Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-07 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again! The DNS problem only occurs when I try to send from the gmail account I'm using now to the Swedish domain: "spray.se". An empty message comes through ending with a dot . and that's it. Thanks for all your effort to help me out! Kind Greetings, Mats 2014-11-06 20:12 GMT+01:00, Steffen N

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-06 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
erik quanstrom wrote: |On Wed Nov 5 13:20:02 EST 2014, sdao...@yandex.com wrote: |> Anthony Sorace wrote: |>|> I've been looking through the documentation and |>|> the 9fans archive but I can't get a clear answer on |>|> what to replace localhost.localdomain with. |>| |>|If the recipient'

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 5 13:20:02 EST 2014, sdao...@yandex.com wrote: > Anthony Sorace wrote: > |> I've been looking through the documentation and > |> the 9fans archive but I can't get a clear answer on > |> what to replace localhost.localdomain with. > | > |If the recipient's mail server is being stri

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Mats Olsson wrote: |I mean: How can I get the DNS name of my machine using Plan 9 on a |Raspberry Pi? I've tried the names I can come up with but nada. Please |help me out!!! Well i have no idea what your problem is, sorry :) Iirc from back in October you already contacted gmail.com, but the a

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Mats Olsson wrote: |And that could be obtained how? A german squirrel? ? Hm... you could try it... :-)) (for nature.) But unfortunately, in the modern world... Most promising seems to me driving-over by car. And indeed equally shocking stories Erik's father (i think he is) has to tell in his

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Anthony Sorace wrote: |> I've been looking through the documentation and |> the 9fans archive but I can't get a clear answer on |> what to replace localhost.localdomain with. | |If the recipient's mail server is being strict (but within |the bounds of the RFCs), that name is expected to be

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
erik quanstrom wrote: | |on the dissertation "some |aspects of the ethoecology of richardson's ground squirrel" that the two |are directly related. This becomes really interesting. Squirrels.., these girls and boys are really a kind of an occupying sort. Almost addictive. And emphatic. Th

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again! The password I have is one that would be just the same if typed on any western keyboard. So I don't think that this is the problem. The mail gets through to the recipient but it only contains the mailaddress and a dot like . nothing more. Kind greetings, Mats PS I gave up on gmail and

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Mats Olsson
I mean: How can I get the DNS name of my machine using Plan 9 on a Raspberry Pi? I've tried the names I can come up with but nada. Please help me out!!! 2014-11-05 19:21 GMT+01:00, Mats Olsson : > And that could be obtained how? > > 2014-11-04 15:27 GMT+01:00, Steffen Nurpmeso : >> erik quanstrom

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Mats Olsson
And that could be obtained how? 2014-11-04 15:27 GMT+01:00, Steffen Nurpmeso : > erik quanstrom wrote: > | > > |on the dissertation "some > |aspects of the ethoecology of richardson's ground squirrel" that the two > |are directly related. > > This becomes really interesting. Squirrels.., the

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Anthony Sorace
> I've been looking through the documentation and > the 9fans archive but I can't get a clear answer on > what to replace localhost.localdomain with. If the recipient's mail server is being strict (but within the bounds of the RFCs), that name is expected to be the real, externally-resolvable DNS

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-05 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again Y'all! Sad to say I haven't been able to send a mail with any content more than a . using Acme (desåite all the help I've received from you guys; thanks by the way). It seems that the problem is the domain name. With localhost.localdomain I get a mail through to the recipient but I get er

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Oct 31 14:10:52 EDT 2014, sdao...@yandex.com wrote: > erik quanstrom wrote: > > |that thread's about p9p not plan 9, and i don't see the error \ > |at hand in the output. > > Well i do see hints from Erik. In that thread, that is. > I consider that is.. something.. oh, yes. i see now

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Nov 1 08:25:30 EDT 2014, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: > On 27 October 2014 19:10, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > it's not complicated. permissions work like unix. > > > It's actually simpler but more powerful: groups are just users with members > instead of a distinct thing; membersh

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> Type the line: > ;upas/smtp -d -a -h localhost.localdomain net!smtp.spray.se plan9.meo@gmail > x...@spray.se > i haven't done this by hand for a while but i see a few problems 1. -h localhost.localdomain violates the rfc. the rfc demands that the (E)HELO line contain a name that's resolvab

