> but I argue it's exactly right.
> PCM is the native hardware sample format and is
> basically the "uncompress bitmap" of the audio world.
makes perfect sense.
> it all seems to hark back to the days
> mainframers put disk addresses in their data.
Never mind disk addresses. We used to put whole channel programs into
our data. How else would you implement a fast disk search without
bothering the CPU? Just build a self-grepping file ...
2009/8/13 Roman Shaposhnik :
> Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC
> of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy
> been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs
> are really quite good for data serialization in the heterogeneous
> environment
I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was
turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1).
Startup:
pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9
#u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9
256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M sw
>
> Presumably this is because ssh is sshv1
> but bitbucket requires sshv2.
>
> Russ
>
Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
too. Maybe when the Plan 9 ssh client is facing sshv2, instead of
shutting down with an error, it should try sshv1, or wait until its
offered
So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the
least. He even went as far as to mention that SML was the language they
we
Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your
process table?
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valek wrote:
> I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was
> turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1).
>
> Startup:
> pcirouti
Logged in with 'none':
none 910:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd
none 920:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd
none 930:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd
none 940:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd
Logged in with 'glenda':
glenda
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:13:58 +0200
Bela Valek wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
> too.
I vaguely remember reading that some ssh software would refuse to work
with ssh v1 by default because v1 is so insecure.
--
Ethan Grammatikidis
Those who are
Okay, could you run:
echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bela Valek wrote:
> Logged in with 'none':
>
> none 91 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd
> none 92 0:00 0:00 356K Pread usbd
> none 93 0:00 0:00
hi all,
what is the reason why the dir structure of /usr/xxx does not follow that of /
(according to namespace(4)), please?
e.g., /386/bin, /386/lib, /386/include, /rc/bin, /rc/lib, but,
/usr/glenda/bin/386, /usr/glenda/bin/mips, /usr/glenda/bin/rc.
thanks,
++pac.
The software industry is the ultimate recreation of Sisyphus' curse.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
>
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>> if we're going back there, just take me out back and shoot me now.
>> i want to remember some progress in com
I always use proportional, 10 years ish now
I always use tabs not spaces for indenting
I don't remember it ever being a problem, certainly not one unsolved by
clicking on Font
2009/8/13 Bela Valek :
>>
>> Presumably this is because ssh is sshv1
>> but bitbucket requires sshv2.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
> too. Maybe when the Plan 9 ssh client is facing sshv2, instead of
> shutting down with an error, it should
"Aaron W. Hsu" writes:
> Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why, and what
> troubles did you encounter; what benefits did you encounter?
You can't very well engage in weird formatting tricks, but I'm not much
a fan of those anyway. IMO, the more attractive letters and generally
le
2009/8/13 Aaron W. Hsu :
> Firstly, how many of you using Acme for programming on a daily basis remap
> your fonts so that the fixed width font is the main one that you use?
i use proportional fonts in acme for programming.
> Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why, and what trouble
First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8:
glenda50:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd
glenda60:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd
glenda70:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd
glenda80:00 0:00 356K R
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
> So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
> discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
> proportional fonts for programming in Acme.
I've been programming using Wily, Acme, and Acm
Hello everyone,
I have, by mistake, deleted a file.
I use fossil.
I don't know much about how fossil works...
Can I do something to get it back?
I tried yesterday, but it says /n/dump/2009 doesn't exist.
I looked in /n/dump and there is nothing.
I tried '9fs dump' but even after that /n/dump/ is
Can you mk all /sys/src/libthread. This is bogging down a bit. Take it off-list?
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bela Valek wrote:
> First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8:
>
> glenda 5 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd
> glenda 6
http://www.p9dp.org/plan9-cpu-auth-server-howto.html
This is likely to be the final draft; it has been optimized in various ways and
I have thoroughly tested it multiple times.
Sure would be terrific if a few folks of varying degrees of experience with
Plan 9 could actually take the document fo
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 17:40:59 John Floren wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Corey wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads-up, John - I've included a timeout value on the
> > plan9.ini menu in the next draft version of the howto.
> >
>
> You're welcome, but I do think we'd all be better served
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:14:19 GMT
"Aaron W. Hsu" wrote:
> So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
> discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
> proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the
> least. He e
On Thu Aug 13 06:25:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote:
> First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8:
>
> glenda50:00 0:00 356K Sleepusbd
> glenda60:00 0:00 356K Preadusbd
> glenda70:00 0:00
2009/8/13 Noah Evans :
> Can you mk all /sys/src/libthread. This is bogging down a bit. Take it
> off-list?
