love comcast. They just blocked my port 25 incoming. A
quick search around the net reveals they are jerking people around
regularly on this issue.
The weird part: at last one person claims the blocking is done in the
cable modem, and can be resolved by just getting a new modem.
Does t
FUSE won. It's easy, it works, and it has cross-platform support (macos/linux).
9p is not going to replace fuse now, if ever, on these systems.
That's not to say that 9p goes away. But it's not worth worrying about
whether FUSE will have more users -- it already has and it probably
always will.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fuse has a lot of quirks and doesn't inspire confidence.
Which hasn't stopped most of the software I am abused by -- er, use --
from achieving world dominance :-)
ron
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you talking about this:
> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FuseProtocolSketch
That's just kernel to user on same machine. What goes over the wire?
> And FUSE, as I realize now, seems to fit the bill
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The most ironic thing of all is that one would expect a company which
> stood behind a technology like ZFS to easily appreciate that. Especially
> since we've always had a userland ZFS. And especially now, that
> we are
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:03 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i have offered to host in athens, ga. home of coraid,
> the university of georgia, and almost never any snow.
> we're just outside atlanta.
>
I like it being near a major airport, and atlanta is a very common
one-stop
we want to avoid the mistake I made at the last linuxbios meeting --
attaching it to an expensive conference. keep it cheap.
ron
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and
> i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway,
> the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected
> by armando) to a node o
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:58 AM, simplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone tried this?
>
> http://www.opensparc.net/
>
>
I've been wanting to ... no time.
Somebody should however. It's quite neat.
ron
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite
> unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make
> a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order
> for the notes to b
cpu is just great tutorial.
notes forwarder, well, I am stil unsure.
ron
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have at least three different attempts at solving that: 9P2000.u,
> Skip's Text/Rext and a "parallel tree" approach, but no consensus(*)
>
four. My original v9fs added 3 ops for supporting symlinks and
hardlinks.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (Wasn't the disaster of adding .u to p9p a clear enough indication of
> how hopeless that path is?)
no. It just showed that the .u path was wrong. Adding extra ops?
Worked well for me for years, it was easy and simple.
If your
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:04 PM, andrey mirtchovski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't remember if the solution for note sending across machines was
> novel. I seem to remember that in this case processes were addressed
> by node/pid.
>
>
I've got it somewhere, will rummage around.
ron
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If corporate acceptance is the new measure of success, maybe we
> should be using an XML based protocol extension.
Corporate acceptance was always the measure of success. it's the old
measure. And it works, unless you don't ne
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks john, i would like to send simple programs (jobs) to the nodes
> (diskless cpu server) of a 9grid from terminal, and get responses from
> them. How can i do it?
>
suppose you have a list of nodes
cpu% NODES=(a b c d)
cpu% echo
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:11 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What if you for whatever reason want a ps to show all the proces on
>> all the nodes you're running on.
>>
>> for (i in $NODES) {
>> import -a $i .com /proc /proc
>> }
>
> what's the .com for?
>
it's when I forgot to ta
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the trivial solution on your hardware would be to partition
> the pid space, wouldn't it. just have 64bit pids? let each
> machine start at a 1<<32 boundary?
Sure. But you have to change the pid type in the kernel and
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:11 PM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> I have two measurements of success:
>> a) what keeps me working on Plan 9 related technologies in a paid position
>> b) what switches people f
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An Intel Atom D945GCLF mini ITX was reccomended to me, I believe
> it is all supported by plan9 and draws very little power. I was
> going to use one to replace a large noise server I have at home.
>
> They also have a new du
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2008, at 8:58 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>> They're utterly different, at every level. Yes, they give you a
>> similar service, but ...
>
> Whoa! That's a pretty strong claim
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That's just a taste. They're really very very different.
>
> May Glenda bless the IBM-induced standard wisdom.
So the IBM standard wisdom is that NFS and 9p are really very very
different (actually that was my quote)?