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread trebol
You must set the dot to all the text (mark all the text, for example type ':,' in the tag line and click it with buttom 3) and then execute in the tag '>upas/smtp -d -a ...' Don't forget the '>', read acme(1). trebol.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi all! I can't get through to any gmail account however I try but I got through to another account but the mail was not containing anything. I must be doing something wrong. I've tried like this: term % acme -f /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/latin1.10.font (I like this font in acme) Delete the l

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-03 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi all! I can't get through to any gmail account however I try but I got through to another account but the mail was not containing anything. I must be doing something wrong. I've tried like this: term % acme -f /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/latin1.10.font (I like this font in acme) Detete the l

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-01 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 27 October 2014 19:10, erik quanstrom wrote: > it's not complicated. permissions work like unix. It's actually simpler but more powerful: groups are just users with members instead of a distinct thing; membership of a group is checked by the relevant file server and not the local kernel; gr

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-01 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 1 November 2014 00:14, Anthony Martin wrote: > > account is no longer protected by modern security standards." > > > And they tout OAuth2 instead? What could possibly go wrong?

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-01 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
embrace, extend, snuff? :) if anyone wants to give it a try, there is enough Go code -- packages and samples -- to make it less painful. here's a sample [0] OAuth2-based web server ("resource provider") that works with Google ("identity provider"). it runs on Plan 9, but each instance will need i

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-11-01 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Anthony! Very informative link, thanks! Kind greetings, Mats 2014-11-01 1:14 GMT+01:00, Anthony Martin : > Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> once said: >> - finally, after receiving a "Google Account: sign-in attempt blocked" >> email from google, followed their suggestion to: >> >> "change

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Anthony Martin
Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> once said: > - finally, after receiving a "Google Account: sign-in attempt blocked" > email from google, followed their suggestion to: > > "change your settings at > https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps so that your > account is no longer

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again Richard! Thanks a lot for your advise! Will try it out ASAP. Yours Sincerely, Mats 2014-10-31 22:14 GMT+01:00, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com>: > To send mail from acme on native Plan 9 via gmail, this is what just > worked for me: > > - make sure the last line of /mail/lib/rewrite

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Miller
To send mail from acme on native Plan 9 via gmail, this is what just worked for me: - make sure the last line of /mail/lib/rewrite is ([^!]*)!(.*)| "/mail/lib/qmail '\s' 'net!$smtp'" "'\2@\1'" - change /mail/lib/remotemail to add the '-a' flag to smtp exec /bin/upas/s

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Steve! Thanks for your reply! I'll check it out ASAP. When it comes to the (*) sign I put it there as a substitution for a character that looked like a really jagged and pixelized backwards euro sign that I just dont know what it means. Thanks again! Kind Regards, Mats 2014-10-31 20:35 GMT+01

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Quintile
sorry for the delay, it's 1/2 term and I have kids to entertain. the (*) would print as a carriage return if your font had the character. I am on my phone here so no manuals , but I wonder if gmail objects to plain passwords over an unencrypted link? I think SMTP has a flag to force tls on, and

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
erik quanstrom wrote: |that thread's about p9p not plan 9, and i don't see the error \ |at hand in the output. Well i do see hints from Erik. In that thread, that is. I consider that is.. something.. --steffen

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Mats Olsson
I have read bits of it before and now just about all. It's kind of confusing since some are using different ports of Plan 9 and to figure out what would apply on my setup on the Raspberry Pi. Have copied some thoughts that seems useful and will ponder over them. Thanks for your help! Since I'm new

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Mats Olsson wrote: |error message keeps coming up. Don't know what to do next. If anyone |has a solution to this problem I would be truly grateful to receive |it. Even if it's just a hint how to solve it. Have you read this thread already?

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Oct 31 09:10:50 EDT 2014, sdao...@yandex.com wrote: > Mats Olsson wrote: > > |error message keeps coming up. Don't know what to do next. If anyone > |has a solution to this problem I would be truly grateful to receive > |it. Even if it's just a hint how to solve it. > > Have you read t

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi trebol! Thanks for your response! Will check it out ASAP. Kind Regards, Mats 2014-10-31 11:59 GMT+01:00, trebol : > You can try other smtp server. If the problem is in the authorization > with Google, remember that you can use heirloom's mailx. I compiled it in > plan9 some time ago, and I

