Brad,
Fantastic work! Thank you.
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> A corresponding update to dnsdebug is in
> https://github.com/rsc/plan9/commit/1d0642ae493bf5ce798a6aa64a745bc6316baa11
> (David, you don't have that one yet, I just wrote it).
Thanks. I've just added your ndb/dnsdebug change to 9legacy.
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That’s a very creative and somewhat intuitive way to build a bridge!
Nicely done! (But you already knew that!)
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> On Feb 13, 2025, at 8:21 PM, Nicola Girardi via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> Quoth Alyssa M via 9fan
I'm using a modified Inferno acme because I'm used to having keyboard shortcuts
for things like undo/redo and more conventional document navigation. Some of
this was borrowed from this fork of plan9port:
https://github.com/lmumar/plan9port/tree/master/src/cmd/acme
I didn't get too far doing things with USB on the Pi. Inferno at least borrows
code from 9pi to behave as a USB host, and it's fairly simple to get it to talk
to devices.
I've done simple work to make Inferno behave as a USB device on a couple of
systems. Hopefully I can make progress with the R
You can probably use some flavour of Plan 9 on a Pi Zero variant to do the
authentication stuff, if you're OK with running that on ARM cores attached to a
media processor running a variant of ThreadX. Other similar form factor boards
are available.
You could also run Inferno on a smaller system
dered using an
existing device class instead of doing something 9p-specific.
It reminded me a bit of u-root.
David
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Sorry for the stream of consciousness that follows (kinda or I wouldn’t post it)Generally, on time slicing systems you cannot simply assign threads to cores 1:1 and expect to get the best efficiency for a long running process. Usually your wall clock times end up being reduced by oversubscribing C
I put rEFIt on my dell and boot it from thereSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 27, 2025, at 11:29 AM, Paul Lalonde wrote:Thank Ori and Moody.I've started walking through making my custom iso and efi partition. Reasonably straightforward, though I get this error when building:fluxcpu% disk/mk9660 -c9j -B
> "Historical" note: David David du Colombier's 9legacy have patches
> coming from nix applied (and some reverted)
Roughly speaking, Nix is based on a version of Jim McKie's 9k from early 2011.
Jim McKie later retrieved some improvements from Nix to its own 9k tree,
es
Like a vector clock might?
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> On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:32 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i believe that assumes a state exists in the universe where they are "in
> step"
>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 2:14 AM Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>>
>> If mouse clic
I adapted some existing code in the Inferno Pi port to work with a USB Ethernet
adapter I have, based on a Realtek RTL8152B controller, that also works as a
USB hub. The code originally came from 9legacy. The trick I had to do was to
tell the adapter to use the USB configuration for CDC (Communi
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:49 PM wrote:
>
> "David L. Craig" wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I put together "The Virtual Plan 9 Cookbook"
> > (http://dlcusa.net/vp9cb-9pio)
> > years ago to address this newbie need. But there was no way to point it
> >
On 24Aug04:1319+0200, sirjofri wrote:
>
> I remember that I invested a full year reading documentation etc (everything
> I could find), without really touching the system. It can take a long time to
> understand enough to
+install and maintain a full plan 9 system. Unlike linux, you probably
need
You might try the developers mailing list plan9port-...@googlegroups.com as well
d
> On 20 Jun 2024, at 22:53, Roderick wrote:
>
> Dear Sirs!
>
> I hope, I can also ask here about Plan9 port ...
>
> I just compiled master from on FreeBSD14.0:
> https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/
>
> Is th
> Responding off list shortly :)
I'd like to be included into the discussion as well.
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which are written in Python 3.
So the CI will depend on Python to build Go and run tests.
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> I have a question: where is the *best* place to be sent a patch for
> 9legacy? replica? GitHub? or here?
You can send it by e-mail to me.
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I'd be very pleased if someone could port the
dp9ik authentication protocol to 9legacy.
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It's in many of the related branches in my fork:
https://github.com/dboddie/inferno-os
My changes have recently been merged into the official mirror of Inferno on
GitHub as well:
https://github.com/inferno-os/inferno-os
If you have any trouble building the latest Inferno sources it will probably b
I wasn't able to push my IWP9 slides to GitHub until late last week, so here
they are for those who are interested:
https://github.com/dboddie/inferno-cortex-m-paper
The slides and paper from the previous year are also available:
https://github.com/dboddie/inferno-freeze-slides
> The vetting process needs some work, lads.
