Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-13 Thread John Floren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/13/2011 12:24 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: > > [snip] > >> If you only have one computer available and have to dual-boot, you can >> actually do pretty good with a simple, stan

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-13 Thread John Floren
At Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:37:52 -0700 (MST), Duke Normandin wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: > > > I think you mentioned in another message that you have a headless box > > available; I recommend temporarily hooking that up to a monitor, > > keyboard, a

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-13 Thread John Floren
On 1/13/2011 7:42 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: > >> At Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:37:52 -0700 (MST), >> Duke Normandin wrote: >>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: >>> >>>> I think you mentioned in another messag

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-13 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: > >> On 1/13/2011 7:42 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: >> >> > What is Venti again? >> >> Venti is the archival storage for Plan 9. Basically, new files and >&g

Re: [9fans] sound, graphics, tuner

2011-01-15 Thread John Floren
uencies (EADGBE)... this is the lazy man's way to do it, but it would be a way to test it at first, at least. If I wanted to make it fancy and graphical, I'd have a horizontal line, bisected in the center by a vertical line representing the target frequency, then draw another moving vertical line to represent the current frequency. John

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

2011-01-16 Thread John Floren
ptop, although (all together now) I never got sound working. And of course the battery has given up the ghost; right now, it's sitting with its lid closed acting as a Linux web/ssh server--although my netbook has terrible mouse buttons, especially for Plan 9, it wins out in terms of weight and battery life. The screen and keyboard on the Thinkpad are far superior, of course. John

Re: [9fans] 9doom

2011-01-16 Thread John Floren
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: > Does anyone have a copy of the 9doom code they could put up on > contrib? > > > Did it ever get to a playable point? Of course, even if it wasn't playable, the source should be instructive. John

Re: [9fans] is this crazy?

2011-01-16 Thread John Floren
/tim-and-eric-awesome-show-great-job/cinco-fone.html > > ron > > The best part is that the cinco phone is basically just a pulse-dialed system, like rotary phones... but those of us in the target demographic for Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job haven't had much opportunity to know those so the joke works better :) John

Re: [9fans] how to make hardware work?

2011-01-17 Thread John Floren
primary languages today. Used to program windows > applications on C++ (shame on me). > > The documentation is on the wiki, such as it is, and in the 9fans archives. Working with Plan 9 as your desktop OS can be a challenge, but it's also rewarding. Good luck! John

Re: [9fans] how to make hardware work?

2011-01-17 Thread John Floren
d it sounds great. > > Nick > Playback, recording, and volume changing all work? If so, I may just order one tonight. John pgp6MZf0aKTYm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread John Floren
ough, which is a major benefit, and it netboots just fine. As Erik pointed out elsewhere in the thread, the Overo chips are NOT fast but hey, it's a Plan 9 terminal. Except when you're compiling ghostscript (ugh), you'll probably never notice. John

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

2011-01-28 Thread John Floren
it take to get USB phone tethering working? (My new x201 should be in my hands soon, once all the bureaucracy gets through messing with it. Looking forward to trying Plan 9). John At Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:43:27 -0800, Akshat Kumar wrote: > > I've tried Thinkpad models X200s, X201, and X

Re: [9fans] HELP: recoving important header file rudely clobbered by mk

2011-01-29 Thread John Floren
s. If you can run "fossil/conf /dev/sdC0/fossil" and post the results here, we'll be able to tell, or you can run the command and examine the results for yourself based on the fossilcons man page. If you haven't spent too much time configuring your system, or put too much on it that cannot be backed up, and if you have a large enough disk (20 GB should be plenty unless you're storing large files or music/video), you might want to try re-installing and choosing the fossil+venti option. This will give you the archival dump storage, which can be really nice. John

Re: [9fans] HELP: recoving important header file rudely clobbered by mk

2011-01-29 Thread John Floren
t have DMA on, your Venti dumps will take hours. I found that after ripping a few CDs, the 4 a.m. scheduled dump would still be going on at noon. "echo dma on > /dev/sdC0/ctl" will take care of that, put it in your termrc/cpurc to enable it at every boot. John

Re: [9fans] HELP: recoving important header file rudely clobbered by mk

2011-01-31 Thread John Floren
Writing a newbie guide is a newbie rite of passage :) John On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > have you checked the wiki? > > http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Documentation/ > > there are tons of articles on Using this or that, a recomme

