I'm preparing to go to Defcon next week, and to help avoid getting
owned I'm planning to bring along a Plan 9 laptop. I'd like to be able
to mount, say, my home fileserver while I'm there, but 9P traffic goes
out unencrypted if you use "srv" rather than "import -E ssl". This got
me to fiddling with
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> Shouldn't import and srv just default to tls?
>
>
x61% import -E tls gozer / /n/gozer
import: gozer: tls has not yet been implemented
As far as I can tell, srv doesn't even have an encryption option. Do a
"9fs gozer", fire up snoopy, and
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Wed Jul 27 19:50:05 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
>> Shouldn't import and srv just default to tls?
>
> import, yes*. srv, no.
>
> - erik
>
> ---
> * thanks to its undocumented** protocol for negotiating encryption, etc.
>
> ---
> *
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Jacob Todd wrote:
>
> On Aug 9, 2011 6:30 PM, "erik quanstrom" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue Aug 9 18:26:01 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
>> the tradition has been to copy scripts into /$cputype/bin/$somesubdir
>> for every arch.
>>
> I've always been under the impress
Nice! Works for me too...
But what about sending mail? I've only ever configured Plan 9 to act
as its own smtp server, have never done anything with p9p or a remove
server.
John
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Fazlul Shahriar wrote:
> I just tried -- it works fine with gmail.
>
> mailfs -t im
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Ruckdashel wrote:
> i'm looking at building a system to get my plan9 tinkering out of VMs.
> I'm looking at using a zotac Ionitx-t-u mobo with a sata ssd. I'm
> curious if any one has tried this mobo. I'm trying to avoid having
> another linux box lying around.
>
>
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Bernd Maier wrote:
> I spend this weekend a lot of time in trying to get Plan9 to work
> on real hardware.
>
> My experience:
>
> I started with the plan9.iso. No look so far because the ahci
> driver
> seems not to be in the install kernel. 9load seems to find my
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote:
>
>> Can anyone shed some light on why I might want one and not the other?
>> Are there any other options?
>
> ken's fs is a kernel, and essentially gives you a 9p-accessible file storage
>
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:09:47 +0300 =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?=
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for advice on how to build a small network of two file
>> servers. I'm hoping most servers to be Plan9, clients are Windows and
>> Ma
On Aug 17, 2011 10:40 PM, "erik quanstrom" wrote:
> > slower than transferring via HTTP. When I tested 9P vs. HTTP over
> > connections with 25 ms latency (50ms RTT), I saw a 4x slowdown versus
> > HTTP. Even at 15 ms RTT, transfers took twice as long.
>
> did you do testing at regular lan latenci
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:31 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> > On Thursday 08 of September 2011 14:54:40 erik quanstrom wrote:
>> > > On Thu Sep 8 04:52:08 EDT 2011, 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> > > > HTTP is technically different and not easily comparable to 9p. HTTP is
>> > > > not a good exampl
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:56:10 PDT John Floren wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:31 AM, erik quanstrom wrot=
>> e:
>> >> > On Thursday 08 of September 2011 14:54:40 erik quanstrom wrote:
>> >>
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM, david jeannot wrote:
>> So I will send my code in the next few days,
>> unless there is a need.
>
> I'm 9 days late, but here it is: the Cocoa version
> of Devdraw. I just submitted it to Codereview:
>
> http://codereview.appspot.com/5015042
>
> I removed l
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:38 PM, s s wrote:
> Very nice.
>
> Are you sure you want to call it NIX, though?
>
> A google search for "nix kernel" returns a lot of unrelated results.
>
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=nix+kernel
>
> How about, "Plan-64"?
>
> - Leonard
>
We have discussed this. "Nix
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:42:53 PDT John Floren wrote:
>>
>> We have discussed this. "Nixie" was a proposed new name, but for now
>> we'd rather get the actual code and distribution right than worry
>>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:55 PM, s s wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Or use xpdf -rv
>> Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
>
> How come no one likes high-contrast-inverse themes?