More heresy than trolling, perhaps?
It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session
afterwards.
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Depending on the implementation of the file system, openat vs open can be more efficient if there’s a lot of metadata locking for file creation.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 6, 2024, at 1:36 PM, ron minnich wrote:openat gives you the effect of 'cd path; open file' without having to cd. I don't see a
> Sorry the receiver was
>
> ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com
plan9.bell-labs.com doesn't exist anymore. This is probably a remnant of the
former website.
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Hmm, this should work.
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> Do you know who I have to contact for registration ? The mail I sent to
> p9f/9p.io couldn't be delivered.
You can contact me with your desired username.
What e-mail address did you try?
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> How can I create an account and a folder on p9f in the contrib path ?
I don't think you can have a contrib account on p9f, but you can get
a contrib account at 9p.io.
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> On 26 Jan 2024, at 07:38, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
<…>
> If you have specific ways we can support people like you
> taking up the torch and carrying plan 9 development forward,
> please speak up and let us know; I'll ensure that it gets
> discussed at the next P9F meeting.
Is there any recor
Or you could just run 9front?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 24, 2024, at 10:48 AM, alex...@posteo.de wrote:
Hello everyone,I would like to know which hardware (apart from the hardware listed here: https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html) is supported by Plan 9. Is there any experie
Did you get any further with this? I'm interested in attempting a port
of Inferno to an ESP32 board I've just picked up.
Learning the instruction set is going to be interesting.
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an force the compiler to reload the
> register by replacing
>
> return y;
>
> with
>
> return *(&y);
Thanks for the workaround. The FDLIBM readme file suggests hacking on the
__HI, __LO, __HIp and __LOp macros, so I'll see what I can come up with.
g into the problem when I next get a
chance.
In the meantime, I turned off "registerization" for files that could
potentially have similar code.
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the right thing.
Having said that, so does 8c, as far as I can tell.
Any thoughts?
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> What does the # and the P mean?
It means it's a kernel device. You can list all the kernel devices by doing:
% cat /etc/drivers
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> Just curious if 9Legacy is considered the right place to submit modern
> patches? Is that kind of the 'go to' repository for modern
> patches/improvements to the 'mainline' Bell Labs distro?
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> Mojave... Another interesting project would be seeing if it could be
> modified to work as a 64-bit binary but still running a 32-bit
> environment on the inside...
I'm using 9vx daily, but o
I made a GitHub Action to build Inferno on Ubuntu 22.04:
https://github.com/dboddie/inferno-test-builds/blob/hosted-386/.github/workflows/ubuntu-22-04.yml
I didn't manage to produce something simple, small and self-contained that
could be downloaded, though you could use the steps to build your ow
I haven't actually tried the docker images.
It should be possible to build a 386 version of Inferno on Ubuntu 21.04 and,
with more effort, on 22.10. I haven't tried on 22.04. I'll take a quick look.
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Maybe these docker images are useful?
https://groups.google.com/g/inferno-os/c/CdJ-N8cVZY8
Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
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ls /mnt/font
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of my notes are available here:
http://9grid.fr/plan9/ipaq_h3650/
I think it should still work with the current ARM toolchain.
The kernel probably requires some minor changes.
I've never tried Inferno on iPAQ however.
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Deli
ellent mouse. The shape and
buttons are perfect for me.
Some caveats, though-- it has a "smart scroll" feature which stimulates
inertial scrolling. I have since learned to like it, but initially you will
absolutely hate it.
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I use a big heavy trackball. Kensington pro trackball is pricey but you get
four buttons and a scroll ring.
Got my first one well over 10 years ago and it’s still my daily driver. I have
a second wireless one on a Mac. The wired one is better overall if you can get
them. The wireless one can wo
> On Jan 29, 2022, at 8:03 AM, ibrahim via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> And I believe that the reason why NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD are not as wide
> spread as Linux was the lack of a compiler suite conforming to the BSD license
For some people it’s because they didn’t have a math coproc
I've pushed some code to a git repository:
https://gitlab.com/dboddie/bare-metal-stm32f405
I'll write more about it as I tidy it up.
