Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread Iruata Souza
tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port. the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sora

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode > (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) > for bootstrapping using vc? that's how i started playing. iru

Re: [9fans] Security, take 2.

2009-04-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > Given the feedback from the list, I've come up with two alternatives. > (Well, one of them was actually Mechiel's brainchild). > > Idea #1 (From Mechiel) > Instead of doing typed allocations, give every user an allocation > pool, from which

Re: [9fans] off-topic: "small is beautiful" article

2009-06-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Floren wrote: > TinyScheme has been in contrib for a long time, but I don't know its > limitations or how it would stack up against 'ChibiScheme' > > John Alex (the article's author) mentions it at http://groups.google.com/group/plan9-gsoc/browse_thread/thread

Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project

2009-07-20 Thread Iruata Souza
it is so difficult to 'fork' the project that it took me less than 10 minutes to turn the kernel sources into a hg repository. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Uriel wrote: > >> Plan 9 is *not* an open source project, it can hardly be called a

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

2009-07-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Salman Aljammaz wrote: > Uriel wrote: >> If your work firewall proxies port 80, then things get trickier, you >> could mount sources on the home inferno instance, and then export it >> using mjl's httpd as a read-only http 'tree'. > > assuming you've got openssh, on

Re: [9fans] 9p question

2009-07-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: >> How come you can't TWalk along an open Fid? > > In the original 9P protocol, that didn't make sense, > because walk always updated the fid it was starting from. > If you open a fid and t

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:33:18 +0100 > "Steve Simon" wrote: > >> I cannot imageine the senario where random people will have access >> to the cpu/auth/file server's consoles. It just doesn't happen >> if you are serious about security. >> >

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:29:25 -0300 > Iruata Souza wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:33:18 +0100 >> > "Steve Simon" wrot

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > you mean outside of the dump when acme is dies for reasons other than > being killed/exited? > > with win state, how are you going to handle the state of the shell? I > can see why they're dynamic, it could be potentially misleading to see > a cha

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Noah Evans wrote: > man 4 disk # disk(4) > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valek wrote: >> I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage >> is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem >> corruption for sure. Most oth

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Noah Evans wrote: > Try it. try updating your system.

Re: [9fans] dump9660?

2009-08-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: > Hi, > > Do any of you still use dump9660? Any recent experiences or stuff I > should watch out for using it? > mk9660(8) is the main user, but i don't think she reads the list. iru

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Uriel wrote: > Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel > already worked just fine with what russ did years ago. > > uriel > i heard that from you already. i just don't know why haven't you done it yet. for the ones interested, the code i

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> for the ones interested, the code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9null. >> i'm writing a README explaining how to compile and install. > > Are there plans for this to get folded into the mainline? > I wrote it with the hope of getting it into t

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Uriel wrote: > Can it load and parse plan9.ini? > > uriel > it can. can you? iru

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Do we stick with that file format forever? is it perfect and never to >> be changed? > > would it be fair to ask a the same question from a little > different perspective? > > could someone explain what the disadvantages and problems > with

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:38 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > It has not been a problem for anyone I know. It might not be perfect >> > or beautiful, but I have yet to hear any suggestion for a replacement >> > that has all the advantages of 9fat (simple, reliable, easily >> > accessible from other s

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> 9null (the project we're talking about) doesn't require any of it, but >> allows it. you can have a fat partition with plan9.ini and, say, 9pcf. >> but it can't reside at the very beginning of the disk. in fact, you >> should be able to have

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > 9fat is also a pain in that the 9load file must be created with, > and retain its append only file, which has a special meaning to 9fat > telling it to create the file in sequential blocks. > > This could (and has) caused problems if you access

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Uriel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:23 AM, ron minnich wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Federico G. >> Benavento wrote: >> >>> I could achieve the same as I did by doing "copy 9load E:" on windows >>> with this new approach, but I'd need to boot some

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, matt wrote: > erik quanstrom wrote: > >> i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more >> than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for >> doing more than 8.3 within 24 hrs. >> > > thanks but I'm not trolling, not complaining > >> just to be c

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Iruata Souza wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, matt wrote: >> erik quanstrom wrote: >> >>> i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more >>> than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liabilit

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Eris Discordia wrote: > Although, you may be better off reading SICP "as intended," and use MIT > Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking language) is > already hard/unusual enough for one to not want to get confused by > implementation quirks.

