Re: [9fans] Re: IWP9 Submissions Deadline extended to March 3rd

2025-02-18 Thread Edouard Klein
And here is the LaTeX to mimic roff output: %% Sans serif font, virtually no line spacing, small titles, small margins, no page numbers \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault} \linespread{.8} \usepackage{titlesec} \titlelabel{\thetitle. } \titleformat*{\section}{\bf} \titleformat*{\subsection}

Re: [9fans] Re: IWP9 Submissions Deadline extended to March 3rd

2025-02-15 Thread Edouard Klein
In all likelyhood it will be printed in Paris, where since 1791 we use units and standards that make sense. So, A4 :) Le 15 février 2025 19:11:37 GMT+01:00, Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> a écrit : > I suppose we could have custom "Atlantic" paper size: the width of A4 and the > height

Re: [9fans] 9P and Linux experiment

2025-02-14 Thread Edouard Klein
This is cool :) Can you pass xattrs through the ,ctl file ? If you can find the time to write it up in thee pages, that would be a nice WiP for iwp9 ! The deadline has just been extended ! Cheers, Edouard. "Alyssa M via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> writes: > I have a complicated relationship wit

[9fans] IWP9 deadline extension (the last one)

2025-02-14 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear all, https://iwp9.org/#dat The Deadline for IWP9 has been extended for the last time, pinky promise. You can send your papers or WiP to iwp9paper at iwp9.org before the 3rd of March. Looking forward to see all your late submissions :) Edouard. -- 9f

Re: [9fans] 11th IWP9: cryptography / security

2025-01-14 Thread Edouard Klein
pgf must have been a beast ! Looking forward to reading your paper and seeing your talk. writes: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:56:47AM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote: >> the kertex paper sounds very interesting. I would still like to have >> pictex for it :-) > > I will add it. Having added beamer with

[9fans] The next IWP9 will happen in Paris in may 2025

2024-08-28 Thread Edouard Klein
Hi, Despite half the active human members on this list already being aware, as they make up the organizing committee ;), I think it is a good idea to remind everyone that we will have the opportunity too meet in person next may in Paris. http://iwp9.org/ Here is the CfP: Scope This 2025 edition

Re: [9fans] Inferno: starting a process in a stopped state

2024-08-04 Thread Edouard Klein
/stack yields cat: error reading /prog/4/stack: thread must be stopped I'll try again tomorrow but would appreciate any help or hints. Edouard Klein writes: > For the sake of people stumbling on this post a long time from now: > > I solved my immediate problem by running:

Re: [9fans] Inferno: starting a process in a stopped state

2024-08-04 Thread Edouard Klein
rent hurdle is cleared so off I go. Cheers, Edouard. Edouard Klein writes: > Thanks Ron :) > > In DIS assembly, this is written as jmp $0, which can be changed to jmp > $1 when I want to disable the loop and spare myself from decreasing all > PC offsets in the code. > > &

Re: [9fans] Inferno: starting a process in a stopped state

2024-08-03 Thread Edouard Klein
rom $Sys word@ldt+0,1 ext @ldt+4,0xac849033,"print" source "/tmp/quatorze/hello.b" ron minnich writes: > I put a > 1:jump 1 > At the start, when I need to do this and have no other way. > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:28

[9fans] Inferno: starting a process in a stopped state

2024-07-22 Thread Edouard Klein
Hi ! I'm writing dis assembly, and I would like to debug my program right from the entrypoint. I intend to use the /prog filesystem for that, thanks to which one can stop a program by echoing "stop" to dbgctl file. However, what I need to do is stop the program at the very start. I have multipl

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-19 Thread Edouard Klein
I'll add that it takes a special brand of courage to ask "Why has everything got to be a file" in front of a Plan 9 crowd ;) The off-track discussions with Daniel were enlightening. I think his perspective on "NoT" is quite valuable, and has inspired some ideas since I got back. ron minnich wri