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread trebol
You can try other smtp server. If the problem is in the authorization with Google, remember that you can use heirloom's mailx. I compiled it in plan9 some time ago, and I don't remember any trouble. The configuration is a child game. Good luck. trebol.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread trebol
Mats Olsson wrote: > Hi all of you! > > Thanks for all the help you've given me to get this far using the Plan > 9 OS on a Raspberry Pi! I can now retrieve mail from the gmail > accounts I've tried. It works well but, even though it doesn't make > sense to me, I can't send e-mail to those account

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-31 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi all of you! Thanks for all the help you've given me to get this far using the Plan 9 OS on a Raspberry Pi! I can now retrieve mail from the gmail accounts I've tried. It works well but, even though it doesn't make sense to me, I can't send e-mail to those accounts. I just get the error message

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Erik! FYI my middle name is Erik. I'm kind of leaning towards an ssl problem since gmail require ssl to receive e-mail. 2014-10-30 17:11 GMT+01:00, Mats Olsson : > Well that is what I meant with changing configuration since the level > of security was lowered with this action. In other words s

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Mats Olsson
Well that is what I meant with changing configuration since the level of security was lowered with this action. In other words security configuration. 2014-10-30 17:00 GMT+01:00, erik quanstrom : > could it be that with recent ssl/tls bugs, and the general fix being to > turn > sslv3 off, plan 9 s

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread erik quanstrom
could it be that with recent ssl/tls bugs, and the general fix being to turn sslv3 off, plan 9 ssl isn't up to talking to gmail? - erik

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Mats Olsson : Yes, I did and I made changes in the configuration of that mail box accordingly but it still does give the same error message. That website doesn't say anything about changing configuration. Did you perform the unlock captcha? khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Mats Olsson
Yes, I did and I made changes in the configuration of that mail box accordingly but it still does give the same error message. 2014-10-30 15:08 GMT+01:00, Kurt H Maier : > Quoting Mats Olsson : > >> 535 – 5.7.8 Username and Password bot accepted. Learn more at (*) >> 535 5.7.8 http://support.googl

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Mats Olsson : 535 – 5.7.8 Username and Password bot accepted. Learn more at (*) 535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 Did you read the linked web page? khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-30 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Steve! First I want to mention that I've added the login information to factotum prior to trying to send an e-mail from Acme. I open a new window in Acme and type in the body of the mail. Afterward I type in the tag line: ;upas/smtp -d -a -h localhost.localdomain net!smtp.gmail.com mye-mail rec

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-29 Thread Steve Simon
Can you send the complete log when sending the email. You can prevent the window that appears when sending mail by teaching factotum the passwords for your mail provider. Just so we can see the complete conversation with gmail and get a better understanding of what went wrong. I assume you have

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-29 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again! Forgot to mention that I've installed the sha fingerprint for the smtp.gmail.server. -Mats 2014-10-29 22:43 GMT+01:00, Mats Olsson : > Hi guys! > > OK, now I can get my mail but not send mail. This is what I've done: > Changed the header file in /mail/box/$user/headers (since it >

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-29 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi guys! OK, now I can get my mail but not send mail. This is what I've done: Changed the header file in /mail/box/$user/headers (since it didn't exist i filled in the below). Added my login information to factotum according to the docs. Sent email to the server like this: ;u

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 27 12:34:58 EDT 2014, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > one does not have to put eve in adm or especially sys. in fact, i think > > this > > makes one's system significantly less secure. > > It's complicated, in that access controls are enforced by distinct > entities with potentially v

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-27 Thread lucio
> one does not have to put eve in adm or especially sys. in fact, i think this > makes one's system significantly less secure. It's complicated, in that access controls are enforced by distinct entities with potentially very distinct criteria. Trying to conceive all possible combination of clien

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> Under plan9 the user who boots a machine has rights to its filesystem, > so unless you are accessing a remote plan9 file server which is running > an auth server I doubt your problems are to do with administration rights. in practice, it often works out this way. especially because the file ser

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-23 Thread Mats Olsson
I've deleted fortune now so it doesn't confuse or distract me. 2014-10-23 23:03 GMT+02:00, Winston Kodogo : > Well, to clarify, in the old days, if a Windows function call failed, you'd > call GetLastError to get a numerical error code, and FormatMessage to get a > string describing the error, So

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-23 Thread Winston Kodogo
Well, to clarify, in the old days, if a Windows function call failed, you'd call GetLastError to get a numerical error code, and FormatMessage to get a string describing the error, So if the error code was 0, meaning that the windows call succeeded, FormatMessage would return "The operation complet