David
On Saturday, 29 January 2022 03:08:31 CET David Boddie wrote:
> On Saturday, 29 January 2022 02:04:18 CET Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BB
27;re doing that? This is something
> I'd like to take for a spin.
I quickly wrote up something that is hopefully useful:
https://dboddie.gitlab.io/inferno-diary/2022-01-29.html
I'll add more over the weekend.
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and static base registers, copy
data into RAM, and jump into main.
I have some functions for setting up clocks, GPIOs and the USART. This is
currently in a separate repository for bare metal tests. I'll push that up
to GitLab.
David
On Friday, 28 January 2022 22:46:28 CET Tony Mendoza wrot
to build bare metal code for a STM32F405 MCU thanks
to some hints from Charles Forsyth.
I'm currently trying to add FP support and learn about compiler internals.
It also means learning about Thumb-2, which is quite alien for an old-school
ARM coder.
David
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at this point we've ruled
> out the 9legacy kernel as the culprit.
If it works with 9front, the issue is definitely on our side.
Our Virtio drivers are very close to 9front's, so I suspect
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x27;t sound very promising.
This message is displayed by the boot loader (pcboot).
There is no user space at that point.
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I think the issue is elsewhere, since I've tried on QEMU with
both Virtio 1.0 and Virtio legacy and it worked as expected
(386 and amd64 kernels).
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Thanks cinap_lenrek.
I've just imported Virtio 1.0 support to 9legacy.
Lyndon, please try the latest CD image and let me know if it works for you.
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er available as part of 9legacy is up to date
compared to 9front, so the issue is probably elsewhere.
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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:01 PM, fwrm via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, at 9:31 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
>> Try in the tagline
>> Edit ,|fold -s -w80
>> Highlight it and middle click it.
>
Try in the tagline
Edit ,|fold -s -w80
Highlight it and middle click it.
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> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:20 AM, revcomni...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> I would like to be able to break up long lines in sam in a way similar to the
> way I break them up in ed. For ed, I rely on the ext
from Bell Labs
if it was still maintained.
Also, NIX is not maintained anymore. However, there are
some other variants of 9k (the 64-bit Plan 9 kernel), including
the one available as part of 9legacy, that are still in progress.
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No problem!
It seems acme does work ok, but it uses XQuartz.
It’s been so long since I’ve used inferno I’ve forgotten how to get started!
Dave
> On Jul 30, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Joseph Stewart wrote:
>
> Good job friend. Thanks for doing this.
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:26 AM leimy2k via 9f
The /lib/sky/here file hasn't been changed since the
First Edition and there are only three numbers.
https://github.com/plan9foundation/plan9/commits/main/lib/sky/here
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The fourth number looks like a mistake.
astro(1) only parses the first three numbers.
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> Anyone have any idea what might use that?
This file is used by astro(1). The values are latitude, longitude and elevation.
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this patch.
On the other side, the venti-p9p patch includes more experimental
changes, like the support of blocks larger than 56 KB. I wouldn't
recommend this patch.
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> This reminds me: is the #plan9 channel on oftc the new home of #plan9?
No, it's #plan9 on libera.chat.
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do it.
In the meantime, I think you can periodically download
and mount the CD image and run replica/pull from it
to update your system.
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> I see, then is more easy than I thought. I was going to ask you if
> you wanted to include the rc patch sent to the list from 9front,
> but I saw just now that is already there, that was fast!
Yes, I saw the patch in the other thread, so I've added it.
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> I was importing rc-line-split.diff from 9legacy and I realized that
> it is applied after rc-badrunes.diff.
>
> How are the dependencies of the patches noticed?
The patches apply in order. Some are independent,
but some are depending on other patches.
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> Then, I suspect /amd64/bin/6l has some problem.
The issue is not in 6l, but in the amd64 kernel.
The amd64 kernel still has some issues to be fixed.
I'd recommend to use the 386 kernel in the meantime.
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> How I can make diffs for those?