Re: [9fans] Modern development language for Plan 9, WAS: Re: RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

2011-02-03 Thread John Floren
familiar with it, and 3. It's very efficient. For similar reasons, C + MPI is also quite popular. John

Re: [9fans] FORTRAN and tools [was: Modern development language for Plan 9

2011-02-03 Thread John Stalker
; and similar things, but I would prefer to port something to HPD9 that > is a little more substantial. I want to couple various other models > like plant growth and survivorship, economics, etc. > >EBo -- > -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] Plan9 CPU server

2011-02-11 Thread John Floren
chine, *in general*, you want to add some stuff to /lib/ndb/local. If your cpu/auth server is called gridserver, the computer you want to connect *from* should have entries something like this: auth=gridserver authdom=yourauthdomain sys=gridserver dom=gridserver.yourauthdomain ip= Then you can do cpu -h gridserver. Hope this helps John

Re: [9fans] Plan9 CPU server

2011-02-14 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Nyan Htoo Tin wrote: > On Feb 12, 1:22 am, j...@jfloren.net (John Floren) wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Nyan Htoo Tin wrote: >> > Hi all, I've successfully tried plan9 on qemu/virtualbox. >> > But I don't underst

Re: [9fans] Modern development language for Plan 9, WAS: Re: RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

2011-02-18 Thread John Floren
ke resources > away from you. On the other hand, how many optimizations have been put into the Plan 9 kernel recently? If Linux adds 100 optimizations a year, I bet at least a few of them are going to actually improve things. Is it better to have optimized and failed than never to have optimized at all? John

Re: [9fans] Modern development language for Plan 9, WAS: Re: RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

2011-02-18 Thread John Floren
it being used in LAN environments. Yet 9P, which is not really that dissimilar for NFS in basic concept, gets presented as something we ought to be using over the Internet, for example to keep our systems updated. John

Re: [9fans] slightly on topic: pic preprocessor for drawing electronic circuits

2011-03-15 Thread John Floren
I used them to make a couple hand-held chording keypads. Convenient little beasts. John On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > Sounds cool. I'm using AVRs in the jeep fit out for the expedition. > Anyone else here playing with these chips? > > brucee > > On

Re: [9fans] New venti install won't boot after 05:00 crash

2011-03-17 Thread John Floren
After the initial install, did you reboot pretty soon? Venti wants to spend some time writing an initial image after the first boot, it seems, and if you interrupt that you're in trouble On Mar 17, 2011 6:00 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > Subsequent to some discussion on this list, I decided to try setting

Re: [9fans] New venti install won't boot after 05:00 crash

2011-03-18 Thread John Floren
y this. A couple years ago this bit me... at least at that time, if you re-installed over an existing Plan 9 filesystem, it wouldn't actually re-format the partition. So I kept re-installing and finding my same old configuration files and stuff in my home directory. John

Re: [9fans] how can I set path

2011-03-24 Thread John Floren
bind -b /usr/glenda/inferno/Plan9/386/bin /bin 2011/3/24 流明 <34261...@qq.com>: > but i want to build inferno on plan9, i have to add > /usr/glenda/inferno/Plan9/386/bin to my default path. > how can i do that? > > >>From: Jacob Todd >>Subject: how can I set path >>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:23:09

Re: [9fans] troff macros for typesetting books/longer texts

2011-03-25 Thread John Floren
Well, I think it's more that Richard Stallman was so ridiculously in love with ITS's documentation system (which was pretty good for its time, I admit) that he decided to clone it for Unix. Could the bloat of GNU tools merely be a ploy by rms to force people into using info? :) Jo

Re: [9fans] troff macros for typesetting books/longer texts

2011-03-25 Thread John Floren
Evidence: http://jfloren.net/its-info.png That's a screenshot of Info running on an ITS system :) John On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:32 AM, John Floren wrote: > Well, I think it's more that Richard Stallman was so ridiculously in > love with ITS's documentation system (whic

Re: [9fans] How and where to submit a patch for acme?

2011-03-29 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, John A. Grahor wrote: > What form of diff and relative to what? > > Where to post? > > man 1 patch

Re: [9fans] How and where to submit a patch for acme?

