pgf must have been a beast ! Looking forward to reading your paper and
seeing your talk.

<tlaro...@kergis.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:56:47AM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote:
>> the kertex paper sounds very interesting. I would still like to have
>> pictex for it :-)
>
> I will add it. Having added beamer with its dependencies (pgf and the
> like), pictex shouldn't be very difficult...
>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 9:30?AM <tlaro...@kergis.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:48:23PM +0100, Daniel Maslowski via 9fans wrote:
>> > > I'd say, submit a paper and elaborate on this.
>> > >
>> > > There are many approaches to cryptography besides primitives that count 
>> > > on
>> > > problems hard to calculcate, such a steganograpby (hiding messages in
>> > > images) and other forms of covert channels;
>> > > https://github.com/mindcrypt/covertchannels-steganography
>> > >
>> > > Mind that analog computing is a thing:
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer
>> > >
>> > > And so is biological computing:
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_computing
>> > >
>> > > You will find existing approaches of both applied to cryptography.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well, I will very more probably propose a paper for WIP:
>> >
>> > "kerTeX: from typographical system to typography of the system"
>> >
>> > (how all the pieces exist to replace *roff---I don't mean the macro
>> > for man page, but using the TeX engine instead of the roff one---and
>> > to have a complete system from fonts, to layout and rendering because
>> > one can even replace a PostScript interpreter because METAFONT is a
>> > RIP...)
>> >
>> > I'm interested in all the (previous last paragraph) things, around
>> > computability, numerical vs analogical and so on, but I have not
>> > something suffisantly original or even educated to say on the field.
>> > I will prefer listening others.
>> >
>> > But for the ones interested in cryptography, I came across an
>> > historical remark that made me laugh and I can't resist sharing:
>> >
>> > In letters written by Louvois (war minister, so to speak, under
>> > Louis XIV), he once advised the commanding general to instruct the
>> > generals under his own command to code and crypt their mails. And
>> > he added, that it was not because he feared the enemy could surprise
>> > our war plans if they managed to get the mails, but because he
>> > didn't want the enemy to discover how subpar our generals were...
>> >
>> > I like history. You discover that some things remain constant over the
>> > time...
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 22:00 , <tlaro...@kergis.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Reading the presentation of the upcoming 11th International Workshop
>> > > > on Plan 9, on http://iwp9.org, I notice that:
>> > > >
>> > > > "This year, our host having a focus on computer security, papers about
>> > > > cryptography, authentication, fault tolerance, robustness, security
>> > > > applications, error detection and remediation, software reliability,
>> > > > etc. are particularly welcome."
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd like to add something (if people at the CNAM read this too...).
>> > > >
>> > > > When speaking about cryptography / security, one needs to speak also
>> > > > about computability.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Computing" or "calculating" is the way humans track nature, by
>> > > > generally beating around the bushes (indirect, lengthy access). There
>> > > > are equations that we can write, but that we can't solve while soap
>> > > > bubbles, for example, have no difficulty "calculating" (wrong verb)
>> > > > minimal surfaces that we don't know how to calculate.
>> > > >
>> > > > So if organizers or researchers in the field could add a presentation
>> > > > about the limit of numerical, digital, and propose an answer to the
>> > > > following question (perhaps by crossing swords with physicists),
>> > > > I would be very interested:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Cryptography for security relies on how long and how computer
>> > > > intensive is a digital computation to solve some equations. But
>> > > > how to be reassured about the digital security of something, if
>> > > > one can not prove that there are no "soap bubbles" able to analogically
>> > > > solve the equations that computers are unable to solve?"
>> > > >
>> > > > More broadly, the main question is: what are the limits of numerical,
>> > > > digital, computation? What is it obviously good at? What is it open
>> > > > to question good at? Does it rule out experiments?---experiment:
>> > > > "analogical computing" i.e. letting Nature doing the calculus.
>> > > >
>> > > > PS: could someone at the Plan9 Foundation update the copyright on the
>> > > > bottom of the pages? It is an easy way to show that things are still
>> > > > alive ;-)
>> > > > --
>> > > > Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ kergis +dot+ com>
>> > > >              http://www.kergis.com/
>> > > >             http://kertex.kergis.com/
>> > > > Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ kergis +dot+ com>
>> >              http://www.kergis.com/
>> >             http://kertex.kergis.com/
>> > Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

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