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> >> > > > Apple's using it all over the place in Snow Leopard, in all their >> > > > native >> > > > apps to write cleaner, less manual-lock code.  At least, that's the >> > > > c

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > There's been a *lot* of speculation on this thread and very little fact. > (...) > Trust me, I've seen how it is generated. > so we should trust you and not the facts? is that what you are saying? because i haven't seen any 'factual' code y

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnums wrote: >> Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I >> haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not >> terribly insane, that would be a

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> maybe the bootstrap can be done with linuxemu. > > wouldn't that just give you yet another linux elf binary? > you are right. it must know how to compile correct a.out(6). iru

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-09 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > anyone written any software recently? writing a new boot(8) that uses rc(1) to drive the boot process. iru

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:31:28 PDT David Leimbach  wrote: >> >> Having wrestled with this stuff a little bit, and written "something".  I >> can immediately see how one can get away from needing to "select" in code so >> much, and fire off blocks

Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon

2009-09-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM, David Arnold wrote: >> >> On 22/09/2009, at 4:47 PM, Jack Norton wrote: >> >>> In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to come up >>> with a game plan and either fork (server, deskt

Re: [9fans] 9vx as a perfect proto environment

2009-09-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> It's fast. But the big beauty of it for me is that in vx32/src/9vx/a >> is pretty much a plan 9 kernel in plan 9 C vernacular. I just spent an >> easy short time prototyping some new stuff that I can now drop into a >> real plan 9 kernel for Blue

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Oct  5 17:35:11 EDT 2009, m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For those of us traveling to IWP9, what are recommended ways to get >> from Atlanta to Athens? We were likely going to Atlanta by train... >> >> Thanks, >> -- vs > > i've u

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> >> if anyone want to rent a car, let me know so maybe a few people can >> share the expenses. > > i should have mentioned that driving is generally very easy > as long as you can use the carpool lane.  (but then again, i didn't > mind drivi

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
i second that. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > Should have come up with that before people booked travel.  Thursday night > at a pub perhaps? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 6, 2009, at 2:50 PM, ron minnich wrote: > >> I'd like to have a hack session the wed. morn

Re: [9fans] 9P in lua

2009-10-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > There is a LUA for P9 > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/iru/lua-5.1-plan9.tgz > > But ... 9P on LUA maybe iRu knows ? > i don't. not yet. > 2009/10/13 Roman Shaposhnik : >> Guys, >> >> has anybody seen 9P implemented in Lu

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, roger peppe wrote: > 2009/10/23 W B Hacker : >> We can't 'ave two 9'ers actually *agree* on sumat! > > i found it interesting that face to face there seemed to > be much more agreement than disagreement. > very constructive. > i second that. we could even write cod

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >> I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from >> everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. > > Makes me even more sick I was unable to come. > > could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular > activitie

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? >> >> s/^./\u&/ > > ; echo abc def | sed 's/^.\u&/' > sed: s command garbled: s/^.\u&/ > i guess you missed the second slash

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Lorenzo Bolla wrote: > To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? > s/^./\u&/ > > L. % echo rwrong | sed 's/^./\u&/' urwrong

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:58:10AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: >> On Sun Nov  1 11:55:47 EST 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Also, D is not compiled in kernel. The dtrace utility compiles the D >> > script, and the script goes t

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> i was told dtrace was non-intrusive at the time, but w2 would show the >> command history from w1. > > More likely this is ksh sharing a history file. > > at the time i couldn't reproduce it with other shells. anyway, iirc, no such side-e

[9fans] kernel compiling with -R

2009-11-04 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, is there any reason why the kernel is not linked with its text segment rounded? iru

Re: [9fans] MIPS LSB compiler

2009-11-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >>   * A ducktyping of sorts with interfaces and such. On the surface >> it just saves >>     you a bunch of "extends XXX", but it actually seems to bridge >> the gap between >>     dynamically typed world and a statically typed one to an extent