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-23 Thread Charles Forsyth
It was actually the output of fortune. On 23 Oct 2014 21:47, "Winston Kodogo" wrote: > Now I'm even more confused than normal. "cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: > The operation completed successfully." > > This is a Windows error message? > > On 23 October 2014 09:04, Quintile wrote: > >> I fear

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-23 Thread Winston Kodogo
Now I'm even more confused than normal. "cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully." This is a Windows error message? On 23 October 2014 09:04, Quintile wrote: > I fear a gnu style recursive definition coming on... > > -Steve > > > > > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 19:14, Ski

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Quintile
I fear a gnu style recursive definition coming on... -Steve > On 22 Oct 2014, at 19:14, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > i think this situation is more fortune-worthy than the fortune that caused it. > > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mats Olsson wrote: >> I kind of had a feeling it was

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
i think this situation is more fortune-worthy than the fortune that caused it. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mats Olsson wrote: > I kind of had a feeling it was that way because when installing again > on another card, I got another message with this: If you think out > loud you're about to

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Mats Olsson
I kind of had a feeling it was that way because when installing again on another card, I got another message with this: If you think out loud you're about to get a lot of ememies; as the bottom line (don't remember the exact words). 2014-10-22 17:12 GMT+02:00, Kurt H Maier : > Quoting Charles Fors

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Charles Forsyth : On 22 October 2014 15:34, Kurt H Maier wrote: Quoting Mats Olsson : cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. this exact error message is in the fortunes file. oh well, that explains that: obviously the rio start-up on the pi ru

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 22 October 2014 15:34, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Mats Olsson : > > > cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. >> > > this exact error message is in the fortunes file. oh well, that explains that: obviously the rio start-up on the pi runs fortunes, to aid de

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Mats Olsson : cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. this exact error message is in the fortunes file. khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Mats Olsson
That makes two of us. 2014-10-22 15:29 GMT+02:00, Charles Forsyth : > On 22 October 2014 13:24, Mats Olsson wrote: > >> Don't kill the messenger! > > > No, not at all! I couldn't work out what you could be running to cause > that. >

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 22 October 2014 13:24, Mats Olsson wrote: > Don't kill the messenger! No, not at all! I couldn't work out what you could be running to cause that.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Simon
> cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. You using cinap's cpud for windows? > calendar: can't open /usr/glenda/lib/calendar: '/usr/glenda/lib/calendar' > does not exist You just need to create it. touch /usr/glenda/lib/calendar see calendar(1) -Steve

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Mats Olsson
Don't kill the messenger! 2014-10-22 12:35 GMT+02:00, Charles Forsyth : > On 22 October 2014 11:32, Charles Forsyth > wrote: > >> That "The operation completed successfully" is not a native Plan 9 >> message, surely? >> It looks like a Linux message. And it's stupid. >> > > My mistake: it's a Win

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 22 October 2014 11:32, Charles Forsyth wrote: > That "The operation completed successfully" is not a native Plan 9 > message, surely? > It looks like a Linux message. And it's stupid. > My mistake: it's a Windows error. Is it someone's new value for Egreg?

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 22 October 2014 10:06, Mats Olsson wrote: > cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. > That "The operation completed successfully" is not a native Plan 9 message, surely? It looks like a Linux message. And it's stupid.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-22 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Steve! Thanks a lot! Now auth/fgui is running from start. But I got some error messages though. The shell window that came up looked like this: cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. calendar: can't open /usr/glenda/lib/calendar: '/usr/glenda/lib/calendar' does

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-21 Thread k0ga
Hi, This is my first post in the list, so it is also my presentation. > > Tried again with different setups in and I didn't get any > error messages sometimes but auth/fgui didn't start but it works just > fine manually. Maybe it's a Raspberry Pi thing. I am running plan9 in a raspberry and I

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-21 Thread Steve Simon
Hi, Definitely not a raspberry pi thing. I use a raspberry pi at home as a terminal and start auth/fgui from my startup script just as you are retuing to do. Try replicating my environment: Attached are my scripts: startup - what I call riostart logwin - starts first terminal

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-21 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again! Tried again with different setups in and I didn't get any error messages sometimes but auth/fgui didn't start but it works just fine manually. Maybe it's a Raspberry Pi thing. Kind regards from a cold Sweden, meo 2014-10-20 20:44 GMT+02:00, Mats Olsson : > Hi! > > Sorry for the confus

