Re: [9fans] mk clean on /sys/src/cmd/git

2025-07-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
It's worth reiterating that 9fans' policy is that this is not an appropriate place to post "AI" or LLM-generated content. We've banned the account. It was a moderation miss letting this through. We apologize for the error. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https:

Re: [9fans] Floating point… error? Bug?

2025-07-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
Thanks, that seems to be it; Ori got me pointed in the same direction in #plan9 on irc. > On Jul 16, 2025, at 19:45, Dan Cross wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 5:57 PM Anthony Sorace wrote: >> I have a floating point issue I don’t understand. I have a stripped-down >

[9fans] Floating point… error? Bug?

2025-07-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
I have a floating point issue I don’t understand. I have a stripped-down reproducer here: http://a.9srv.net/tmp/fptest.c Tested on 8c on 9legacy and 6c on geoff’s 9k, “step” prints different things for the intermediate value and the set variable, both of which are nonsense. Am I doing somethin

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Future of OSL in jeopardy

2025-05-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
I’m happy to report that OSUOSL has secured funding for at least the next year. https://osuosl.org/blog/osl-future-update/ They’re working on plans for longer-term funding so that this isn’t a recurring issue, but nothing new there. Regardless, OSUOSL remains an amazing resource that supports h

Re: [9fans] draw: bezsplinepts - howto?

2025-04-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
points from two b-splines and uses them as a polygon to fill the shape out. http://a.9srv.net/src/splinetest.c > On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:11, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:08, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> >> …but evenings are a just iterating… >

[9fans] draw: bezsplinepts - howto?

2025-04-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
Anyone have a working example of using draw’s bezsplinepts? I assume I’m doing something wrong here, but evenings are a just iterating over the pointer it sets and trying to print the points with %P is giving me nonsense values. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

[9fans] Re: draw: bezsplinepts - howto?

2025-04-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:08, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > …but evenings are a just iterating… …but even just iterating… Anyway, it’s in the middle of a slightly messy program at the moment; i’m writing a simpler test. But still, an example would be appre

Re: [9fans] Etiquette question

2025-04-05 Thread Anthony Sorace
Just for myself: as long as it's topical, I have never considered this an etiquette violation. I've done it several times and never gotten any pushback. > On Mar 17, 2025, at 12:28, Matt Wilbur wrote: > > If someone has posted here to the mailing list, and I’d like to contact them > directly (

Re: [9fans] 9phone

2025-03-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
Brian Stuart did a port of Inferno to the Sun SPOT hardware, which has some overlap with the devices in question: http://iwp9.org/8e/sunspot.pdf I did an accelerometer on a pi hat a while ago. I think I ended up with the same interface you were describing, but without the normalization, which s

Re: [9fans] slides ...

2025-03-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
I haven't seen them used since I worked at the Labs, but Plan 9 ships with tmac.v. We don't have a man page for it, but on a cursory inspection it seems to be roughly what's descried here: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=t-troff-command#troff__mvmacro > On Mar 18, 2025, at 0

[9fans] sacfs vs. paqfs

2025-03-13 Thread Anthony Sorace
I think I knew this back when I had a bitsy, but my memory of this has faded: what is the difference between sacfs and paqfs? The later seems more general, and I have some vague memory of sacfs being intended for... some particular type of flash memory? But I don't see where it'd matter other th

Re: [9fans] IWP9 trip

2025-03-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Mar 10, 2025, at 05:50, Cody Holliday wrote: > > I had the same question but sent it to the iwp9 address and got a “virtual > mailbox not found”. Which address did you try when you got this? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/gro

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Feb 23, 2025, at 11:43, Shawn Rutledge wrote: > > Surely the pinephone must be inevitable at some point? Someone’s actively working on a 9front port: https://github.com/driusan/9front-A64 He was making good progress but seems to have broken his power button which might slow things down. I

Re: [9fans] WORM and chalkboard

2025-02-22 Thread Anthony Sorace
I think you’re misunderstanding that 10 second wake up process. Dumps are not taken every 10 seconds, but once a day. See this part of the paper, slightly above: The Cwrite and Cdirty blocks are created and never removed. Unless something is done to convert these blocks, the c-device will gradu

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-20 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Feb 20, 2025, at 16:17, Dworkin Muller wrote: > > Plan 9's mostly single-character names, with no > apparent connection to what they correspond to, have completely > flummoxed me more times than I care to count. A listing with a sentence or two per device and pointers to the corresponding ma

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 minimum hardware -- 68K or (cough) 6809?

