He's talking about wine (spoiled grape juice), in a discussion which continues to go further afield with each passing message :)
John On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 20$ for a juice? I thought the dollar was already pretty high these > days? Seldom do I say this phrase but what the fuck! > > On 5/9/11, Wes Kussmaul <w...@authentrus.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 18:54 +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: >> >> >>> Just look for the origin: the verb is "sophistiquer"... The usage and >>> the dictionnaries are inconsistant, since "sophistiqué" (now used non >>> pejoratively) is the past participle of "sophistiquer" that is >>> definitively pejorative. (Look for "sophistiquement" too; all this comes >>> from philosophy where sophiste is not to be taken in good part)... >> >> >> This is where semantics encounters the "everybody's somebody's fool" >> principle. I hang out with people who pay $20+++ for a liter of spoiled >> grape juice. The more they pay the more their peers regard them as being >> sophisticated. People outside that culture would see that very same use >> of the term "sophisticated" as a pejorative. Sophistication is in the >> eye of the beholder. >> > >