>
I did mk, and i tried the command again, thread 5 has no process
information, thread 95 gives this:
term% echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread 95
/proc/95/text:386 plan 9 executable
/sys/lib
Its a default install, i didnt modify it.
2009/8/13 erik quanstrom :
> On Thu Aug 13 06:25:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote:
>> First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8:
>>
>> glenda 5 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd
>> glenda 6
Hello everyone
Why do I get an ugly result when trying to typeset (in file 'a')
.EQ
a + left ( A + B right )
.EN
with
eqn a | troff | dpost -f > a.ps?
I am getting an equation in which the 'A+B' is significantly shifted
downwards inside the (), so that the two pluses just don't line up...
Than
Hi all
The subject says it all.
Is it possible to turn on dma before calling the init scripts?
or in fossil+venti installation turn on dma before loading venti
fernan
--
http://www.fernski.com
... Do I need venti to be able to use the dump feature?
Thanks
Ruda
Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of
what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have
two instances of usbd running.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Bela Valek wrote:
> Its a default install, i didnt modify it.
>
> 2009/8/13 erik quanstrom :
>> On
On Thu Aug 13 02:43:54 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> > I'm not sure either latency or RT is proper terminology here. But
> > I believe what I meant was clear: when you need overall latency
> > to be around 5ms you start to notice 9P.
when you need the overall latency to be around 5ms,
aren't
* Rudolf Sykora (rudolf.syk...@gmail.com) wrote:
> ... Do I need venti to be able to use the dump feature?
> Thanks
> Ruda
Probably. You might get away with
9fs snap
and having a peek at /n/snap, though. (I'm not sure as I haven't
used fossil without venti backing of some sort in years.)
> ... Do I need venti to be able to use the dump feature?
if you are using fossil, then yes.
- erik
On Thu Aug 13 09:03:44 EDT 2009, fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote:
> Hi all
>
> The subject says it all.
> Is it possible to turn on dma before calling the init scripts?
> or in fossil+venti installation turn on dma before loading venti
with my new sd stuff, it is possible. put this in plan9.ini
*s
>> it needs to be isochronous.
>
> i believe it has that capability. just keep multiple tags
> outstanding.
at the device it needs to be isochronous; so if it's going over the
wire, you need to build some elasticity in.
or as media players would say: [ buffering... buffering... ] ☺
2009/8/13 erik quanstrom :
> On Thu Aug 13 02:43:54 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
>> > I'm not sure either latency or RT is proper terminology here. But
>> > I believe what I meant was clear: when you need overall latency
>> > to be around 5ms you start to notice 9P.
>
> when you need the overa
On Thu Aug 13 09:36:24 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote:
> Plan 9
[...]
> init: starting /bin/rc
> grep: exec header invalid
> grep: exec header invalid
> grep: exec header invalid
i'm pretty sure this is not a pristine install.
somehow grep has gotten stomped on.
- erik
Can add 'flag x +' to /rc/bin/usbstart and /rc/bin/termrc and post
that output? I think I know your problem now. Also could you:
echo | grep -s hello; echo $status
My guess is that somehow your grep is borked and:
if (! ps | grep -s ' usbd$')
usb/usbd
is succeeding in /rc
2009/8/13 Noah Evans :
> Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of
> what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have
> two instances of usbd running.
>
Its very short, the error message comes early:
Plan 9
E820: 0009f000 memory
E820: 0009f000
> we don't use text for 9p, do we?
the difference being, 9p is the transport not
the representation of the data and 9p has
a fixed set of messages.
- erik
i certainly can't speak for the original designers, but i'd say
aesthetics, mostly. putting bin before the arch type allows you to
simply have fewer things in your home directory, which makes looking
around easier. you can't really do that in the root. well, you could,
binding, for example, /bin/38
http://iwp9.quanstro.net/ :-)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> it's fast approaching. get those papers in.
> http://iwp9.net
>
> - erik
>
>
--
Rodolfo García "kix"
EA4ERH - IN80ER
On Thu Aug 13 10:06:44 EDT 2009, k...@kix.es wrote:
> http://iwp9.quanstro.net/ :-)
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > it's fast approaching. get those papers in.
> > http://iwp9.net
thanks for the correction.
i got my wires crossed. i ment iwp9.org, but the
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:57 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> a further note, if you rebuild your kernel, it won't work.