2025-01-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
Plan 9 has run on 68K systems, at least an earlier edition of the system. Check out the 2nd edition paper about the various ports:http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/2nd_edition/portThere was a compiler but no kernel for the 68000; the existing kernel assumed 68020 or better.I know I have run 3rd edition o

Re: [9fans] hosting in general

2025-01-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
We have a long-standing relationship with OSUOSL, who are excellent, since shortly after we launched. They provide the US hosting for downloads of the historical ISOs and we also have an internal “dev“ system on their open stack infrastructure. We are very grateful to them for their continued su

Re: [9fans] NIX/regen

2025-01-14 Thread Anthony Sorace
Do you (or anyone else) have a recipe for getting qemu to do a real netboot (as opposed to using a tiny partition to store a 9fat and netbooting from that)? I have tried and haven’t been able to work it out. > On Jan 14, 2025, at 15:54, Ori Bernstein wrote: > > Netbooting is comfortable for

Re: [9fans] NIX experience

2024-12-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
I've thought for a while now that NIX might still have interesting things to say in the middle of the space, even if the HPC origins didn't work out. Probably most of us are walking around with systems with asymmetrical cores ("performance" vs. "efficiency") in our pockets right now; it seems li

Re: [9fans] examples for setting up secstore for a laptop

2024-12-20 Thread Anthony Sorace
secstore (and secstored) is the conventional answer there. It typically runs on your auth server, and factotum will connect to it when it starts, to load your keys. Things are encrypted on disk, and you only need the secstore password.The ‘feedkeys’ script demonstrates how to do it manually, after

[9fans] tr2post & Bopen historical mystery

2024-12-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
Here's a pair of small historical mysteries that came up on IRC. Bopen allows you to open a file OREAD or OWRITE; you cannot open it read+write. That's been true at least since 2nd Edition. But /sys/src/cmd/postscript/tr2post/picutres.c contains a pair of invocations of "Bopen(pictmpname, ORDWR

[9fans] Venti backups from unix

2024-12-14 Thread Anthony Sorace
I use vac in Plan 9 Ports to back up a bunch of Unix hosts to a Plan 9 venti. I've talked about this several times, including on here at least once or twice, but someone asked me again a day or two ago and I realized I didn't have anything convenient to point to. So I did a lab report:

[9fans] 9fans now moderated

2024-12-14 Thread Anthony Sorace
Hello, 9fans. Russ Cox has graciously transferred management of the list to the Plan 9 Foundation. As part of that change, this list will now be moderated. Information about the group, including our moderation guidelines, can be found at https://p9f.org/9fans.html. Much thanks to Russ for mana

Re: [9fans] htmlroff -ms footnotes

2024-11-26 Thread Anthony Sorace
[Finally got back to this, after forgetting about it in my drafts for a year...] > On Oct 6, 2023, at 19:06, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote: > > okay, yeah, .SH calls .RT calls .BG calls .rn FJ FS Yes, the .rn is the problem; specifically, the interaction between ms and mhtml. mhtml redefines

Re: [9fans] Colors in plot(1)

2024-11-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
Yes, I see graph working, too, but afaik graph doesn’t have a way to do fill colors. > On Nov 10, 2024, at 15:21, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote: > > I have only ever used the pen colour option to graph. > ie. at least this does something, so it can't be all broke > > echo '1 2 3 4 5' | gra

[9fans] Colors in plot(1)

2024-11-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
Am I misunderstanding something, or do these just not work? For example, I'd expect this: echo '1 2 3 4 5' | graph -a | plot -pr -cb -fg to give me a red diagonal line in front of a blue background, filled in with green underneath. On both Plan 9 and p9p, I instead get the same as if I'

[9fans] Summer of Code 2024

2024-01-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
We're applying again! This is Google's 20th Summer of Code. In brief: • Applications close Tuesday • We need mentors • We *especially* need project ideas from people who can mentor them The application window closes on Tuesday, and I'll be finishing up our formal applicat

[9fans] Plan 9 Foundation is a 501(c)(3)

2023-12-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
Since announcing the Plan 9 Foundation, folks have asked how they can support our work. We’ve had that “on hold” until we had a bunch of organizational things sorted. We’re very pleased to say that the last big one of those is now completed: the Plan 9 Foundation has been recognized as a 501(c)(3)

Re: [9fans] Error when trying to install contrib/install

2023-02-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Feb 22, 2023, at 00:02, quiekaizam via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > Indeed, my test(1) doesn't seem to support such syntax. Is this a version > problem? I believe so, yes. It looks like 9front has made some significant changes to (or removed? I didn’t dig in) test’s handling of “implie

Re: [9fans] Power mac support

2022-07-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Many years ago, David Eckhardt’s group at CMU had it running, although when I played with it the hardware support was minimal. They took an interesting approach to using the openfirmware for driver mediation, IIRC. I don’t believe it was ever publicly released, although they were being pretty li