>
>
Because we like our eyeballs. I think you're
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:41 PM, L N wrote:
>
>> ah, now I see :-)
>>
>> http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3117-1335_Skeleton_Behind_a_Business_Desk_clipart_image.jpg
>>
>> ron
>
> Maybe.
>
> The web-browser really is a deal-breaker, though.
>
> I really enjoyed reading a
We would like to announce the availability of Inferno for Android
phones. Because our slogan is "If it ain't broke, break it", we
decided to replace the Java stack on Android phones with
Inferno. We've dubbed it the Hellaphone--it was originally Hellphone,
to keep with the Inferno theme, but then w
OS, or an half-assed android -nitdroid-
> with some hackery.)
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:32 AM, andrey mirtchovski
> wrote:
>> this is cool!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:23 PM, John Floren wrote:
>>> We would like to announce the availability of Infe
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please!
>
>
Unfortunately we can't use just any camera here at work... I'll see if
I can get one of the officially blessed cameras, otherwise it'll have
to wait until tonight/the
all lowercase.
John
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, John Floren wrote:
> We would like to announce the availability of Inferno for Android
> phones. Because our slogan is "If it ain't broke, break it", we
> decided to replace the Java stack on Android phones with
> In
level,
>> named "android" and "Android". If you do an adb push from OS X,
>> they'll both end up in a directory called "android". Here's how you
>> can fix it:
>>
>> (run adb shell)
>> # mkdir /data/inferno/Android
>> # m
and you'll need to
have adb in your path. You may also need to put "agcc" (provided in
the repo) into your path in order to actually build Inferno. I believe
README.android has a summary of how to build Inferno yourself down at
the bottom.
John
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Joh
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:24 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, John Floren wrote:
>
>> Installation is reasonably simple. You'll need the Android SDK
>> (http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html), with the platform-tools
>> package insta
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 09:29 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
>> If I can figure out where to plug in an SD card -- it claims to
>> have one! -- I might just give that a go.
>
> The MicroSD slot in my Droid X is hidden under the battery fwiw.
>
>
>
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please!
>
>
Terrible video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_-jQc53jw
Some screenshots are available at https://bitbucket.org/floren/inferno/wiki/Home
John
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:05 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> What would truly be interesting, since we don't need to reboot to
> switch modes, would be a button to
> do just that ...
>
It's really easy to switch modes from the shell.
To go from zygote to Inferno:
stop zygote
stop media
start media-inf
Unlocked android, basically, but I think it's best if you can run
Cyanogenmod on it. That's what we've used for all of our testing,
because it's available for a lot of phones and provides a reasonably
similar environment across all of them.
Since the E5 is not an Android phone, you probably won't
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis
wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:26:49 -0700
> Joel Armstrong wrote:
>
>> The phone won't beep or anything
>
> Does it not have audio?
>
>
I wasn't very involved in the audio side of things, but as I recall
there are separate controls for audio
That's the phone we used to develop, so yes.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Would this phone be able to run inferno?
>
> "Samsung Google Nexus S I9023 Unlocked GSM Android Phone With 4"
> Touchscreen, Dual-Cameras, WiFi & More!"
>
> http://1salea
Update: We now have a sort-of-working audio device in there. Sort of.
You can bind '#A' /dev and write to /dev/audio, 44.1KHz 16 bit PCM
audio will play fine. It'll also attempt to record 16KHZ 16 bit PCM,
but it comes out choppy. All the code is basically a crude hack from
the OpenSL ES example co
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, 252608386 <252608...@qq.com> wrote:
> i build the floren-inferno with cyanogen-mod source code(htc hero)
> and i got the error,why?
> agcc -c -O -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-inferno/Android/arm/include
> -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-inferno/include -DLINUX_ARM -DINF
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, 252608386 <252608...@qq.com> wrote:
> i build the floren-inferno with cyanogen-mod source code(htc hero)
> and i got the error,why?
> agcc -c -O -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-inferno/Android/arm/include
> -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-inferno/include -DLINUX_ARM -DINF
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John Floren wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, 252608386 <252608...@qq.com> wrote:
>> i build the floren-inferno with cyanogen-mod source code(htc hero)
>> and i got the error,why?