But yes,
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yeah, there's going to be a slew.
> We should all go get beer and BBQ or some such variant.
>
we'll have a stew for the slew, phew!
ron
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:33 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> they have funny names for it all.
> and they're missing the worm part.
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/305740/
>
> - erik
>
>
I found this amusing: 'Every operation on an object must be
accompanied by a "capability," a crypto
The OSD stuff has been going on for almost 10 years or more. Started
in 1996 or so at CMU.
Original design was to run the stack in the disk drive. This explains
a lot. I could not get them to look at 9p either.
ron
"And of course, with the birth of the artist came the inevitable
afterbirth - the critic." --Mel Brooks, History of the World Part I.
ron
new word, inspired by this:
stupedifying
in the sense of stupid, stupefying, and edifying in all one blow.
I googled it and now feel much less creative.
ron
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
>
>>> hget is different from most other programs of its kind.
>>
>> depends what you mean by "its kind".
>
> command line d
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:17 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i think it is a bit easier. the plan 9 kernel is simplier.
> but that's beside the point. plan 9 network does more
> with less than bsd. /net is more expressive than sockets.
> the dial interface is quite elegant. pla
it would be nice to take the existing usb code -- which is all user
mode code -- and get hot plug working,such that I could pop
mice,keyboards, disks, etc in at will and have the right bits all
start/stop when such events happen.
I think this is a good project as it is self-contained, a good intro
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry , how do I install it?
>
This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
I started fumbling around something like this:
term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
term% cd sys/src
term% ls
term% cd alef
term% ls
term% mk
I wonder if the qemu arm sim would work for these. Also, how much
changes in the cortex? Rumor has it that next-gen laptops will be
cortex-based.
ron
gumstix still look like the winner then
ron
I used libixp to import plan 9 file systems on bg/p to linux host.
Don't see any reason it won't work in the other direction.
I like it. It is even thread safe now.
ron
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The automounter is symptomatic of an ill that Plan 9 has cured.
> Since adding to the name space requires no special privileges,
> ordinary users can mount the servers they want to use directly,
The other reason for an automount
so if you are using 9p and servers, where does java come in ? Why to
you care what language it is?
ron
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:33 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Very true, the only exception to this I know of is some of the modern
>> Dual PCIExpress cards which use a bus in each direction.
>>
>
> do you have a reference for "dual pciexpress"? as far as i know,
> pcie/agp/pci c
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To a first approximation, no one reads directly from video memory.
That is certainly true, but it's been a concern for some time for GPU
computing, and the chipset folks are paying attention.
ron
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Paul Lalonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But random access patterns suck at being speculatively cached.
> Linear access patterns still require reasonably careful work for the caching
> to do the right thing.
> Expecting your entire frame buffer to be cached in L2 i
If somebody wants to put together a test I can run it.
Test is simple: set up 10K ioprocs on plan 9 and have 10K machines
beat at it with http GET requests. Each ioproc is processing the GETs,
but they are communicating via channels to an http server. This is
roughly a model of what stuff like lib
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel wrote:
> Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/.
OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions
being left by these kinds of comments.
The backport John did is to the standard kernel that you all can get
on your
For no reason that I can see I am now getting this message via a dialogue box:
Packagekit Error
Failed to reset get-updates
Then a little box I can tick for more data.
Here's where it really gets good:
A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
message to this recipient, se
so here's a potentially interesting idea. Since you are running plan 9
under Linux with 9vx, consider using the TAU toolkit to measure it.
http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/research/tau/home.php
we've used these tools to optmize an MPI library and they are quite powerful.
See what you think.
ron
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> * Porting devtrace. Needs some changes to compile with gas; the
> #pragmas are useless, but I think should work after a little more
> tweaking.
note that those pragmas are the tip of the iceberg.
gcc inserts the profiling code; on Plan 9,
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> In fact, Ron, now that you've mentioned it -- I'm going to try the PerfAn
> on 9vx myself ;-) And here's the question for you: how representative
> the behavior of 9vx is supposed to be of the regular Plan9 kernel?