Re: [9fans] usb disks in plan9

2009-11-23 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> Usb disks don't know how to handle partitions. >> You have to use partfs IIRC or some other tool to >> partition it. > > Hmm..  Here is what I would like to do.  I would like to put > a FAT32 and a fossil (or kfs) filesystem on a usb flash dri

[9fans] auth_getkey(2) and factotum path

2009-12-09 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, i am playing with a kernel configuration where i have factotum in /$cputype/bin/auth/factotum instead of /boot. today this is not possible because auth_getkey(2) requires /boot/factotum or /factotum to be present. would it be a problem if auth_getkey tried the usual place too? iru

Re: [9fans] Announcing: rootless post kernel load startup

2010-01-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, mycroftiv 9gridchan wrote: > More recent work - available on sources in > contrib/mycroftiv/rootlessboot as both patches and a compiled ready to > use kernel and optional rootfs.tgz additional tools to be placed in > 9fat partition. > > "Rootless" bootup is a rewrit

Re: [9fans] parallels

2010-01-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, wrote: > I don't have enough experience with VirtualBox to make a sensible > comparison. > > The thing that none of the VM monitors seem to offer (though I'd love > to be proven wrong) is debugging tools for the guest operating > systems.  This is odd, as it was on

Re: [9fans] problem with pull

2010-02-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > Also, could you tell me what those errors are about and what the > /n/boot directory is good for? > /n/boot seems to be the mount of #s/boot, the root file server srv file.

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Steve wrote: > I've been scouring the Interwebs and haven't been able to find much of > a solution. > > Yesterday I decided to give P9 a try and burned the ISO file available > on Plan 9's installation page here: > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/download/inde

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> >> > I did look around and the only possible problems I could find were >> > that maybe since I don't have Windows it was trying to look for the >> > FAT file (I'm strictly an on

Re: [9fans] How to mount a P9 partition?

2010-02-19 Thread Iruata Souza
fossil/fossil -f /dev/sdD0/fossil -c 'srv fossil' this should post /srv/fossil as you want. then you can proceed to mounting as you did with the cd. On 2/19/10, Jonas Amoson wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to access files that I have on a harddrive > on which the Plan 9 installation refuses to b

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2010-03-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, wrote: >> We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / >> contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think >> the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new >> resource. Between the above and the wiki, the

Re: [9fans] ports duplication

2010-03-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:26 AM, wrote: >> As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of >> code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a >> broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and >> concepts. > > I really don't think t

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 29 Mar 2010, at 00:28, hiro wrote: >> >> Following your logic we must be one of the luckiest mailing list around > > I was speaking of lunix & co, on the basis that given enough additional apps > & things the same problems will arise

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Corey wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 17:24:08 erik quanstrom wrote: >> > In any given social environment, communicating dissatisfaction of >> > the status quo is often the logical first step towards choices (a) >> > and/or (b) - due to the fact that going off on

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Corey wrote: > Is it that the core Plan 9 design concepts[1] are in fact inappropriate or > uninteresting for anything beyond that which Plan 9 currently provides? > [1] /sys/doc

Re: [9fans] bootiso.s fixed

2010-04-07 Thread Iruata Souza
i guess this email was for me. ;] On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:52 PM, wrote: > found it! > > the problem was the LBPB() to load byte 0 from the pvd for comparsion. > i loaded it into rBX instead of rBL.  found this out after dumping the > buffer and noticed that the contents where the same on t23 an

Re: [9fans] /sys/lib/newuser patch

2010-04-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, EBo wrote: > >> newuser assumes that your home directory exists, and on a >> normal plan 9 install, it's likely not possible to create anything >> in /usr without doing it on the fs console. > > Maybe I am missing something here, but this is not a normal plan9 inst

Re: [9fans] Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?

