Re: [9fans] cpu from one CPU server to another CPU server

2015-11-06 Thread Burton Samograd
Turned out to be 2 issues: 1 i didn't have an auth/authdom line in /lib/ndb/local and 2 I wasn't running keyfs prior to setting up my listeners. Looks like it's working now, thanks for the top on auth/debug. -- Burton FREE 3D EARTH S

[9fans] cpu from one CPU server to another CPU server

2015-11-04 Thread Burton Samograd
Hi, When I log into my first CPU server using drawterm, I try to cpu to my second CPU server and the first one in drawterm just hangs after entering the username/password. After I run the cpu command, all subsequent windows in drawterm that I create with rio are blank like the whole system is

Re: [9fans] rc's shortcomings (new subject line)

2012-08-30 Thread Burton Samograd
>> anyway, a meld of Rc shell and mk? crazy idea. > Inferno (Vitanuova) released a "mash" a ways back, but apparently the sources > were lost. It was mind-bogglingly interesting! In case anyone's interested (like I was): http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/1/ma

Re: [9fans] Multi-dimensional filesystem

2012-08-16 Thread Burton Samograd
't know the right context. I thought this problem was solved in plan9: Lexical File Names in Plan 9, or, Getting Dot-Dot Right - Rob Pike A vexing old problem solved: how to make pwd get the right answer in the face of multiply-bound directories. http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/lexnames.h

Re: [9fans] Multi-dimensional filesystem

2012-08-03 Thread Burton Samograd
lan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] Multi-dimensional filesystem On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 05:08:52PM -0400, Burton Samograd wrote: > > This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is > strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, u

Re: [9fans] Multi-dimensional filesystem

2012-08-03 Thread Burton Samograd
ttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/spe.4380201304/abstract I seem to remember it being available through ast: http://www2.research.att.com/sw/download/ -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the inten

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread Burton Samograd
> so edit/win, edit/edit, edit/dir might all be little programs that do part of > what acme currently does. Sounds a bit like emacs :) -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipien

[9fans] exec crashing

2012-05-24 Thread Burton Samograd
I'm trying to add a restart feature to my modified rio by calling exec on a saved argv[0] and copy of argv that has been null terminated, but it crashes every time. Is there something about exec on plan9 that I should be aware of that's different than unix? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
Another noob question; how do you start the fs console on cwfs64x? I tried 'con /srv/cwfs.cmd' but get nothing back. The docs I can find all relate to fossil and which doesn't look to work the same. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
;t back out, so I'm glad to know I didn't completely waste my money :) -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
For now, the following works for me: mntgen / bind -c $home/tmp /tmp I just added it to my lib/profile and everything is good now. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
anything there until I create it. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
I guess i'm looking for 'mount -o remount,rw /' or something equivalent if that exists. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
x27;s completely missing, i get the error with 'mounted directory forbids creation.' The bind command fails because /tmp is not there; I made a mistake with my original question. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
I have no idea how, but my /tmp disappeared, making editing files with sam impossible. I tried to bind -c $home/tmp /tmp but i get the complaint that the mounted directory doesn't allow creation. Any advice? -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
s of files? Thanks. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] 9front: Support for encrypted partitions (in development, needs documentation)

2012-05-18 Thread Burton Samograd
The features list of 9front has the subject line. How in development is it, and could anybody give a documentation/HOWTO on getting it working (if it does)? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-18 Thread Burton Samograd
source and it worked as advertised (as in clicking on Google search result links now work). -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authoris

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
> I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. > Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. Seconded. Google searching is a pain using abaco. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
The defaults in my 9front installation were other, fscache and fsworm. Does fscache == main and fsworm == dump? -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of cinap_len...@gmx.de Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:37 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Sub

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
> the worm is not a wayback machine, it is the main storage! Maybe I was getting confused with venti (as in fossil+venti)? I guess I thought that since cwfs was standalone that it incorporated both systems into one. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
l.  in your case 10G is not all you've got available for 'root', just > what you've got available for new writes between dumps to worm. Ok, I'll give it a read; I still have quite a bit to learn. Thanks for the brief explanation. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
> installing 9atom with the 9front boot loader doesn't work.  the >> prompt i a characteristic of it. Unless there was residuals from the previous install that weren't overwritten then I was doing a clean install of both the labs and 9atom distro. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
People are saying that the Wavelan PC24E-H-FC is working with plan9. I found a Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI. Any idea if this will work? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
y movies on my p9 system so I think it will take me a while to fill up the 10G allocated. Could anybody explain the csfw64x default partitioning scheme on 9front a bit for me? Thanks. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-16 Thread Burton Samograd
Just curious, but what exactly to the mp[0..24] lines do? And are they only supported by the 9front kernel? -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:24 AM To: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-16 Thread Burton Samograd
shot too; lots of new stuff to try. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-16 Thread Burton Samograd
ng other things. To be honest, I'd rather be using the Bell Labs iso so if anybody could give a suggestion on how to get that working I'd appreciate it. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-15 Thread Burton Samograd
before then. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-15 Thread Burton Samograd
> seems pretty clear that your mp table is junk. too bad. Ironic given I bought an Intel MB to keep from having problems like this. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient.

