it is so difficult to 'fork' the project that it took me less than 10
minutes to turn the kernel sources into a hg repository.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ron minnich<rminn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Uriel<urie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Plan 9 is *not* an open source project, it can hardly be called a
>> project even: There is no release management, there is no development
>> process, there is no way to know what anyone is working on, no way to
>> have any idea of what changes and features to expect in the future or
>> when, or when any given bug might be fixed, or even a bug database for
>> that matter,
>
>
> This is an interesting statement and should be revised. So let's correct it.
>
> Take that above text and add this, please:
> "That is visible to Uriel, or that will ever be visible to Uriel, or
> that Uriel has any possibility of influencing, given that Uriel has
> burned every last bridge he might have ever had with the Plan 9
> developers to the ground.".
>
>> So you are on your own, you can take the code (while the site happens
>> to be up, or from a mirror), do whatever you like with it, but that is
>> all there is and all anyone can count on.
>
> So, let's revise this one too..
>
> "I, Uriel, taking up Noah Evans offer, will be forking the code base
> and releasing an OS called Plan-U. I will provide servers that resolve
> all the problems seen with the bell labs server, and I will take on
> the task, with my friends, of providing all the things I see lacking
> in the current setup. It's much easier to contribute a solution than
> complain, and I am not the type who gets perverse joy out of just
> complaining and yelling at people on a mailing list. That game is for
> losers. Rather, I wish to provide a constructive solution, and I know
> that after a few months people will ignore the bell labs site and
> flock to mine. It worked for openbsd, and it can work for Plan U. As
> part of this effort, I hereby unsubscribe from this list, and am
> starting a new one called ufans for my new OS release. Please join me
> in this important work. "
>
> There now, wouldn't that be much easier? You already run a bunch of
> servers; I think you could pull it off. And it might lower your blood
> pressure :-)
>
> You declined Noah's serious offer to take over sources; here's another
> chance! Go for ti! You should not assume it would not work.
>
> Ron
>
>

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