>> agcc -c -O -I/media/sdb1/inferno/floren-
At Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:43:11 +0200,
Jesper Vesterberg wrote:
>
> It seems the script created boot-inferno.img is no good, after i push
> it over neither
> android nor inferno wanna boot. The inferno bit is less suprising, since i
> haven't built it and pushed /data/inferno over. Android on the oth
erver-inferno.
>
> -jvg
>
> ps.
> Of what i know, the only diffrence between the phones is that the
> i9020 is suppose to have the amoled screen
> while the i9023 has the super clear lcd screen. Don't know if that
> would matter though.
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011
https://negrielectronics.com/google-nexus-s-i9020a-white-8503g-unlocked.html
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
wrote:
>> As of today, we have Inferno running on the Nexus S and the Nook
>> Color.
>
> And naturally, the Nexus S has been discontinued. At least, I can
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
> After a long hiatus, I'd like to get back to experimenting with Plan
> 9. I have an Ubuntu Linux laptop with AMD's virtualization extensions
> supported by the CPU, so I figure my best bet is one of the umpteen
> virtualization tools. Whi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
> On 11/22/2011 10:46 AM, ron minnich wrote:
>> If you're serious about booting a 64-bit os you need NIX. But you're
>> not going to get graphics.
>
> To which, on 11/22/2011 11:00 AM, erik quanstrom responded:
>> today's nix is quite raw. u
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Jens Staal wrote:
> On 11/27/11 01:14, Ruben Schuller wrote:
>>
>> To throw my experiences in:
>>
>
> I just managed to install 9front in virtualbox on my Arch linux x86_64
> laptop (intel (Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2370 @ 1.73GHz), 2GiB RAM). I
> first tried
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Anthony Martin wrote:
> A few people were asking about this so I
> wrote up a tutorial. I also uploaded a
> copy to http://apm.sdf.org/go/NOTES for
> anyone who has trouble with attachments.
>
> Cheers,
> Anthony
>
How many different Go porting efforts do we now
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:02 AM, hugo rivera wrote:
> Hi,
> soon I'll begin to write my thesis and I am planing to use troff. I
> previously wrote some documents with it, mostly with the ms macro,
> which I think I'll use for the thesis. Can you advice some book about
> troff with some introduction
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:29 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:16:26AM -0800, ron minnich wrote:
>>[...]
>> tex/latex, once clean and small, are now a beast,
>
> Uh! There are days when I wonder why I have done kerTeX... (well, I know
> why: because _I_ use it!). Do you know that kerTeX has
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Federico Benavento wrote:
>
> On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:12 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
>> Did you try it? Might be worth trying it. We did. But maybe it's time
>> to try things first and then send email :-)
>
> relax, maybe he didn't, but he did write a tool that parses
>
I'd like to install Erik's nupas, but according to contrib/install, a
bunch of files have been modified locally, so it doesn't install them.
Then, if I try to do a contrib/pull, it believes the package is up to
date. Ok, great, so I do "replica/pull -v /dist/replica/nupas", which
still complains th
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, John Floren wrote:
> I'd like to install Erik's nupas, but according to contrib/install, a
> bunch of files have been modified locally, so it doesn't install them.
> Then, if I try to do a contrib/pull, it believes the package is up to
&g
Voting Thierry for #1 poster of 2012 [so far]
Looking forward to trying the new release!
John
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A supplementary note for Plan9 users before reproducing the announce.
>
> I was testing the new version on Plan9 when the infamous "Disk full"
> er
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, wrote:
>> But perhaps the other users are smart enough to have understood all this
>> at installation time, but when I first installed Plan9, that was not for
>> the archival features. And I spent my time on Plan9 looking for the
>> distributed system, the names
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:07:08 PST "John Floren" wrote:
>>
>> For reference, I set up our current Plan 9 system about half a year
>> ago. We have 3.8 TB of Venti storage total. We have used 2.8 GB of
>> that, with basically no precautions taken to se
> (1) For example, P9 code tends to use variable names like "i" and "j",
> where I would typically use self-documenting variable names like "row"
> and "col". Variable names like "row" and "col" are much easier to
> search for (i.e., with a right-click), too. Names like "i" and "j"
> (which occu
Back when I had my FreeBSD server, I used to run a tmux session and
irssi to keep myself connected to IRC at all times. This let me
access it from any computer with an SSH client.