You can generate a diff against /n/sources, using "ape/diff -Nru",
then send it to me.
Example:
9fs sources
ape/diff -Nru /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libdraw /sys/src/libdraw
>/tmp/libdraw.diff
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this issue a couple of days ago. The most recent archives
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9vx uses vx32 or
> am I wrong ?
9vx was recently re-licensed under MIT license, but vx32 remains under LGPL.
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/go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tbz
> Is the kernel working right?
> What is 4100M loast?
This kernel doesn't handle more than 4 GB of memory,
so this is expected.
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> may be offtopic but now I'm just curious :-) what's wwb ?
Writer's Workbench.
https://archive.org/details/wwb-user
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David
Sent from my phone. Please excuse misspellings and terseness.
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:34 AM, ron minnich wrote:
>
> The LPL is dead. It died when all the Plan 9 IP was transferred to the
> foundation.
>
> Nokia is out of the picture.
>
> So let's
> The 4e and 4e-latest tarballs are identical. Is this intentional?
This should be fixed now. Thanks for reporting.
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realemu into 9k would be nice.
I've just checked and 9legacy already supports VESA graphics on
amd64, using aux/realemu (started automatically when monitor=vesa).
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> 9k?
9k is the original 64-bit Plan 9 kernel written by Jim McKie at Bell Labs.
It has been developed at Bell Labs (with external contributions) from 2005
to 2013 approximately, and has been part of 9legacy since 2016.
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> If you'd get success to port 9front's tlsclient, 9legacy has no gui terminal
> for amd64, even on vesa mode, then next is to port realemu etc...
9legacy amd64 kernel supports graphical terminal, but it doesn't
indeed support VESA yet. Implementing realemu into 9k would b
> When I got git9 working on 9legacy, I backported a couple
> of utilities and changes:
>
> /n/sources/patch/walk
> /n/sources/patch/rc-line-split
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> You could also make the correction to the man page for spi(3)
> in your patch bcm-brian-man:
Fixed. Thanks!
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I've just updated the aux-wpa and factotum-wpa patches,
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o submit a patch.
9legacy includes a patch to 9fs which replaces plan9.bell-labs.com
by 9p.io.
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9. It can then be used to interface with any device that
the NetBSD kernel supports.
https://research.csiro.au/tsblog/using-rump-kernels-to-run-unmodified-netbsd-drivers-on-sel4/
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could be handled by using a model-based congestion avoidance algorithm
like BBR or Vegas, and sending messages out of a prioritized queue,
where "interactive" files like /dev/mouse are prioritized.
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--presumably--now
> defunct address at the Bell Labs (which I, being too much of an amateur
> and with nothing to contribute, didn't do back then).
I am the maintainer of 9p.io. You can contact me with your desired
username so I can can create you a contrib direct
plementations that do this kind of
pipelining, though.
David
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ms to have a unique bluetooth firmware that
crashes bluetoothd on Linux . I haven't been able to figure it out. It also has
this fake "inertial" scrolling which I hated at first but now I quite like it.
David
On Fri, Nov 27, 2020, at 19:33, Kyle Farwell via 9fans wrote:
>
The https://github.com/0intro/vx32 repository was based on the latest Ron
Minnich and Yiyus repository.
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ot.
9legacy includes a patch that considers 32 mask as 0.
http://9legacy.org/9legacy/patch/ip-ipconfig-mask.diff
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9P filesystem:
https://github.com/Harvey-OS/ninep
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That's a very sad news indeed. Jim was a very kind guy.
He did a lot of work on Plan 9.
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I recall a public VMS cluster with the theme and hostnames you mention.
https://deathrow.vistech.net/410.html
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:13 AM Thaddeus Woskowiak
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> Somewhere between 15-20 years ago I remember an early public grid of
> plan 9 machines which amusingly featured hostnames o
Bell Labs (plan9.bell-labs.com).
I've been running 9p.io since 2014 and I don't intend to shut down it.
You can mirror 9p.io if you want. There is already plan9.io, which is a
mirror of 9p.io ran by arisawa.
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> That's exactly what I'm looking for. How might I access that?
http://mirror.9grid.fr/mirror.9grid.fr/atom-2017-09-17.tar.bz2
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