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi! Sorry for the confusion! It's easier for me to compile a kernel in linux than understand the basics of Plan 9. So, yes you're right, Plan 9 is different. But I won't give up so easy so thanks for your patience with a 15+ years linux user trying to grasp something completely different. Thanks S

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Quintile
FYI I'm Steve😄 I think some misunderstanding lib/riostart refers to a file in the lib directory in your home dir, as Rio is started in your home did. /lib/riostart is a different file. when rc(1) searches for command it does not strip the leading path like sh(1) does, so you can run commands lik

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again Peter! Thanks for your patience. I did "chmod +x /path to/riostart" but I still get the error message that follows: lib/script '/bin/lib' file does not exist . Since the script is in /lib I don't get the meaning of < '/bin/lib' file does not exist>. Well /bin/lib doesn't exist but /lib/sc

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again Peter! Thanks for your patience. I did "chmod +x /path to/riostart" but I still get the error message that follows: lib/script '/bin/lib* file does not exist . Since the script is in /lib I don't get the meaning of < '/bin/lib' file does not exist>. Well /bin/lib doesn't exist but /lib/sc

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi again Peter! Thanks for your patience. I did "chmod +x /path to/riostart but I still get the error message that follows: lib/script '/bin/lib* file does not exist . Since the script is in /lib I don't get the meaning of < '/bin/lib* file does not exist>. Well /bin/lib doesn't exist but /lib/scr

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Steve Simon
Under plan9 the user who boots a machine has rights to its filesystem, so unless you are accessing a remote plan9 file server which is running an auth server I doubt your problems are to do with administration rights. Somtimes plan9 will produce slightly misleading error messages, permission denie

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Peter! I've tried the suggestion from your first post excluding $font and that made rio execute but I get a "permission denied" when it comes to running the script. I'm running as the default user Glenda on my Raspberry Pi. So how can I get administrative permissions? I've tried to create anoth

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread P. D. Finn
One more thing, for the line: exec rio -f $font -i lib/script make sure $font is correctly set or the exec of rio will fail. You can use that variable to set a different default font for rio if you like. Since you can run rio in a regular window, test the command out that way before you put it

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-20 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi Peter! Thanks a lot for your information. This will help me further to configure Plan 9 OS on the Raspberry Pi. Thanks agai! I really appreciate this info. Kind Greetings, Mats 2014-10-20 0:26 GMT+02:00, P. D. Finn : >>OK now I can receive email in Acme in Plan 9 for the Raspberry Pi. I'm >>t

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-19 Thread P. D. Finn
>OK now I can receive email in Acme in Plan 9 for the Raspberry Pi. I'm >trying to get auth/fgui to start automatically when I start Plan 9. >Have tried to put it into the profile file but it doesn't work. Any >hints greatly appreciated. auth/fgui requires Rio, so it needs to load after Rio has st

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-19 Thread Mats Olsson
OK now I can receive email in Acme in Plan 9 for the Raspberry Pi. I'm trying to get auth/fgui to start automatically when I start Plan 9. Have tried to put it into the profile file but it doesn't work. Any hints greatly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mats 2014-10-15 15:00 GMT+02:00, trebol : > Steff

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
trebol wrote: |For a external imap server, like gmail, you can compile heirloom's mailx |with ape. Works nice with the plumber, and setting the pager to cat |it integrates nice within acme, a rio window or 9term. I use it also So you like the bad girls honey,.. Is that true. --steffen

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-15 Thread trebol
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > trebol wrote: > |For a external imap server, like gmail, you can compile heirloom's mailx > |with ape. Works nice with the plumber, and setting the pager to cat > |it integrates nice within acme, a rio window or 9term. I use it also > > So you like the bad girls ho

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-15 Thread trebol
For a external imap server, like gmail, you can compile heirloom's mailx with ape. Works nice with the plumber, and setting the pager to cat it integrates nice within acme, a rio window or 9term. I use it also in p9p, until I meet a nice alternative. trebol.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Dear Anthony, On 14 October 2014 20:40, Anthony Sorace wrote: > After that, I can run "Mail box1" and "Mail box2" in Acme, and both are > updated as one would expect. Faces, which was started earlier and needs > to know about specific mailbox names to monitor, is not. > > The message you cited im

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Winston Kodogo
Skip was being sarcastic? Who knew??? But in answer to Steve's question, the only things I would add to Plan9 are a mail program and Web browser that I can work out how to use even in the trance-like state of supreme enlightenment that can only be achieved when one has consumed far too much gin. A