> installing the following contrib packages is required
> quanstro/fis (build and parse sata fises)
> quanstro/sd (new sd stuff)
> quans
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Floren wrote:
> With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e
i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no "suitable" fat
partition. no amount of partitioning and formatting under freedos or
freebsd results in anything disk one will p
> I booted the FreeDOS disk and created a small partition (something
> like 50 MB) on the hard disk, leaving the rest unpartitioned. Then I
> installed FreeDOS to the small partition and started the Plan 9
> installation.
i don't have the 2e sources so i'm guessing. (apologies.)i don't know
what
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM, michael block wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Floren wrote:
>> With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e
>
> i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no "suitable" fat
> partition. no amount of partitioning and formattin
2009/8/13 Noah Evans :
> Can add 'flag x +' to /rc/bin/usbstart and /rc/bin/termrc and post
> that output? I think I know your problem now. Also could you:
> echo | grep -s hello; echo $status
>
> My guess is that somehow your grep is borked and:
>
> if (! ps | grep -s ' usbd$')
>
you need venti for dumps, but not snapshots. do "9fs snap" and then
see if there's anything in /n/snap. these are ephemeral, not archival.
i don't believe fossil ships with these turned on by default, so
you're likely SOL, sorry.
assuming my memory from my last install is correct, and it's not
in
On Thu Aug 13 10:16:09 EDT 2009, fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote:
> > quanstro/9load-e820 (to rebuild 9load)
>
> I am suppose to replace /sys/src/boot/pc with /sys/src/boot/pc-e820???
if you do reinstall, you will need to install from /sys/src/boot/pc-e820
not /sys/src/boot/pc. if you le
On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we?
>
> the difference being, 9p is the transport not
> the representation of the data and 9p has
> a fixed set of messages.
>
Also 9p aims at file systems pretty obviously where Thirft is a
generic RPC mechanism with stub compile
Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
// This is easily demonstrable with rhythm games (such as Rock
// Band or Guitar Hero) where latency induced by a home audio
// system (mine at home is about 15ms induced by my receiver
// and 5ms using the Xbox digital output) can have a very
// significant negative impact o
2009/8/13 Anthony Sorace :
> you need venti for dumps, but not snapshots. do "9fs snap" and then
> see if there's anything in /n/snap. these are ephemeral, not archival.
>
> i don't believe fossil ships with these turned on by default, so
> you're likely SOL, sorry.
Well, after
9fs snap
/n/snap
is
2009/8/13 Anthony Sorace :
> Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> // This is easily demonstrable with rhythm games (such as Rock
> // Band or Guitar Hero) where latency induced by a home audio
> // system (mine at home is about 15ms induced by my receiver
> // and 5ms using the Xbox digital output) can have a
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu Aug 13 10:16:09 EDT 2009, fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote:
>> There is no edev->maxtu in /sys/src/9/pc ether8169.c
>> there is edev->maxmtu Mtu same thing???
>
> i don't believe you've installed the version of 8169 in
> my contrib.
>
> term% contrib/install quanstro/8169
> 8169 is already installed
> term% contrib/pull -s sys/src/9/pc 8169
> term%
>
> hmm it says already installed, but I cant grep any reference to edev->maxtu
okay, maybe there's not a problem. if it
just compiles, then don't worry about it.
otherwise, remove
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:13:58 +0200
> Bela Valek wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
> > too.
>
> I vaguely remember reading that some ssh software would refuse to work
> with ssh v1 by def
2009/8/13 David Leimbach :
> On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we?
>>
>> the difference being, 9p is the transport not
>> the representation of the data and 9p has
>> a fixed set of messages.
> Also 9p aims at file systems pretty obviously where Thirft is a
> gene
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:23, John Floren wrote:
> Ok, first note that I didn't have any luck with QEMU, I had to install
> on an actual 486.
i have the same error with both qemu and period hardware. i'm running
qemu-8.2.0 and a pentium 266MHz laptop. on the laptop both my freedos
partition and s
2009/8/13 David Leimbach :
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:13:58 +0200
>> Bela Valek wrote:
>>
>> > Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
>> > too.
>>
>> I vaguely remember reading that some ssh software
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:26, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > i don't know
> > what versions of fat 2e supported, but i would imagine restricting
> > oneself to fat16 (and not fat16 lba) would be safest.