Now I only run a Plan 9 server, but I missed the simplicity and
convenience of having just one nickname on IRC at all
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM, John Floren wrote:
> Back when I had my FreeBSD server, I used to run a tmux session and
> irssi to keep myself connected to IRC at all times. This let me
> access it from any computer with an SSH client.
>
> Now I only run a Plan 9 server, b
m).
>
> a nice fix is fgb's "config" script
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/fgb/rc/config
>
> another common problem is "grep", where the easiest is to write
>
> GREP=grep
> at the top of the configure script.
>
> 2012/1/12 John Floren :
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Yaroslav wrote:
> 2012/1/12 John Floren :
>> but I missed the simplicity and
>> convenience of having just one nickname on IRC at all times
>
> why not to use their nickserv extentions for this purpose,
> and a startup script to
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Yaroslav wrote:
> well, there is a session persistense in Plan 9, and its name is vncs(1)…
>
Opening mibbit in a web browser is easier than installing a VNC client
on every computer I use.
Do you have some personal problem with IRC bouncers that makes you
despera
I figured I'd try building Python from the source on their website
just for kicks. Configure went ok, but when I went to run "make", it
soon bailed out with this error:
cc -c -OPT:Olimit=0 -g -DNDEBUG -O -I. -IInclude -I./Include
-DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Parser/grammar.o Parser/grammar.c
cc: flag -P ig
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Martin Harriss wrote:
> John Floren wrote:
>>
>> I figured I'd try building Python from the source on their website
>> just for kicks. Configure went ok, but when I went to run "make", it
>> soon bailed out with this er
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:32 AM, ROuNIN wrote:
> Hello!
> I still get the following:
>
> pcc -o 8.out app_rand.8 apps.8 asn1pars.8 ca.8 ciphers.8 crl.8
> crl2p7.8 dgst.8 dh.8 dhparam.8 dsa.8 dsaparam.8 ec.8 ecparam.8 enc.8
> engine.8 errstr.8 gendh.8 gendsa.8 genrsa.8 nseq.8 ocsp.8 openssl.8
> pa
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:48 AM, ROuNIN wrote:
> Hello,
> Thank you. Sorry for late reply:
>
> I get this message - something seems drastically wrong with my Plan9
> install --
>
> 8l
> cp 8.out /386/bin/go/8l
> 8c
> 8l -o 8.out cgen.8 cgen64.8 div.8 list.8 machcap.8 mul.8 pgen.8 pswt.
> 8 peep.8
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote:
> A quick question for everyone, is there interest in getting a more current
> version of hg working for Plan 9 & NIX? If so, given I've spent way too much
> time in the past getting both working for other platforms, I could devote a
> little
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM, erik quanstrom
wrote:
>> Mercurial's a good example as it's got a lot of logic in place to
>> deal with all sorts of odd filesystems already.
>>
>
> well if that the case, then its support isn't worth much.
> nix has been dealing with problems due to osx : mangling
While waiting for Linux to compile, I started poking at the 9fans
archive and noticed something:
The 13th message ever sent to 9fans
(http://9fans.net/archive/1993/04/13) ended by asking about "find".
Plan 9: Not UNIX, since 1993
John
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
> On 02/03/2012 13:11, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley.
>>
>> On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
>>
>>> WoW! I hate them.
>>> It seems my university is subscribed and I coul
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM, V-CA ! Christoph Paschke
wrote:
> @Nemo
>
> Ok, I just want start with a very easy constellation:
>
> 1.) I installed octopus on top of my MacMini (newest version) at my
> televison in living room, he running also Mac-Server
> 2.) I got the terminal started at an
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Peter A. Cejchan wrote:
>> It would be nice to have a widget library including buttons, drop-down
>> menus, multiple-line text entry, radio buttons, scrollbars, etc.