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Oh, I knew that... :( :( :( On 10/14/2014 04:03 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: Wes, i was being sarcastic in my reply to the suggestion that iCloud (or any iSplat) products should be emulated on Plan 9. -Skip On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Wes Kussmaul > wrot

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Wes, i was being sarcastic in my reply to the suggestion that iCloud (or any iSplat) products should be emulated on Plan 9. -Skip On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > Skip, why settle for "might even be secure" while using the platform of > one of the companies that makes a

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Skip, why settle for "might even be secure" while using the platform of one of the companies that makes a practice of burglarizing your information home? Why not use something like SpiderOak https://spideroak.com/?utm_expid=14446725-7.EXfixEIwRZmffqInbsytsg.0 - which lets you keep and contro

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Anthony Sorace
Ruda: Just now, I tried this: : root; cd /mail/fs : root; lf ctl mbox/ : root; echo 'open /imap/mail.foo.org/anth...@foo.org box1' > ctl : root; lf box1/ ctl mbox/ : root; lf box1 1/ 15/ 19/ 22/

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> > tested with nupas, and it does work. the default folder seperator in upas > > is /, > > as one would expect, since "folder" is just a windows-centric synonym for > > directory. one can make + work too by adding a rewrite rule for it. > > > > - erik > > > > http://9fans.net/archive/2012/12/6

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 13 22:42:58 EDT 2014, kod...@gmail.com wrote: > Much as I love Plan9, only a masochist would use it for email.I agreed with > Carmack as recently as 1997: "I spent a few months running Plan9. It has an > achingly elegent internal structure, but a user interface that has been > asleep for

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 14 October 2014 17:22, erik quanstrom wrote: >> -- Running imap with multiple mboxes (folders or whatever) did not work >> for me (only one of them was updated). > > tested with nupas, and it does work. the default folder seperator in upas is > /, > as one would expect, since "folder" is just

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> -- Running imap with multiple mboxes (folders or whatever) did not work > for me (only one of them was updated). tested with nupas, and it does work. the default folder seperator in upas is /, as one would expect, since "folder" is just a windows-centric synonym for directory. one can make + w

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> -- Threading did not work properly. > > Folks have put this into the readers, but I don't use it and haven't > evaluated it. nupas maintains References:, so i believe threading should work if you use a threading reader. so it would notbe hard to set up a command to collect the references and

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Richard Miller
> -- When something went wrong during 'sending' from acme Mail, I did not > get any information that the mail had not been sent. acme/mail sends by handing messages to upas/marshal, and doesn't check for return status. The assumption is probably that if marshal fails, you'll see its sysfatal mess

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Anthony Sorace
The mail I mostly read from Plan 9 is hosted on Plan 9, but I've done IMAP with it as well. -- Running imap with multiple mboxes (folders or whatever) did not work for me (only one of them was updated). This is almost certainly a configuration issue. It's not exactly clear what you mean by "was

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Simon
Ok, I don't use acme so most of those issues don't appear for me. Also, I do run a server so mail is delivered to my machine and I connect to it from iphones/ipads/etc etc when I want to use those devcies. Most often I just use plan9 to read mail. searching in nedmail is more limited I agree, yo

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, On 14 October 2014 11:09, Steve Simon wrote: > What features do you need that plan9 is missing (honest question)? Since I can't run a dedicated mail server and I want to be able to read mail from anywhere, I have to use imap/pop3 from some server I have no control over. So I use google's

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Simon
> Much as I love Plan9, only a masochist would use it for email Interesting, thats me then I guess - though I have never thought of myself in those terms. I send mail using mail(1)/marshal(1), never had a problem with it. To receive mail I use faces which I find much more useful than most modern

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-13 Thread Winston Kodogo
i9factotum? It's a go! On 14 October 2014 16:08, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > iCloud! Yes! Let's do that! It might even be secure on Plan 9 :) > On Oct 13, 2014 8:01 PM, "Winston Kodogo" wrote: > >> https://www.apple.com/nz/support/icloud/mail-notes/ >> >> Sorry, not a patch as such. >> >> >> On 1

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-10-13 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
iCloud! Yes! Let's do that! It might even be secure on Plan 9 :) On Oct 13, 2014 8:01 PM, "Winston Kodogo" wrote: > https://www.apple.com/nz/support/icloud/mail-notes/ > > Sorry, not a patch as such. > > > On 14 October 2014 15:51, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >> Quoting Winston Kodogo : >> >> Much as

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