Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread lucio
> cat /proc/filesystems Returns nodev 9p but "mount -t 9p" returns "Protocol not supported". Is the problem not within "mount"? ++L

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread lucio
> Do > you notice any outstanding differences Well, Intel Atom versus Loongson 2f seems like a significant difference. I don't know enough about the i386 and less about the MIPS R4000 the Loongson is based on, but I know that I haven't yet found a CPU architecture I dislike more then the Intel i3

Re: [9fans] timesync -r not working?

2009-06-29 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 06/27/2009 12:16 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > I'm running plan 9 in qemu, I want to use the qemu-emulated hardware clock > for the plan 9 time because it keeps the same time as the host. > > I made a script to be sourced from cpurc: > > #!/bin/rc > > echo '> starting ti

[9fans] Simplicified Chinese plan 9

2009-06-29 Thread xiantingmanbu
HI,everyone... Is there some ways to input Simplicifed Chinese in Plan 9 ? looking forward for the answer...

Re: [9fans] How to set up network?

2009-06-29 Thread Angelo Papenhoff
Alright, I have now set up a cpu/auth/file server and can login with drawterm. But I have not yet understood the concept of terminals in plan9 and can't find any useful information on it. Can somebody please explain to me what a terminal server in a plan9 network really is and does, I didn't find a

Re: [9fans] Simplicified Chinese plan 9

2009-06-29 Thread Noah Evans
我已经回答你的问题。阅读存档。这是不礼貌重复自己。 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM, xiantingmanbu wrote: > HI,everyone... > Is there some ways to input Simplicifed Chinese in Plan 9 ? > looking forward for the answer... > >

Re: [9fans] How to set up network?

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 29 05:44:58 EDT 2009, kotzkro...@gmail.com wrote: > Alright, > I have now set up a cpu/auth/file server and can login with drawterm. > But I have not yet understood the concept of terminals in plan9 and > can't find any useful information on it. > Can somebody please explain to me what a

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 29 04:52:00 EDT 2009, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > cat /proc/filesystems > > Returns > > nodev 9p > > but "mount -t 9p" returns "Protocol not supported". Is the problem > not within "mount"? i don't know if this helps, but this works for me: # mount -t 9p -o proto'=

Re: [9fans] when to use vac -q -d old.vac instead of simply vac -dold.vac

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:13:09AM +0800, Fernan Bolando wrote: > > Why is -q not a default? Is there a reliability concern with that option? > > It uses an astronomically large amount of memory, if nothing else. > Mirroring a little over 100MB of data from sources with vac -q occupies > roughly

Re: [9fans] Newbie can't get real hardware to boot

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 29 02:09:12 EDT 2009, iking@>>killthewabbit.org<< wrote: there's your problem. ☺ > As I said, I've RTFM'ed and it seems I'm not getting far enough along > in the process to use that info. The machines in question all > recognize the CDROM, provide a line that says "PBS1...", follo

Re: [9fans] timesync -r not working?

2009-06-29 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:31:51 GMT Balwinder S Dheeman wrote: > On 06/27/2009 12:16 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > I'm running plan 9 in qemu, I want to use the qemu-emulated hardware clock > > for the plan 9 time because it keeps the same time as the host. > > > > I made a script to be sourc

Re: [9fans] timesync -r not working?

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> ty. That's what was in my cpurc, I don't know whether as a default or from > tinkering with it a few years ago. I didn't want to load ntp.org with > multiple requests from the same machine. running multiple timesyncs under the same kernel is an error and will result in unpredictable behavior.

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, wrote: >> cat /proc/filesystems > > Returns > >        nodev 9p > > but "mount -t 9p" returns "Protocol not supported".  Is the problem > not within "mount"? > There are actually several modules which work together to provide 9p, there is the 9p file system, the 9

Re: [9fans] p9p acme: incredibly slow typing in tag line for file.