>
> Oh, no!!!
> ++pac
>
Oddly enough, that idea does not come with the rider, "And then force
Pe
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:09 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> folks don't write code until they want it. until now, nobody has cared
>> enough about cameras or scanners or printers (though i thought ethernet
>> connected printers work more or less (but i've never printed anything))
>> to do anything.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, wrote:
> May I suggest to add an "easy" project to the list: review Plan9
> installation.
>
> The "howto install without" (explaining how to create a Plan9 realm
> from another OS if the CD can not be used) that I posted a while
> ago did not attract a lot of att
I think being able to pay the students is what really makes GSoC work.
It adds an additional dimension that makes it a lot harder to just
say, "Oh, I'm bored with this, I quit".
John
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Joseph Stewart
wrote:
> So this all makes me wonder why some social aggregation
rter
> approach? Think it'd work?
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, John Floren wrote:
>>
>> I think being able to pay the students is what really makes GSoC work.
>> It adds an additional dimension that makes it a lot harder to just
>> say, "Oh,
Turns out Google command line client
(http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/) works on Plan 9 just fine. All
you need is python (from fgb's contrib, or if you want to risk
potentially out-of-date code I've got a tarball at
http://jfloren.net/contrib/packages/lang/python/root.tgz, just untar
it and copy
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Troy Cauble wrote:
> When using vim, Greek characters are shown followed by a
> garbage character, usually Esc., sometimes immediately after
> the Greek char, sometimes later in the line. Editing that line
> after the Greek char, positioning is one-off.
>
> encodi
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 4:56 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> bad troll
>
relax
Obvious solution, switch to reading comp.os.plan9 and sending replies to
the list :-)
On Apr 16, 2012 11:48 AM, wrote:
> can't receive mail from 9fans anymore. but can i
> still send?
>
> --
> cinap
>
>
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:26 PM, wrote:
>> I was thinking along the lines of http://lsub.org/ls/octopus.html, myself,
>> using a child of Inferno.
>
> Yeah, sound like interesting.
> Can I try this octopus on some of the PC still now?
> because I didn't do it, and have no idea of this.
>
> Whe I
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:07 PM, John Floren wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:26 PM, wrote:
>>> I was thinking along the lines of http://lsub.org/ls/octopus.html, myself,
>>> using a child of Inferno.
>>
>> Yeah, sound like interesting.
>> Can I try t
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Strake wrote:
> On 25/04/2012, Matthew Veety wrote:
>> On Apr 25, 2012 2:27 PM, "Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-25, at 11:04 AM, Strake wrote:
>>> > Four billion is not enough.
>>>
>>> Not enough what? This cat's curiosity is raised.
>>>
>>
>> Numbers
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Strake wrote:
> On 25/04/2012, John Floren wrote:
>> If you're doing cryptography and physical simulation, computation
>> bound stuff, why not set up a 64-bit CPU server? I've got one at work,
>> all you should need to do is
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Strake wrote:
> On 25/04/2012, John Floren wrote:
>> There are 3 options:
>>
>> 1. Suck it up and use the 64-bit system that is available
>> 2. Write drivers for your hardware (this is the comedy option)
>> 3. Complain on 9f
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
> On 2012-04-25, at 1:36 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
>
>> What is not obvious about what 'sam file' does?
>
> Plugging 'sam file' into a script does not launch the editor with the
> specified file in a window for the user to edit, and then save o
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Strake wrote:
> On 25/04/2012, John Floren wrote:
>> Through the magic of compression, and other things like realizing that
>> you don't have to redraw the *entire* screen 60 times a second when
>> displaying a mostly-static desktop.
&
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> Download the installation image from the website, gunzip, mount the resulting
> ISO image, then look in /sys/src.
Easier option: grab
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/plan9.tar.bz2, untar it, look
under plan9/sys/src/9 for the ke
ms in general, check out the stuff under /sys/src/cmd.