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-15 Thread Burton Samograd
My G/F was asking how many people use Plan9. Does anybody have an estimate of the size of the community? I said maybe 20 or 30 to her, but I'm sure that's low. -- Burton Samograd (+1 to community size estimation :)

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-15 Thread Burton Samograd
I was looking at them yesterday; are there particular models that work well/at all? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-15 Thread Burton Samograd
systems including ahci. Also, the keyboard again didn't work, which is a PS2 keyboard/mouse combo. I couldn't get past the fs prompt due to this. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-14 Thread Burton Samograd
I'm currently stuck with gmail and you can't login to google using readweb. Is there any way to read gmail from plan9? Over SSL imap maybe? I searched for imapfs but came up with nothing. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-14 Thread Burton Samograd
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Burton Samograd wrote: >>> So no MP for this machine for now. Here's some relevant output of linux dmesg regarding MP on my machine: [0.00] found SMP MP-table at [880fe200] fe200 [0.00] initial memory mapped : 0 - 2000

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-14 Thread Burton Samograd
't really capture the full output as a lot of it scrolls off the screen but I can write a more detailed description if anybody is interested. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-14 Thread Burton Samograd
e I screwed up the secstore part of the boot sequence by giving a non-existant (yet) username so I'll have to figure out how to invalidate the nvram again or reinstall. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-13 Thread Burton Samograd
Attached is the output of lspci. I'll see if I can get it to fully boot to get the output of the other command. -- Burton On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun May 13 21:20:40 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote: >> Toggling the bootable flag on the plan9 partiti

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-13 Thread Burton Samograd
ith my disks, or at least finding the boot partition/floppy on the cd. 9front would boot fine as a live/install cd so I thought I was in the clear but unfortunately not. -- Burton Samograd On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Burton Samograd wrote: >> 9bootfat does its search by walking all part

Re: [9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-13 Thread Burton Samograd
linux partition is marked bootable but I'm not sure if it needs to be since grub is installed in the MBR. Any thoughts? I might just try to set my plan9 partition bootable and see what happens; I'm sure i can fix things if I can't boot later. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] 'no fat' - boot failure

2012-05-13 Thread Burton Samograd
t16 set root=(hd0,msdos2) chainloader +1 } I got the (hd0,msdos2) from using the grub command line completion. I've never seen that format before so I'm thinking it's new, but then again I haven't played with grub for a while. -- Burton Samograd

[9fans] Shiva/Guru Plug Support

2012-05-13 Thread Burton Samograd
mmary of what has been accomplished. Also, would this port work on the GuruPlug Server (http://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=125849399830547&w=2)? I looks like it has almost the exact same hardware as the Shiva. I'd just like to know the port status before I purchase one for use with Plan

[9fans] The Alt/Meta Key

2012-05-11 Thread Burton Samograd
ze Alt key combinations? I'm thinking this is part of the kernel keyboard driver, am I correct? I'm trying to modify rio to handle for Alt-F (forward-word) and Alt-B (backward-word). -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] IL depreciated

2012-05-11 Thread Burton Samograd
Oops, that wasn't from eric... > i don't use il over the internet since it's not encrypted. > tls over the internet makes much more sense to me. Is there no encryption support for 9P? -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and att

Re: [9fans] IL depreciated

2012-05-11 Thread Burton Samograd
> i don't use il over the internet since it's not encrypted. > tls over the internet makes much more sense to me. Is there no encryption support for 9P? - erik This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. An

Re: [9fans] IL depreciated

2012-05-11 Thread Burton Samograd
> I still use IL on my local network, but that's mostly for fun. Does it offer the advantages claimed over TCP? Do you think it is even possible to run it over the internet anymore given the amount of filtering and such that is going on at the ISP level now? -- Burton This e-mail, including

[9fans] IL depreciated

2012-05-11 Thread Burton Samograd
using it for either local network or internet usage. And, given It's depreciation status, is it still available for use if one does want to use it? -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confide

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
> I have an X61T... Do you mean an X61s? I see no reference to the X61T on the ThinkWiki. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subj

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
I remember reading a while back that plan9 didn't support more than 1.7G of memory. Is this still the case? -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: R

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the 800MiP? -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Burton Samograd Sent: Wednesday, May 09

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and using it in an X60? I like the form factor of the X60 plus the better specs, I'm just not sure if it also uses the same Mini PCI slot of the T23. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-09 Thread Burton Samograd
Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW compatibility, etc. One every system I've tried there's always been something that has gone wrong, so I'm hoping that the wisdom of this list will dir