Jacob Todd wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:59:32AM +0200, Uriel wrote:
I'm sure the people in charge of writing the next version of the PoSix
standard will be very happy to adopt your proposal!
That is, if they have not independently 'discovered' this fantastic
solution to this horrible 'prob
roger peppe wrote:
i'm arriving Atlanta 19:10 on the 20th, leaving 21:45 on the 25th
in case anyone has similar times and wishes to share.
i'd be up for driving, assuming my UK driving license is sufficient.
cheers,
rog.
License should be no problem with any of the major rental agencies.
ron minnich wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, wrote:
The cortex-a8 arms are arm v7-a architecture. L2 page table
entries have changed format. The a8 includes trustzone, so
many registers have forked, producing a "secure" and a "nonsecure"
version of the register. The arm v7-a manual is
ron minnich wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM, W B Hacker wrote:
Anyone know if the AMD environment is any more 'open'?
way, way, more open. same with via. They regularly contribute chipset
source code to coreboot. That's my measure.
I hadn't paid much attention
ron minnich wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Dave Eckhardt wrote:
For something "nobody would want to do", there sure are a
lot of hits for "pcs750.bin".
It's the difference between "nobody would want to do it" and "we don't
want you do it" ;-)
ron
To me, the 'meat' of the issue is
erik quanstrom wrote:
Would you please start reading posts before replying to them? The
only thing I have proposed is that people stop gratituously creating
programs which treat empty lists exceptionally. If that is what you
mean by the paragraph above then I do try to implement it, and am
quit
Michaelian Ennis wrote:
http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/
$89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens.
ian
viamichelin.com puts it at 127 km, ~12 Euro for fuel, and 1hr 40 minutes.
Bill
Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote:
Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support?
Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use it
with?
ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome
onboard about 2+ years ago..
And the CD st
W B Hacker wrote:
Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote:
Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support?
Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to
use it with?
ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded
Unichrome onboard about 2+ y
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote:
Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use it
with?
ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome
onboard about 2+ years ago..
It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think* -
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
but by 1990 with microchannel &c. things were much more closed off.
i thought only one company ever really made microchannel,
and even they weren't terribly in earnest in the end,
except on non-PC things like RS6000.
IBM tried to recover control over the PC market b
erik quanstrom wrote:
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
but by 1990 with microchannel &c. things were much more closed off.
i thought only one company ever really made microchannel,
and even they weren't terribly in earnest in the end,
except on non-PC things like RS6000.
IBM tried to recover contro
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
wikipedia agrees with lucio on this point
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture#Marketshare_issues
The majority within IBM never wanted into that part of the market in the first
place, as it was seen as cannibalizing not only 3XXX terminal sales, bu
Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:15:59 +0800
W B Hacker wrote:
The only 'glue' needed was level-shifters - discrete transistors on my OSI
Challenger II, Motorola 1488 & 1489 diode-coupled-logic on everything up until
the 16XXX derivative of the 8250 was sucked
Richard Miller wrote:
It's easy to write good code that will take advantage of arbitrarily many
processors to run faster / smoother, if you have a proper language for the
task.
... and if you can find a way around Amdahl's law (qv).
http://www.cis.temple.edu/~shi/docs/amdahl/amdahl.html
Christopher Nielsen wrote:
I think this is an interesting approach.
There are several interesting ideas being pursued here. The focus of
the discussion has been on the multikernel approach, which I think has
merit.
Something that has not been discussed here is the wide use of DSLs for
systems p
ron minnich wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Sam Watkins wrote:
The "processors" (actually smaller processing units) would mostly be configured
at load time, much like an FPGA. Most units would execute a single simple
operation repeatedly on streams of data, they would not read instruc
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote:
From last week's ACM Technews ...
Why Desktop Multiprocessing Has Speed Limits
Computerworld (10/05/09) Vol. 43, No. 30, P. 24; Wood, Lamont
Despite the mainstreaming of multicore processors for desktops, not
every desktop application can be rewritten fo
erik quanstrom wrote:
i don't recall getting these before. this seems
like new behavior. i got 4 of these when downloading
4gb of pictures from a sd card. never in
the same place twice. sb600 ohci controller.
disk... reset: device is detached
it seems that umsrecover -> umsreset -> usbcmd a
erik quanstrom wrote:
On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol semantics. I think
we've managed to empty the coraid fridge of beer.
skip, sorry about that. we drank all your beer.
- erik
Tsk, Tsk,
..and here some of us th
David Leimbach wrote:
on the contrary... I have always equated the plan 9 crowd as the
"most punkrock" of the alternative OS crowd.
On 10/23/09, W B Hacker wrote:
erik quanstrom wrote:
On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone is busy drinking and debatin
Charles Forsyth wrote:
it's /rc/bin/ape/ls that would change, not Plan 9's ls-proper.
what does autoconf do with the `inode number'?