>
> i used fat16, i think lba. i figured plan 9 would be smart enough to
> deal with lba and larg
you need to read fossilcons(8) for how to turn them on.
the man page makes clear (i think) that there are two types of
snapshots, archival and not. i think the default behavior is
explained, too (see the description of snaptime).
> Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1 too.
When you connect to the SSH server, if it is willing to
accept version 1 or 2 it says 1.99 as its version.
If it is only willing to accept version 2, it says 2.
$ dial 'tcp!bitbucket.org!ssh'
SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian
since it seems customary to send out a shout everytime Eriks new sd
stuff works here is mine
I am now running plan9 on my atom based motherboard. It is configured
as a cpu/auth server with fossil+vent filesystem
The band-aid works!!! thanks Erik
--
http://www.fernski.com
2009/8/12 Tim Newsham :
- What software exists for each of these formats?
>>
>> If you are asking about non Plan9 software I'd start with
>> ffmpeg.
>>
- Which format is the most "popular"?
>>
>> I don't think I understand the question.
>
> Sorry, let me rephrase:
> - Of the different au
> The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has a Guitar Hero set up in the
> lobby, but you need to bring your own headphones. I didn't have
> any on me, so tried playing by sight only. It went really poorly.
Our visual perception is very unreliable, whereas our acoustic timing
can be very accurate.
On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
If I"m recalling correctly, SSHv1 is insecure only if the remote
server is
untrusted. Or am I not recalling correctly?
I believe you're correct and that server fingerprinting was introduced
in v2. I asked some friends of mine about it a
Stupid gmail, they hide the smiley and think it's 'quoted text'.
Didn't they learn utf-8?
It's acmematic.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:21 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:24 PM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>>
>> > (Did you ever notice it puts it back when it's done? Error wind
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources,
and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the
use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised
me, to say the least. He even went as f
i found where the 0x20 came from. it should be 20, not 0x20.
anway, it comes from ahci:/^mkalist. l->flags specifies that
the fis is 0x5 dwords = 20 bytes. either i missed the explaination in
the ahci docs about why this is or it's a bit magic.
- erik
Been reading the thread with interest, and I finally have a moment to comment.
I was thinking about this several years ago when I had a lot of spare
time on my hands and wanted to rethink and update the audio interface,
and I think a lot of what you are suggesting sounds similar to the
conclusions
I always get a kick out of this
exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Tim Newsham wrote:
>>> Here's a complete list of audio formats that one can make hardware
>>> either generate or accept. Where do you draw the line?
This is incorrect, you don't "make hardware" do anything, the software
layer that sits on top o
On Thu Aug 13 18:36:41 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> I always get a kick out of this
> exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html
it took me at least 5 seconds to realize that abaco was formatting
that page correctly. ☺
the key to the joke, however, is there is
> > My list was only there to try and prove the point that Russ has
> > made -- pick a most common format and stick with it. Convert
> > everything else into it.
> By this logic, I need to have my application to convert CDROM-XA ADPCM
> audio from a device into PCM just to talk to an interface, whi
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
>
> So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
>> discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
>> proportional fonts for programming in
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 15:52, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> > My list was only there to try and prove the point that Russ has
>> > made -- pick a most common format and stick with it. Convert
>> > everything else into it.
>> By this logic, I need to have my application to convert CDROM-XA ADPCM
>> audi
erik quanstrom wrote:
>>> My list was only there to try and prove the point that Russ has
>>> made -- pick a most common format and stick with it. Convert
>>> everything else into it.
>> By this logic, I need to have my application to convert CDROM-XA ADPCM
>> audio from a device into PCM just to t
> However if you are instead suggesting that it will take time to support
> other formats other than signed 16-bit little-endian samples. I have no
> problem with a driver developer initially starting there leaving it
> incomplete. At least someone has the potential to add such support.
i don't
Since the how-to's are being discussed recently, I thought it would be a good
time to ask:
Once, it used to be the "standard" configuration to have one machine as a
CPU/auth server, one machine as a file server, and one machine as a "terminal",
for a total of three systems, if one had the avail
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Corey wrote:
>
> http://www.p9dp.org/plan9-cpu-auth-server-howto.html
>
> This is likely to be the final draft; it has been optimized in various ways
> and
> I have thoroughly tested it multiple times.
>
> Sure would be terrific if a few folks of varying degrees of
I drawterm all the time. Lately I have started using 9vx for quick
hacks and then cpu from it to wherever I want to go. It has its quirks
(not as stable as drawterm) but I'm not complaining.