2011-03-29 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:58:55 -0700 John Floren wrote: >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, John A. Grahor wrote: >> >>What form of diff and relative to what? >> >> >> >>Where to post

[9fans] Documentation Task Force

2011-03-30 Thread John Preston
o and it's awesome as hell! :D I'd love to contribute, but my coding skills aren't anywhere near the required level. On the other hand the DTF is something I can help out with (after reading the existing documentation, playing about with Plan 9, and perusing some source). - -- Yours Sin

[9fans] Installation woes

2011-03-31 Thread John Preston
ualBox or VMware Player working? I haven't tried any pre-built images as I would very much like to go through the installation process myself. - -- Yours Sincerely, John Preston Please note, that this message may be signed and/or encrypted with PGP (available from http://www.pgp.com/) or

Re: [9fans] kfs and cwfs comparison

2011-04-24 Thread John Floren
sible to dump or boot the machine. Is it possible to recover from this state? John

Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support

2011-04-29 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, ron minnich wrote: > we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 > > ron > > x201 tablet also works. John

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-29 Thread John Floren
things, except that when you double click on the space between two words ("foo bar"). Since you can't really click on a character, rather you can only click between two characters, it ends up selecting the word rather than the phrase. I personally think this is quite ok. John

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-06 Thread John Floren
wants to be Plan 9 messiah by porting [gcc/web browser] or writing drivers, makes grandiose plans, everyone points out the flaws in said plans which came about from not understanding Plan 9 yet, new guy disappears. John

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 IRL

2011-05-09 Thread John Floren
Certificate seems to have expired... On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > it is available here: > > https://www.rangboom.com > > beware it is a DSL link at the moment. > > -Skip > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Jack Norton wrote: >> Anybody remember Rangboom?  Well see he

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-12 Thread John Floren
He's talking about wine (spoiled grape juice), in a discussion which continues to go further afield with each passing message :) John On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these > days

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-17 Thread John Floren
ing a drawterm replacement in Javascript is not going to "downgrade" Plan 9. In fact, it would be rather useful--now when you're away from home, you can use somebody else's computer to connect to your CPU server and read your mail, for example. John

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

2011-05-17 Thread John Floren
#x27;s slashdot link was about :) John

Re: [9fans] Can we run Plan 9 on WD My Book Live [PowerPC] architecture?

2011-05-19 Thread John Floren
run Plan 9 > or plan9port on WD My Book Live [PowerPC] architecture? > > Many thanks, > ROuNIN > > The Blue Gene kernel is for PPC 44x, so support is at least partly available. John

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread John Floren
e at a high resolution. I had a dedicated dual PIII set up as a cpu/auth/file server running Fossil and Venti. I would run linuxemu on the AMD64 terminal, display through equis, and run Opera and Openoffice when I needed them. The biggest problem with this setup was that you cannot copy/paste between Plan 9 and the programs running under equis. If copy/paste is supported by Plan 9's VNC client, you could use that instead to solve the problem. John

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread John Floren
hat could be done by combining mouse actions with left-handed keystrokes. If only something simple like "Ctrl + rightclick deletes a window". John

Re: [9fans] in ed, how to do i do this?

2011-06-17 Thread John Floren
If you want to change: "in ed, how" to "in fred, how", do something like this: s/in ed/in fred/ John On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Fernan Bolando wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:04 PM, yy wrote: >> 2011/6/17 Fernan Bolando : >>> 1. insert a chara

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:23 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 > Dave The best part of these kind of threads is how they bring out all the people who we've never, ever seen post before--the "been meaning to try this Plan 9 thing" brigade, etc. John

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:42 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:47 PM, John Floren wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:23 AM, David Leimbach wrote: >>> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 >>> Dave &g

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on VIA C7

2011-07-10 Thread John DeGood
motor) computer fans can be similarly tamed by reduced voltage, or by PWM. John On 7/8/2011 5:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: > What you see strapped to it is a 12V fan from a dell desktop which I > ran at 5V, not 12V (a trick I learned from John DeGood). Very little > air had to move, it was

[9fans] odd problem with auth (?)

2011-07-12 Thread John Floren
h_proxy rpc write: bootes: port unreachable term% auth/debug p9sk1 key: proto=p9sk1 dom=mydom user=john !password? dialing auth server net!gozer!ticket cannot dial auth server: port unreachable csquery authdom=mydom auth=gozer term% I think something is screwed up with auth, but I&#x

Re: [9fans] odd problem with auth (?)