Haven't you heard of the elephant that escaped from a traveling circus and
wandered into the vegetable garden of a lady who had never seen an elephant in
her
Un*x, it's the people who recognise the power and simplicity who
are the fans,
not the academic dogmatists and fashionistas.
D
On 23 Oct 2009, at 15:06, David Leimbach wrote:
on the contrary... I have always equated the plan 9 crowd as the
"most punkrock" of the alternative O
roger peppe wrote:
2009/10/23 W B Hacker :
We can't 'ave two 9'ers actually *agree* on sumat!
i found it interesting that face to face there seemed to
be much more agreement than disagreement.
very constructive.
i've had a brilliant time.
ACK. Good to hear!
Human
Dmitry Golubovsky wrote:
On Oct 26, 9:21Â am, 23h...@googlemail.com (hiro) wrote:
Since the purpose of ape is to emulate the environment configure is
expected to run in, and such mismatch has been found, it migh be
easier to fix ape than to convince maintaners of autoconf to fix on
their side...
ron minnich wrote:
How about:
"Clouds: how we reinvented the time sharing bureau, which we all
hated, back in the day, and replaced with our own computers, and
recreated the time sharing bureau in our own company, and hated it,
and now our management has decided they hate us and want to fire our
Sam Watkins wrote:
- a factory's line can be brought to a standstill if one of its
elements breaks;
one would hope that software elements do not break so much
- a factory 's line is at least as slow as its slowest worker
a slow part of the line can be split / duplicated to use multiple work
Steve Simon wrote:
Sorry, not really the place for such questions but...
I always struggle with sed, awk is easy but sed makes my head hurt.
I am trying to capitalise the first tow words on each line (I could use awk
as well but I have to use sed so it seems churlish to start another process).
Eris Discordia wrote:
The script has a small "bug" one might say: it capitalizes the first two
words on a line that are _not_ already capitalized. If one of the first
two words is capitalized then the third will get capitalized.
Call me a Dinosaur, but - so long as it is ASCII or EBCDIC it is
Tim Newsham wrote:
Call me a Dinosaur, but - so long as it is ASCII or EBCDIC it is
relatively trivial to implement that in hardware AND NOT have the
issue of altering any but the first two words AND NOT have issues
where there is only one word or a numeral or punctuation or
hidden/control cha
Anthony Sorace wrote:
where's my ethernet mouse? ;-)
If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long
publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse.
'Questionable example', as I've never quite understood how I'd be able to hear
the output of a sound card whose physica
ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
The slowness of loading openssl probably has something to do
with it being bloatware on a par with ghostscript.
And the better alternatives to either are ?
Bill
Charles Forsyth wrote:
If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long
publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse.
it isn't plumbing, but export/import, and it's useful.
i had a usable sound system on my r3000 indigo, but my PC had none.
on the pc, i imported the indi
Anthony Sorace wrote:
erik wrote:
// how to troll like a pro!
see, i was paying attention!
bill wrote:
// ...a questionable example...
if you have a lab of terminals but only one or two have a working
sound card and speakers, it can make good sense.
I'm sure it did *at the time*...
But ha
erik quanstrom wrote:
'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive
ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make
a better present-day example.
the resource i want is generally particuarly scarce;
there is often just one devic
erik quanstrom wrote:
But it IS a bit frustrating to see drivers available in one F/OSS OS (or
variant) and not another, more especially as they are nearly always written in
reasonably portable 'C' code these many years.
that's easier said than done. Blocks are not the same as sk_bufs.
for th
Sam Watkins wrote:
VNC or similar "remote desktop" with sound support can be useful for things
like pair-programming over then internet, if you are working on an app or game
that uses sound.
Sam
VNC can (has been) be a butt-saver' - but pales in comparison to remote desktop
/ remote X for r
erik quanstrom wrote:
*snip*
useless observation:
it's fun to see the linux guys bragging about how their drivers are so
small. bsd drivers are typically half their size. plan 9 drivers are typically
half again as large. to be fair, plan 9 drivers typicall give up things like
tso.
- erik
Anthony Sorace wrote:
there's a group called Rosetta that came out of another meeting at the GSoC
mentor's summit for non-linux OS users (good meeting, although not quite as
amusing as the "Troll Like a Pro" session). the folks at the meeting all thought
their biggest problem was lack of driver s
Tim Newsham wrote:
or the cannonical example, a hard drive.
I intentionally avoided this one because two things that modern
OSs do know how to share (at least a little) are:
- filesystems
- printers
Its just all the other stuff that they haven bothered to tackle
yet, except in very specifi
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote:
linux is actually quite easy and has been for about 12 years or more
... not sure of the others.
I was running diskless Windows in 1995; it wasn't pretty, but it could
be done. These days you can run XP+ diskless if you have the right
Windows Server and
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* W B Hacker wrote:
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote:
linux is actually quite easy and has been for about 12 years or more
... not sure of the others.
I was running diskless Windows in 1995; it wasn't pretty, but it could
be done. These days you can r
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