With drawterm being so solid and well integrated with X11/OSX I
haven't had the need to dedicate a terminal
On Thursday 13 August 2009 17:36:43 Fernan Bolando wrote:
> I recently used your guide to setup a cpu server. I have to say that
> it was a lot clearer than the wiki version. I did remember needing to
> uncomment the lines below in cpurc based on my old install.
>
> # if(! test -e /rc/bin/service.a
> So, I guess that means venti+fossil+cpu on one headless machine in
> some forgotten corner of the datacentre.
regardless of one's terminal accomidations, i still think it makes
a lot of sense to have a stand-alone fileserver. it really does stink
if your fs goes down for no reason at all. this
no that data center here, but hopefully at a corner of the room
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM, andrey
mirtchovski wrote:
> I drawterm all the time. Lately I have started using 9vx for quick
> hacks and then cpu from it to wherever I want to go. It has its quirks
> (not as stable as drawterm) but
> Once, it used to be the "standard" configuration to have one machine as a
> CPU/auth server, one machine as a file server, and one machine as a
> "terminal", for a total of three systems, if one had the available hardware.
The power in that model comes primarily when you have
a number of termi
erik quanstrom wrote:
>> I don't see the complexity, the interface merely needs to allow device
>> drivers to provide the information such as "I support x y z", the
>> application can query a "features" file, select a format and write back
>> through the interface configuring the hardware. The in
On Thursday 13 August 2009 18:01:03 Corey wrote:
> * finally it is the goal of the howto to be as simple as possible and no
> simpler - Step 5 is straight-forward and internally consistent with the
> rest of the document
>
Just a quick aside, in order to better satisfy the stated goal is why I
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> So, I guess that means venti+fossil+cpu on one headless machine in
>> some forgotten corner of the datacentre.
>
> regardless of one's terminal accomidations, i still think it makes
> a lot of sense to have a stand-alone fileserver. it real
James Tomaschke wrote:
// ...you limit freedom by placing a simple interface into kernelspace.
are you serious?
2009/8/13 James Tomaschke :
> erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>>> I don't see the complexity, the interface merely needs to allow device
>>> drivers to provide the information such as "I support x y z", the
>>> application can query a "features" file, select a format and write back
>>> through the interfac
2009/8/13 Devon H. O'Dell :
> 2009/8/13 James Tomaschke :
>> Rather, your suggestion of forcing a single format, prevents my
>> applications from using other formats, and it requires I implement
>> conversions. This is because you limit freedom by placing a simple
>> interface into kernelspace.
>
> This is what we do at Sandia. We have one machine which serves
> cpu/auth/file, but the actual Venti disks are in a Coraid connected
> via GigE. The fossil disk is in the server, but if it dies we can just
> build a new one.
coraid's configuration using ken's fs is outlined here
http://w
Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> 2009/8/13 James Tomaschke :
>> Rather, your suggestion of forcing a single format, prevents my
>> applications from using other formats, and it requires I implement
>> conversions. This is because you limit freedom by placing a simple
>> interface into kernelspace.
>
> Th
Anthony Sorace wrote:
> James Tomaschke wrote:
>
> // ...you limit freedom by placing a simple interface into kernelspace.
>
> are you serious?
Show me how forcing a single sample format on the user increases their
freedom in developing audio applications.
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 17:36 +0200, hiro wrote:
> > This sounds like exactly the kind of thing one wants
> > from an audio driver for playback. For recording things
> > get slightly more complicated.
>
> What exactly do you mean?
Now that I understand what Tim is trying to do my original
concern m
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote:
> I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp
> variant.
Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua
on Plan9?
Thanks,
Roman.
P.S. The more I look into Lua (as a way to help C refuge start
doin
>Hardware 24...@192khz.
the human ear can't hear as high as that
still, it ought to please any passing bat!
Hi-fi, hi-fi, ...
Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> Hardware 24...@192khz.
>
> the human ear can't hear as high as that
> still, it ought to please any passing bat!
> Hi-fi, hi-fi, ...
So if i instead said 24...@44.1khz would it make any difference on my
argument? please.
You are right, however 192kHz means the DAC bandw
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we?
>>
>> the difference being, 9p is the transport not
>> the representation of the data and 9p has
>> a fixed set of messages.
>>
>
> Also 9p aims at file systems pretty o
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