2011-07-12 Thread John Floren
I'm at lunch right now, but if "no ip in ndb" turns out to be the problem I will have to buy myself a big dunce cap. On Jul 12, 2011 11:16 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: >> My /lib/ndb/local contains these lines (gozer gets its IP from a >> different DHCP server): >> >> auth=gozer authdom=mydom >> >>

Re: [9fans] odd problem with auth (?)

2011-07-12 Thread John Floren
It's official--I'm an idiot. That was the problem, a simple ip=10.1.18.190 added to the gozer entry fixed it. John On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM, John Floren wrote: > I'm at lunch right now, but if "no ip in ndb" turns out to be the problem I > will have to buy

[9fans] encrypting 9P traffic

2011-07-27 Thread John Floren
x27;t do WPA, and I wouldn't trust Defcon's WPA network either in any case. Can anyone think of a problem with this plan, besides the fact that anyone sniffing packets will figure out that the owner of jfloren.net is quite probably in attendance? John

Re: [9fans] encrypting 9P traffic

2011-07-27 Thread John Floren
s gozer", fire up snoopy, and start reading some files--you'll see the plaintext of the files (and all the rest of the 9p messages) whizzing past. John

Re: [9fans] encrypting 9P traffic

2011-07-27 Thread John Floren
col for negotiating encryption, etc. > > --- > ** unless you count documentation like hardware vendors do.  "read the > source code". > > Import defaults to unencrypted, at least for me. Import and srv *should* default to TLS but it's not implemented. SSL is implemented for import but it's not the default. John

Re: [9fans] rc scripts in /386/bin/aux

2011-08-09 Thread John Floren
don't have recursive unions under Plan 9--we can either specifically bind every subdirectory of /rc/bin into /bin, or we can just stick the scripts into /386/bin/subdir/ John

Re: [9fans] mail client; general question web vs command

2011-08-11 Thread John Floren
Nice! Works for me too... But what about sending mail? I've only ever configured Plan 9 to act as its own smtp server, have never done anything with p9p or a remove server. John On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Fazlul Shahriar wrote: > I just tried -- it works fine with gmail. >

Re: [9fans] Intel atom system

2011-08-12 Thread John Floren
9atom, don't remember if we tried it with stock), cheaper ($75 at Frys, I think), and smaller (about 6"x6"). John

Re: [9fans] Plan9 and the real hardware

2011-08-14 Thread John Floren
first boot it will spend some time syncing fossil to venti. This will take anywhere between a few minutes (best case) and a few hours (if you have old hardware and don't have DMA and RWM turned on). Good luck! John

Re: [9fans] Help with two small shared file servers

2011-08-17 Thread John Floren
ad84a/documents/Thesis.pdf) for details, but I'd expect file transfers to be at least 6 times slower than transferring via HTTP. When I tested 9P vs. HTTP over connections with 25 ms latency (50ms RTT), I saw a 4x slowdown versus HTTP. Even at 15 ms RTT, transfers took twice as long. John

Re: [9fans] Help with two small shared file servers

2011-08-17 Thread John Floren
ion >> will probably scale up. >        ... >> Is 9p suitable for this? How will the 40ms latency affect 9p >> operation? (I have 100Mbit). > > With a strict request/response protocol you will get no more > than 64KB once every 80ms so your throughput at best will be &g

Re: [9fans] Help with two small shared file servers

2011-08-17 Thread John Floren
On Aug 17, 2011 10:40 PM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: > > slower than transferring via HTTP. When I tested 9P vs. HTTP over > > connections with 25 ms latency (50ms RTT), I saw a 4x slowdown versus > > HTTP. Even at 15 ms RTT, transfers took twice as long. > > did you do testing at regular lan latenci

Re: [9fans] 9ttp

2011-09-08 Thread John Floren
ly to efficiently read a file. Also, as far as I can tell, exactly one program (fcp) does that. Can a single process have multiple outstanding requests? My investigations indicated not, but then again I may have mis-read things. John

Re: [9fans] 9ttp

2011-09-08 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:56:10 PDT John Floren  wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:31 AM, erik quanstrom wrot= >> e: >> >> > On Thursday 08 of September 2011 14:54:40 erik quanstrom wrote: >> >>

Re: [9fans] plan9port: cocoa programmer needed

2011-09-14 Thread John Floren
ill be > happy to provide them. > > I just inherited a Macbook running Lion, so this is suddenly relevant to my interests. I'm very new to the world of OS X; could somebody put together a step-by-step on how to build for Lion? I've downloaded the plan9ports tarball, extracted it to /usr/local/plan9, and done an hg pull -u, but INSTALL dies with complaints from ld about a malformed TOC entry in libbio.a. Also, further up, when it tries to build devdraw I see it failing because it still tries to make the Carbon version. John

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

2011-09-14 Thread John Floren
-64"? > >  - Leonard > We have discussed this. "Nixie" was a proposed new name, but for now we'd rather get the actual code and distribution right than worry about the name. John

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

2011-09-14 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:42:53 PDT John Floren  wrote: >> >> We have discussed this. "Nixie" was a proposed new name, but for now >> we'd rather get the actual code and distribution right than worry >>

Re: [9fans] Nemo book

2011-09-14 Thread John Floren
se we like our eyeballs. I think you're going to be pretty disappointed with the Plan 9 UIs, if you get around to booting it. John

Re: [9fans] Nemo book

2011-09-14 Thread John Floren
patible, although there's a rather decent Linux emulator. There is no GTK, no Qt, no Firefox, no modern C++ compiler. I think it's time for people to stop telling the "Plan 9 community" what its goals should be, when these people haven't even booted Plan 9. John

[9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
We would like to announce the availability of Inferno for Android phones. Because our slogan is "If it ain't broke, break it", we decided to replace the Java stack on Android phones with Inferno. We've dubbed it the Hellaphone--it was originally Hellphone, to keep with the Inferno theme, but then w

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
ferno running on it, hosted by Linux and displaying in X. The hard part would probably be talking to the cell radio. John On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: > Brilliant. > Any idea how much work it would be to adapt that for the nokia n900? > (runs maemo linux as native

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please! > > Unfortunately we can't use just any camera here at work... I'll see if I can get one of the officially blessed cameras, otherwise it'll ha

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
OS X, they'll both end up in a directory called "android". Here's how you can fix it: (run adb shell) # mkdir /data/inferno/Android # mv /data/inferno/android/arm /data/inferno/Android/ There may be other problems lurking, but I'm pretty sure all of the stuff Inferno needs is

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
ces are for the touchscreen, which are for the buttons emu/port/main.c and emu/Android/screen.c contain all the device-specific code, I think. If there is any justice, the radio interface will be the same--we talk to "rild", the radio daemon, rather than directly with the hardware. John On Fri

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
and you'll need to have adb in your path. You may also need to put "agcc" (provided in the repo) into your path in order to actually build Inferno. I believe README.android has a summary of how to build Inferno yourself down at the bottom. John On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Joh

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-16 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:24 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, John Floren wrote: > >> Installation is reasonably simple. You'll need the Android SDK >> (http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html), with the platform-tools >> package insta

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread John Floren
nder the battery fwiw. > > > There's not actually an SD card in the Nexus S, it's apparently just onboard flash made to look like one. John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please! > > Terrible video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_-jQc53jw Some screenshots are available at https://bitbucket.org/floren/inferno/wiki/Home John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-19 Thread John Floren
Inferno, without being connected to a PC. John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-19 Thread John Floren
, you probably won't have much luck with that one. See if there are any other Wank-ers that can run Android. John On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > Are there some clues about what is needed in a compatible phone? > Simply unlocked android or any other niggles? Th

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-21 Thread John Floren
ecall there are separate controls for audio coming from/going to the cell chip vs. audio that the user deals with. We have the cell audio working so you can make a phone call and talk to someone. We haven't built a /dev/audio yet, though, so there are no "notification" sounds. John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-26 Thread John Floren
That's the phone we used to develop, so yes. On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: > Hi All, > > Would this phone be able to run inferno? > > "Samsung Google Nexus S I9023 Unlocked GSM Android Phone With 4" > Touchscreen, Dual-Cameras, WiFi & More!" > > http://1salea

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-27 Thread John Floren
enSL ES example code. Anyone with experience in OpenSL is encouraged to submit patches; I'm feeling around in the dark here :-) John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-28 Thread John Floren
',' or ')' before '*' token > In file included from > /media/sdb1/inferno/floren-inferno/Android/arm/include/lib9.h:17, > I think I recognize this error. I will post more complete building instructions when I get to work. John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-28 Thread John Floren
a pretty way to do things, but it works. Once you make the change, if you intend to do a "repo sync" later, you'll need to change to the bionic directory and do a "git stash" to get rid of your changes, or else repo sync will fail. You can then change it back later. John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-28 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John Floren wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, 252608386 <252608...@qq.com> wrote: >> i build the floren-inferno with cyanogen-mod source code(htc hero) >> and i got the error,why? >> agcc -c -O -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

2011-10-01 Thread John Stalker
h can be downloaded again go in symlinked directories, to keep the rsync time manageable. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] Problem Installing Hellaphone on Nexus S

2011-10-17 Thread John Floren
problem and only coming up with emails saying "Yes, I figured this problem out, email me off-list and I'll tell you". John

Re: [9fans] Problem Installing Hellaphone on Nexus S

2011-10-17 Thread John Floren
l you that! When I actually went in and tested the original commands, sure enough it hung right where you said. Try the ones above and let me know how it works. John At Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:05:18 +0200, Jesper Vesterberg wrote: > > I started of with fixing cyanogenmod then i went on and thought i

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-11-04 Thread John Floren
https://negrielectronics.com/google-nexus-s-i9020a-white-8503g-unlocked.html On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: >> As of today, we have Inferno running on the Nexus S and the Nook >> Color. > > And naturally, the Nexus S has been discontinued.  At least, I can

Re: [9fans] Returning to Plan 9: Virtualization, Distributions

2011-11-22 Thread John Floren
ok on the way back from IWP9. I haven't tried it on the thinkpad yet. John

Re: [9fans] Returning to Plan 9: Virtualization, Distributions

2011-11-22 Thread John Floren
booting the nix kernel as well as the regular 32-bit ones--we're getting there! I guess there's no reason we *couldn't* do an install ISO... without modifications it would just give you a 32 bit environment with the Nix source available, and the selection of changes we've made. John

Re: [9fans] Returning to Plan 9: Virtualization, Distributions

2011-11-26 Thread John Floren
rtualbox after the install; you have to disable the CDROM device to make it boot. I think it was Virtualbox. John

Re: [9fans] Building Go on Plan 9

2011-12-01 Thread John Floren
orting efforts do we now have for Plan 9? There's apparently yours, Ron's, Lucio's, and I think the 9front guys have/had something cooking too. Which ones can actually be updated with "hg pull"? John

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-02 Thread John Floren
document using it. KerTeX is pretty neat, so if you want to write your thesis on Plan 9 it's a good option. John

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-02 Thread John Floren
gt; named TeXlive didn't seem to be the first choice in this case...) > Ah, I think that was due to me... I read http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3264341 and suggested that they take a look at kerTeX :) John

Re: [9fans] go v. mk

2011-12-04 Thread John Floren
, but he did write a tool that parses > configure/makefiles > and generates mkfilles > > What's it called? Where can I get it? Sounds pretty useful. John

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-12 Thread John Stalker
's easy to check each stage of the pipeline, and > I could work out where to look for the change to undo. > > If you're using troff, pick up a copy of refer from contrib. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-12 Thread John Stalker
ith make. Where TeX wins is in the actual typesetting of equations. That's one reason why I went back to LaTeX after using eqn|troff for a few months. The other reason is that using troff makes collaboration nearly impossible, as no one else is willing to use it. John -- John Stalker

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-12 Thread John Stalker
PostScript documents, but extreme trickery is needed to get them to produce fragments which can be inserted into hand rolled diagrams. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

[9fans] fun with replica and pull

2011-12-19 Thread John Floren
at the list of files it's afraid to overwrite, they're not anything I made modifications to (or at least, no important modifications). John

Re: [9fans] fun with replica and pull

2011-12-20 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, John Floren wrote: > I'd like to install Erik's nupas, but according to contrib/install, a > bunch of files have been modified locally, so it doesn't install them. > Then, if I try to do a contrib/pull, it believes the package is up to &g

Re: [9fans] KerTeX: e-TeX, CWEB and packaging!

2012-01-02 Thread John Floren
Voting Thierry for #1 poster of 2012 [so far] Looking forward to trying the new release! John On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, wrote: > Hello, > > A supplementary note for Plan9 users before reproducing the announce. > > I was testing the new version on Plan9 when the infa

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