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

2024-04-19 Thread Edouard Klein
I love it when I discover that something down on my todo-list has already been done, better than I would have, by someone else :) Very neat tool, I'll be using it soon. Dave Eckhardt writes: >> One thing i did was sometimes to create a skeletron directory >> tree and bind *before* each single di

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
sirjofri writes: > 06.03.2024 11:36:39 Edouard Klein : > ... >> >> I'll try to compile it on Linux and will let you know :) > > Well, it's designed for plan 9 systems, so you're probably out of luck on > linux, except you try it with plan9ports. &g

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
a...@9srv.net writes: > I wonder what percentage of people who reply are going to be running a finger > server they wrote. :-) My tcp79 comes from my implementation, here: > http://txtpunk.com/finger/index.html > > I think we've got enough interoperable unicode-aware implementations we can > s

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> writes: > all this makes sense. thank you. > i might be dense, but what's the problem with inetd exactly? > I have two main gripes with it: - it runs as root, in order to switch users when launching a server, and therefore is a security risk. - it can be configured only

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
a...@9srv.net writes: > I wonder what percentage of people who reply are going to be running a finger > server they wrote. :-) Indeed, it may be why I can't seem to find a good, standard implementation: there are as many implementations as servers. > My tcp79 comes from my implementation, here

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
sirjofri writes: > Hi, > > 05.03.2024 22:38:59 Edouard Klein : > >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for your answer. >> >> >> sirjofri writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I don't use /rc/bin/service anymore, but I use /cfg/ma

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-05 Thread Edouard Klein
Hi, Thank you for your answer. sirjofri writes: > Hello, > > I don't use /rc/bin/service anymore, but I use /cfg/machinename/service > instead. My contents are copies of what's in /rc/bin/service or my own > scripts: I assume that you then bind-mount /cfg/machinename/service to that machine

[9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-02 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, Those of you who run a Plan 9 or Inferno box, could you please share the contents of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc dir ? I'm writing about Plan 9's listen, and I've read the scripts included in the default distribution (e.g. http://git.9front.org/plan9front/plan9front/c5c19dfe4998f

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2024-02-23 Thread Edouard Klein
my paper passes the IWP9 review. Cheers, Edouard. Edouard Klein writes: > For the record here is the lkml post > https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/10/28/155 > Edouard Klein writes: > >> Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. >> >> It seem

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Edouard Klein
I, for one, will attend, barring any incident. I will send my submission in a frenzy panic minutes before the deadline, as one usually does. "Don A. Bailey" writes: > Last I checked (you) were asking for people to sign up. What’s the actual > attendee count at this point? > > >> On Jan 25, 2024

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
For the record here is the lkml post https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/10/28/155 Edouard Klein writes: > Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. > > It seems that Linux does not see 9p as been safe to mount without > privilege. From what I understand,

Re: [9fans] iwp9 paper submission ?

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
Thanks Ori for the update. Please do not hesitate if you feel I can make myself useful somehow. o...@eigenstate.org writes: > Quoth Edouard Klein : >> Dear 9fans, >> >> I tried emailing an abstract to all iwp9*@iwp9.org addresses, but got a >> email delivery failure

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. It seems that Linux does not see 9p as been safe to mount without privilege. From what I understand, only FS with the FS_USERNS_MOUNT flag can be mounted in a user namespace. It seems that v9fs is not one of them: For example, tmpfs is

[9fans] Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-27 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, I'm trying to mount a 9p filesystem under a Linux user "namespace". Apparently this is verboten, because mounting filesystems is dangerous. So only fuse is permitted inside a user namespace. I've tried - using a setuid binary: does not work inside the user namespace, - 9pfuse and 9pf

[9fans] iwp9 paper submission ?

2023-10-27 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, I tried emailing an abstract to all iwp9*@iwp9.org addresses, but got a email delivery failure notification back. Do anybody know where we stand on the workshop organization ? Is there anything I could do to help ? Cheers, Edouard. -- 9fans: