Re: [9fans] openat()

To me this sounds very similar to open() given a path relative to your current working directory. > On Apr 5, 2024, at 2:22 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > not so much what I want, I'm curious about ideas people have about > implementing it that I would not think of. > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:3

Re: [9fans] openat()

Faster for any command that operates on dir trees such as diff, du, rm, tar.When I first looked at plan9, I was a bit surprised its open *didn’t* workthis way! May be because of this earlier thread on comp.unix.wizardshttps://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.wizards/c/i8vapj9BAqs/m/FlNUK705I0UJ (which

Re: [9fans] troll paper

On Apr 15, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > And, if I hear about it being > “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend. > > You might find help in culang.org Not sure how much the Cue language will help wh

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

Did anyone try to port sccs to plan9? > On Apr 18, 2024, at 9:11 AM, Paul Lalonde wrote: > > The Bell Labs approach to source control was, I'm, weak. It relied on > snapshots of the tree and out-of-band communication. Don't forget how small > and tight-knit that development team was, and how

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

On Apr 18, 2024, at 1:41 PM, Dan Cross wrote: > > Culturally, there was a feeling that source revision a la RCS, SCCS, > etc, were unnecessary because the dump filesystem gave you snapshots > already. Moreover, those were automatic and covered more than one file > at a time; RCS/SCCS required som

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

On Apr 18, 2024, at 2:48 PM, Shawn Rutledge wrote: > > Just another reason to eventually have Rust on Plan 9… Yeah. Compiles are too damn fast; no time to make masala chai :-) -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tab2715b0e

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

As we used to say in the Usenet era, \|||/ (o o) ,ooO--(_)---. | Please| | don't feed the | | TROLL's ! | '--Ooo--' |__|__| ooO Ooo Deny them attention and they will go away eventually. On Aug 3, 2024, at 3:40 PM, o...@

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

On Aug 4, 2024, at 4:40 PM, Michael Grunditz wrote: > > I wonder if there is a email client with some kind of killfile like many old > usenet clients have. Looks like an opportunity to update upas (or Erik Quanstrom's nupas) :-) AFAIK neither has support for filtering on the "From" line. But

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

On Aug 4, 2024, at 10:33 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Quoth Bakul Shah via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>: >> >> Looks like an opportunity to update upas (or Erik Quanstrom's nupas) :-) >> AFAIK neither has support for filtering on the "From" line. &g

r9 etc (Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

On Oct 3, 2024, at 7:12 PM, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > > Nothing against r9 but what's the point of it when plan 9 already boots and > does what I need? I'm not drawn to an OS because of the language it's written > in. I'm drawn in by the concepts of the OS. A rewrite is a great way to reall

Re: [9fans] Bug: Acme: Multiple running programs fight each other for visible area

The plan9port-dev mailing list may be a better place for most of your bug reports. Also, you can create "issues" on github.com/9fans/plan9port. > On Sep 30, 2024, at 3:06 PM, kalter...@gmail.com wrote: > > Expected behavior > > Acme automatically allocates enough space to make the tip of running

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

In spite of this early drama it seems to be coming along fine. It feels more like go but with some different choices. Compiles itself in seconds (tcc or system c compiler as backend). I’ve written small programs in it and like it so far. It supports *BSD, linux, macos, windows, etc. but not plan

Re: [9fans] NIX experience

I wonder how these many-core systems share memory effectively. > On Dec 30, 2024, at 8:25 AM, Ron Minnich wrote: > > BTW, there are 512- and 1024-core risc-v systems in the works, and NIX > looks pretty good for that kind of CPU. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink

Re: [9fans] NIX experience

This may be of some use to non-experts: https://enccs.github.io/gpu-programming/ > On Dec 27, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Paul Lalonde wrote: > > GPUs have been my bread and butter for 20+ years. > > The best introductory source continues to be Kayvon Fatahalian and Mike > Houston's 2008 CACM paper: ht

Re: [9fans] can i stll golang on plan9?

I see go1.23.5.plan9-{386,amd64,arm}.tar.gz on go.dev/dl/. Presumably you can cross-build for arm64? See also this long thread: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/57540 > On Jan 24, 2025, at 12:23 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > > hi, > > does the go c

Re: [9fans] where's that nice plan 9 pdf previewer from iwp9 ?

On Jan 17, 2025, at 11:10 AM, Noam Preil wrote: > > It's in the pdffs repo. Started working on it again a few months ago, but > my laptop broke; just got a 9 system set up on a pinebook using > QEMU+KVM, I'm more than happy to guide through it and assist with > debugging if needed :) > > https:/

Re: [9fans] 9front USB EFI Boot hang

9front came up fine under bhyve (uses efi). Last install from 9front-10522.amd64.iso > On Jan 27, 2025, at 6:07 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Quoth ron minnich : >> "We have had reports of some machines having buggy EFI firmware ..." >> >> wow, I hear that a *lot* :-) >> > > It would be

Re: [9fans] NIX experience

On Jan 4, 2025, at 9:35 AM, Stuart Morrow wrote: >> This has been a very interesting discussion, thanks all. My offer >> remains: if anyone wants to revive NIX, I am happy to help. > > Am I the only one who sees that the Fastcall stuff would be good for > bringing some devices out of the kernel (