I don't know but the c
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Nolan Hamilton
wrote:
> Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my
> DS10L. Can anyone help?
>
I can help the DS10L.
1. open window
2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas
3. slide DS10L out window
now that was easy!
Of cou
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM, wrote:
>> I can help the DS10L.
>>
>> 1. open window
>> 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas
>> 3. slide DS10L out window
>
> Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks
> portability?
>
The Alpha is dead. It never ran 64-bit anyway. What
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:08 AM, sqweek wrote:
> Yes, uriel's manner is abrasive, and it gets old listening to him
> make the same complaints over and over.
>when uriel perceives an inhibitor to plan 9's growth and development,
>uriel raises his voice (because no one else will!).
The interesti
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM, wrote:
>Ron needed the
> software and Ron got it, whatever it took him to achieve this. Can
> you spot the difference?]
It's a bit more than that: I saw a need starting in 2000, with the
initial open source release; I gave talks to anyone who would listen
in DO
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:50 PM, sqweek wrote:
> You're not in much
> of a position to mock if you download code marked proof of concept
> expecting it to be production ready...
You must not read this list as much as I thought :-)
ron
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
> I would just seek to the end.
> That's fine unless you have multiple
> programs writing O_APPEND simultaneously,
> in which case you are asking for trouble.
>
yep. The code in nfs clients to support O_APPEND is a wonder to
behold. A nicer combina
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> it's got x86 post codes on the front panel!
>
but 3 digits right? 50% more POST!
ron
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Its fun, yes. But I believe this is more of a testament to the statelessness
> of the NFS
> plus the fact that the "end of file" is not a well defined offset (unlike
> beginning of
> the file).
>
no, it's even worse with stateful systems
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:26 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Its fun, yes. But I believe this is more of a testament to the
>>> stateless
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
>> client by definition knows more than the server.
>
> i assume you mean "knows less"? the server knows where EOF is and
> which files to enforce append-only on. your #1 seems to only exist
> because the client doesn't have that info.
in st
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Two questions:
> 1. But before I ask this one: I don't deny that per-file append-only
>is *extremely* useful. My question is a different one: what is
>the danger of N clients accesing the file X in append-only mode
>and M c
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
> So far, I see the following choices for myself:
> * follow what v9fs does and emulate it with llseek(...SEEK_END). Not
> ideal,
> since it doesn't always guarantee POSIX sematics, but way better
> than nothing.
and it won't
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> if that -1 would be seen on the wire
>
> no. it's just a flag to select the code path that provides the offset,
> and entirely internal (just as well).
>
>
I figured as much. Oh well. Sorry, Roman.
ron
I'm getting about one of these a second.
cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x440007 0xe0032d 0x10f5b80
cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x4407ff 0x7e80369 0x110fa48
cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x4407ff 0xffe803e1 0x10f5b68
cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x440007 0xe0032d 0x10f5b80
cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x4407ff 0x7e80369 0x110fa4
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> cleanTD 3/0: Error 0x1 0x4407ff 0xffe803e1 0x10f5b68
>> ...
>> cleanTD 4/0: Error 0x1 0x4407ff 0x7e80469 0x110fc28
>>
>> so it's a USB thing but is there a meaning?
>
> Context? Have you just inserted or removed someth
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>> http://www.glomationinc.com/
>
> i have adopted the 'technologic ts-7200':
>
> http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7200
>
> it runs netbsd, i have not started any plan9 work
>
ah. I should locate my half-assed pla
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Benjamin Huntsman
wrote:
> I know most everyone here hates the Itanium, but it is in some pretty large
> and fast systems, and it's on the Top500 list.
if you mean thunder, that machine is getting turned off soon. What new
machines have made it on top500? Sorry I
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