2008-03-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:35 AM, prem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 10, 10:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Abaco's website is now hosted athttp://abaco.oitobits.net;) > > > > > Thanks! I guess it hasn't made it into the google index yet. > > > > -Sean > > I am unable to compile aba

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is a bad idea, what if you want to use an alternate > > webfs (on a different NIC), or an non-standard cookies file? do you > > want to wait whilst webcookies rescans it databse at startup and > > webfs

Re: [9fans] Announcing Vim for Plan 9

2008-03-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:24 PM, andrey mirtchovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i thought :colorscheme only worked for vim -g :) > > oh well, here's a reproducible bug: > > start vim, type :colorscheme ron (or whatever you like from > /lib/vim/vimfiles/color/), hit 'i', try to type some text. c

Re: [9fans] CSS parser for abaco [WAS: abaco @ plan9port]

2008-03-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > as abaco doesn't yet have CSS support, I intend to write some > tiny CSS parser/loader. > > If we represent the CSS contents as an tree structure, we basicly > have these node types: > > * media type

[9fans] LPL

2008-03-14 Thread Iruata Souza
9fans, in 2007's gsoc I started writing o9fs, a 9p-capable virtual filesystem for openbsd. first I used conv* and some other pieces from Plan 9; them I decided to rewrite based on libixp because of possible licensing problems between LPL code and openbsd's. now I've reread LPL and it got me thinki

Re: [9fans] LPL

2008-03-14 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > can I relicense LPL code to, say, the ISC license? > > No. Just like you can't relicense GPL'ed code to ISC, > because the ISC license does not contain all the same > restrictions that the LPL (or GPL) does. > > However,

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perhaps a little introspection is needed. was it that they didn't like > the proposals this year or that they didn't like the outcome of last > year's effort? > > or maybe they just want to spread their love. > las

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:52 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > last year's big problem was the number of failed projects, not the > > effort made by the organization.

Re: [9fans] System call mania

2008-03-21 Thread Iruata Souza
On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. I was recently looking in libc when I noticed a few things > about system calls: > > 1) brk and sbrk are implemented atop brk_, which is not documented > 2) the seek function seems to be a system call, but the alpha folder > defin

Re: [9fans] System call mania

2008-03-21 Thread Iruata Souza
On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That confirmed one suspicion: the REAL calls are those who are simply > named in /sys/src/libc/9syscall/sys.h, and that the USER-LEVEL calls > are a big mess in libc. Thanks! > doesn't the name system call suggests you something? iru

Re: [9fans] Drawterm + QEMU

2008-03-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, so now that I have drawterm working on my Mac, I'd like to have > it working remotely at my school. Which IP addresses should I use > instead of the localhost to connect to my CPU remotely? > http://web.ncf.ca/ac

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
2008/3/26 Rob Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > echo -n -n' > ' > > -rob > > I know this is a silly question, but doesn't this defeats the purpose of the first -n? iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I know what I quoted. I changed the B to a Delta to represent > change and turned dom to doom. YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU DID NOT GET > THAT. It now reads CHANGE --> DOOM! > > We need to keep echo the same because of

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't care if you agree with Bill Gates on the issue. The problem > is that everyone has about 30 different ways of solving the problem > and there isn't a definite solution that will cause something to > break. Let

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the > Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). > > cu I'm forwarding this to 9p-hackers. iru

[9fans] hot or not

2008-04-06 Thread Iruata Souza
http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=ugu.hotnot&HN=1113&RT=10 iru

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 refuses to boot from iMac

2008-04-16 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. Tired of waiting for Q's developers to fix the bug resulting in QEMU, > which Q provides a wrapper for, freezing every time I boot, I decided to try > to run Plan 9 on native Mac hardware. I have a December 2006 i

Re: [9fans] Drawterm not working in Leopard

2008-04-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Juan M. Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/27 Vinícius de Figueiredo Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > http://web.ncf.ca/ac895/books/opl_seminar_notes.html > > I don't think it's necessary to send so many useless answers, or > wisecracks for something that

[9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-12 Thread Iruata Souza
9fans, I have hacked ext2srv to support symlinks so that now, when resolving a name, a walk will present the client with the file pointed to by the link, not the link itself. In hope for it to be useful to someone I have put it under /n/sources/contrib/iru/ext2srv.tgz iru

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does it still suffer from the 2GB size problem, or s it solved already? > Thanks, > sincerely, I added symlinks because of fgb's (and others) needs. I can take a look on the 2GB issue too if that would help someone. iru

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would help me much until I get rid of linux completely. I have dirs with big > photos (~ 300MB each) so I had to split them into subdirs to hadle them via > ext2srv. i also tried tofiddle with the source, but I gave up. > since i alr

Re: [9fans] Where is Uriel?