2009-06-29 Thread Russ Cox
The file tags tend to get redrawn in full after every change rather than incrementally like the body does. It has to do with the tag resize calculations, which I haven't gotten quite right. That said, you should be able to redraw the tag more than once per second. Is this with a remote X or some

Re: [9fans] when to use vac -q -d old.vac instead of simply vac -d old.vac

2009-06-29 Thread Russ Cox
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Fernan Bolando wrote: > man vac > "-q    Increase the performance of the -a or -d options by detecting > unchanged files based on a >        match of the files name and other meta data, rather than > examining the contents of the files" > > Why is -q not a default?

[9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread Brad Frank
What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang.

Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/6/29 Brad Frank : > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. EFI, at a minimum.

Re: [9fans] Sam commands in acme

2009-06-29 Thread roger peppe
2009/6/27 Rob Pike : > Deletion is the greatest tool of software design. yes, i always get great pleasure from deleting code. unfortunately the overall line count almost always seems to trend upwards regardless of the amount of code deleted.

Re: [9fans] confusing astro output

2009-06-29 Thread Russ Cox
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > i ran astro -k a 3 times, a few minutes apart > on the same machine.  the results are suprising > > The sun sets at 20:47:50 EDT > The sun sets at 20:47:49 EDT > The sun sets at 20:47:43 EDT > > Comet rises at 23:02:57 EDT > Comet rises at 2

Re: [9fans] Sam commands in acme

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> unfortunately the overall line count almost always seems to trend > upwards regardless of the amount of code deleted. we are unwitting wack-a-mole players. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread lucio
> i don't know if this helps, but this works for me: > # mount -t 9p -o proto'='tcp,name'='root 204.178.31.8 sources Doesn't complain about the protocol, it returns without any messages. I'm now waiting for the result of a directory listing (slow link, traffic shaped on top of a none-too-sta

Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread David Leimbach
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2009/6/29 Brad Frank : > > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on > > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. > > EFI, at a minimum. > > What of rEFIt or Boot Camp? They have BIOS

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> You don't need quotes around the "="s, and a naked "sources" seems > like a recipe for failure. But don't think I'm not thrilled that it > seems to work! you do if the shell you are using is rc. admittedly, this would have looked better # mount -t 9p -o 'proto=tcp,name=root' 204.178.31

Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/6/29 David Leimbach : > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell > wrote: >> >> 2009/6/29 Brad Frank : >> > What kinds of modifications would be necessary to get plan9 booting on >> > intel macs? The latest releases don't seem to boot, they just hang. >> >> EFI, at a minimum. >> > > W

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
shot in the dark: are you root? >> cat /proc/filesystems > > Returns > > nodev 9p > > but "mount -t 9p" returns "Protocol not supported". Is the problem > not within "mount"? > > ++L

Re: [9fans] 9p on Yeeloong (gNewSense Linux)

2009-06-29 Thread lucio
> i've never known any shell on any os to require quoting > of file names consisting of [a-z]+. though i'm sure this illustrates > my ignorance of esoteric and difficult oses. No, the leading "/" is recommended, or the full path, my choice of adjective was unfortunate. And I forgot you may have

Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I accidentally installed a FreeBSD drive in my MacBook. To my surprise, it just worked. If you install a boot drive with the "usual" PC disk partitioning the Macs will boot in what seems to be a fairly complete BIOS emulation. How far Plan9 gets is another story, but my guess is that even if it se

Re: [9fans] p9p acme: incredibly slow typing in tag line for file.

2009-06-29 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Russ Cox wrote: > Is this with a remote > X or some other high latency connection to the > underlying graphics? Right on my laptop. But ubuntu 9.04 is known to have "X issues" and I did not know if this was another one. ron

[9fans] Running Plan 9 on Xen 3.2

2009-06-29 Thread Andreas Eriksen
Using the precompiled PAE kernel from sources in xen 3.2 on debian lenny gives the message Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'elf_xen_addr_calc_check: ERROR: ELF_PADDR_OFFSET set, VIRT_BASE unset\n') Does this mean Plan 9 is not compatible with Xen 3.2, or does it just need a recompile or some

Re: [9fans] Booting plan9 on intel macs

2009-06-29 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > I accidentally installed a FreeBSD drive in my MacBook. To my surprise, > it just worked. If you install a boot drive with the "usual" PC disk > partitioning the Macs will boot in what seems to be a fairly complete > BIOS emulation. > > How