John
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Isaac Cortés wrote:
> Thanks a lot to everyone, I'm planing (my english sucks too) to learn about
> O.S. and C with this project, 'cause I'm kind of Hipster Student
> Informatic&
Great! Graphics support at this point, or is it still in the cpu server stage?
john
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM, wrote:
> After you pull, you should see a new directory,
> /sys/src/9/teg2. From the _announce file:
>
> This is a preliminary Plan 9 port to the Compulab Trimslice,
> containing
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:34 AM, IainWS wrote:
> Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
> trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
> started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
> for new users, and for the community
A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
john
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Burton Samograd
wrote:
> Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running
> plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW
> compatibility, etc. One
I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well,
looks great, and has a fantastic screen.
john
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, wrote:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet
>
> -sl
>
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM, wrote:
>> Is there any way to read gmail from plan9? Over SSL imap
>> maybe? I searched for imapfs but came up with nothing.
>
> Mount your gmail account via IMAP:
>
> upas/fs -f /imaps/imap.gmail.com/usern...@gmail.com
>
> The first time you try this, upa
Secstore really helps here.
john
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Federico Benavento
wrote:
> http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mail_configuration/index.html
>
> factotum doesn't have your key, try
> % auth/fgui &
> % /bin/upas/smtp -as net!smtp.gmail.com dest@dom
>
> a window will pop
9front has a mailing list, that's probably the best place to ask these
kind of things.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Burton Samograd
wrote:
> The features list of 9front has the subject line. How in development
> is it, and could anybody give a documentation/HOWTO on getting it
> working (if
Just when you thought every bikeshed had been painted...
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Lucio De Re wrote:
> (Trolling unintentional)
>
> The misspelling of Xerox in Acme has bugged me for a long time. I
> want to suggest that we change it to Clone. Votes?
>
> ++L
>
>
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
> On 30 May 2012 11:25, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>> Or Dop (short for Doppelgänger).
>>
>> dop. dop! make it stop!
>> i can't not
>> will not
>> have a dop!
>>
>> - erik
>>
>
> copy?
>
That surely won't be confused with the "Snarf" function
Some people would love warp-to-location for Undo/Redo, some I'm sure
would hate it. Some people can't stand that up/down arrow keys scroll
the page rather than move the cursor (I'm not one). Acme might benefit
from a config file in $home/lib/acme.conf or something. Yeah yeah,
Plan 9 doesn't use a l
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Winston Weinert wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 18:19 -0400, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
>> * Raspberry Pi
>> * Cotton Candy
>> * Mele A1000
>> * MK802
>
> Some other _pricier_ products to consider (and a larger variety of
> integrated components):
> * Beagleboard
> * Bea
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:16 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Mon Jun 11 17:07:15 EDT 2012, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
>> looking for more pleasing fonts I came across dejavu which are
>> downloadable from http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Download
>>
> [...]
>>
>> coverage is so-so, but there are lati
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>> sadly, the 10/100 ethernet is provided through a flakey usb hub
>
> I think the 'cheap arm dev board' bandwagon will always suffer in this
> regard, since the phones these SoCs were designed for don't even come
> close to needing gbe
>
Gurup
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In p9p's rio there is a possibility to cycle over windows with left_alt-tab.
> Has anyone thought about / managed to add some more shortcuts, e.g.
> such that would run a program like dmenu?
> (Do you start all your programs from a
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:17:47 AM UTC-4, Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> 9pcdisk is the output file, not the configuration file. Also you need to
>> quote the = because it is special to rc (assignment).
>> Try
>> mk 'CONF=pcdisk'
>>
>>
>> O
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for
>> running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If
>> you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days,
>> for a terminal, you proba
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:48:06 PM UTC-4, John Floren wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom
>> <quans...@quanstro.net> wrote:
>> >> But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Andy Elvey wrote:
> Hi Andrey - thanks for your reply!
>
> On 25/07/12 14:47, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
>
> I'm not a lawyer but I play one in comedy clubs. The first
> implementation of 9p came about long before Plan 9 had a free (as in
> rms) license. Nobody got
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