2008-05-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He has been MIA since March 11, and his last cat-v blog update was from > around that time. Isn't he supposed to be taking care of some things, like > the Contrib Index page of the wiki? I just modified his contrindx and

Re: [9fans] simulation and newsqueak

2008-05-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you done a port of Newsqueak to Plan 9? I tried using Rob's original > code (and failed, albeit not very miserably). > > What do you mean by "monte carlo" - the solitaire? Perhaps a look at the > concept would be he

Re: [9fans] crosstool fails on gentoo

2008-06-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 22:37 +0200, Uriel wrote: >> *yet another layer of complexity so you can look at all that stuff >> at the same time*. >> > all I care about is that it doesn't leak I don't have any solaris boxes to

Re: [9fans] crosstool fails on gentoo

2008-06-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:21 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't have any solaris boxes to play now, but I remember when taking >> a dtrace course - more or less tw

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Cross-compiling in Gnu/land is a nightmare not worth going into. > > No, it isn't - as long as you've got a proper toolchain and > get around autoshit. (eg. I've got my own libtool i

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how the praise of "excellent" was bestowed on QEMU. It > may work well on a x86 emulating an x86 but try something else. It > ends in tears. > just like opening up an x86 machine and trying to stick a mips proce

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-14 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:53 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't know how the praise of "excellent" was bestowed on QEMU. It >> may work well on a x86 emulating an x86 but try something else. It >> ends in tears. >> > > this isn't a defense of qemu. i don't know enough about i

Re: [9fans] P9p's mount(1) on linux

2008-06-19 Thread Iruata Souza
http://swtch.com/v9fs seems to have a nightly updated copy of v9fs in the linux kernel tree. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your reply, but I'm not clear what you mean: should p9p's > mount check the kernel version? or are you talking about 9mount?

Re: [9fans] Getting drawterm to work in Leopard (again)

2008-06-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. I'm trying to get drawterm to work in Leopard again. Here is my > command line: > >drawterm-osx-intel -c 'tcp!127.0.0.1!17010' -a 'tcp!127.0.0.1!2567' > -s 'tcp!127.0.0.1!5356' -u pietro > is connecting t

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wiess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you can wait a couple days I'll have some time later in the >> week to port this over to OpenBSD. >> >>

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wiess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you can wait a couple days I'll have some time later in the > week to port this over to OpenBSD. > > >> I'm currently trying to get 9vx work on OpenBSD-4.3 (i386, 750Mhz, >> 256MB RAM), but each time I want to start 9vx I ge

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barring a "mystical" bond with its exquisite kernel, of course. > it seems you have done much kernel programming, eh? iru

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the contrary, while I do like using keyboard I'm very much a "polymath." > Mouses are very good input devices for certain applications. The way the > mouse is used--or "abused"--in rio and acme poses a problem. It is the

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Window decorations (as they're called in X-speak) are not "mere > decorations," they're useful. The two button (+/- wheel) mouse is prevalent > because for most people only the index and middle finger are robust enough. > T

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All these could "theoretically" become "supported" (that's different from > being "included") in an OS if it manages to gather enough public momentum. > Without that you can do only your "serious" stuff which excludes quite

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A stand-alone Plan 9 system amounts in conceptual complexity "for > the user" to at least three interconnected machines. Very little has been > done to cover that. > does distributed gets translated to something else in you

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "For Dummies" books are essentially non sequiturs arising from marketing > schemes. RTFM is really the way to go, but you need to have an "incentive," > a "promise," to RTFM. Obviously, sometimes the incentive is replaced b

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Malik Bazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious, did your porting attempt suceed? > > Hope you'll post some news for the OpenBSD port here... > sorry for not reporting until now. I´m not at home and have no access to my tree right now, but I can already run 9vx

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Malik Bazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me again - Were you successfull in porting 9vx to OpenBSD? > If you need some testing help, contact me. > http://iru.oitobits.net/src/vx32-0.10-openbsd-compiled.tgz I guess you'll have problems compiling. Let me know if you d

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Brian L. Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Me again - Were you successfull in porting 9vx to OpenBSD? >> If you need some testing help, contact me. > > Speaking of that, does anyone have an idea where NetBSD > would fit into that? Of the bunch, that's the one I'

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