[9fans] Plan 9 not selected for GSoC

2022-03-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
Folks: Unfortunately, we were not selected for GSoC this year. They've got 203 other orgs participating and you might check out the list: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2022/organizations There's lots of things in there that are interesting on their own, of course,

[9fans] Plan 9 applying to GSoC

2022-02-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
Plan 9 is applying to GSoC again! The application period closes on Monday, and our formal application is in. As is the case every year, the most critical part of an application is the org's ideas page[1]. We'd love additional fleshed-out contributions for that. Since we had a little confusion o

Re: [9fans] Connecting to the wiki from linux with plan9port

2021-11-13 Thread Anthony Sorace
In addition to Fazlul’s note, I continue to find this useful, even though it’s read-only: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T033f756b8ec05b5d-M92ccac8a85a9504f3ae8cab7/command-line-read-only-wiki-client I think a write mode modeled after what ipso does shouldn’t be too hard, but I’ve not

Re: [9fans] astro: meeteeor shouwer?

2021-07-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Jul 28, 2021, at 17:20, Rob Pike wrote: > > If you mean, why is it spelled like that? Yes, exactly. Thinking about this on the drive home, I remembered “values of beeta“ and remembered these are listed in betatab, and figured it was something like that. Thank you for the response.

[9fans] astro: meeteeor shouwer?

2021-07-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Speaking of astro, anyone know the story behind this? :; astro | sed 2q 2021 7 28 Pisces australid meeteeor shouwer :; agrep meeteeor /sys/src/cmd/astro/*.c /sys/src/cmd/astro/search.c:61: event("%s meeteeor shouwer", --

Re: [9fans] Four numbers in /lib/sky/here

2021-07-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
There are a few other things which also use that file (e.g. latcmp, the 2e road(1), gmap (who did that?) my darksky program). I’m wondering if I’m missing something that uses that fourth number. I certainly can’t rule out user error. > On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:20, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail

[9fans] Four numbers in /lib/sky/here

2021-07-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
I went to update my /lib/sky/here after a server move and realized it has four numbers in it. I know I added it at some point, but I can’t remember what that fourth number is doing in there. The pre-move version: :; cat /lib/sky/here 41.499 81.558 250 290 Anyone have any idea what might use tha

[9fans] #plan9 on libera.chat

2021-06-15 Thread Anthony Sorace
Similarly: with Freenode having gone in a bad direction in the last month or so, #plan9, #plan9-gsoc, and #inferno have moved to libera.chat (the network started by most of the former Freenode staff before things went south). There’s a few dozen of us hanging out right now; stop by and say hi. I

[9fans] Google Summer of Code projects announced

2021-05-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
The students for Summer of Code 2021 have been announced. Plan 9 was awarded three slots and after evaluating the various proposals we will be working with the following great students over the summer: • Ethan Long will be working on nIME, an input method for Japanese text • Cameron Connell will

[9fans] GSoC: less than 24 hours for student proposals!

2021-04-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
Students! We want to work with you! If you’ve been holding back or on the fence, get your proposals in now! Don’t wait until the last minute; no extensions for computer problems if you can’t get it submitted. Your proposal needs to be submitted to https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ by 11:00am

Re: [9fans] searching advice

2021-04-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
I can’t help too much with ext, but: > mount -c /srv/ext2 /n/hostfs /dev/sdD0 That part’s almost certainly wrong. /dev/sdD0 will be a directory; ext2srv will expect you to give the file containing the actual file system. This is probably /dev/sdD0/. --

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Summer of Code

2021-03-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
Hi there. Our wiki got confused. We're still looking into what caused it to get confused in the first place, but I've given it a prod and things seem to be working properly again now. Thank you for the report. And you are definitely not late! The student application period only opened on Monday

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Mar 23, 2021, at 16:55 , Dave MacFarlane wrote: > > Wow, fantastic news! Congratulations! Thanks! I'm pretty excited > Is there any way we can donate to the foundation (time or money) to keep > things moving along? Not at this time. We've still got a bit more to do with various bits of pa

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
Oh, what David said. :-) > On Mar 23, 2021, at 13:15 , Anthony Sorace wrote: > > No. This was correct this morning. I'm looking into it; thanks for pointing > it out. > >> On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:13 , Kurt H Maier wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
No. This was correct this morning. I'm looking into it; thanks for pointing it out. > On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:13 , Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 06:06:49AM -0700, a...@9srv.net wrote: >> >> The historical releases are available right now at: >>https://p9f.org/dl/ > >

[9fans] Command line read-only wiki client

2021-03-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
I've been using the wiki a lot more recently. Inspired by the wiki in tilde.club, I made a read-only command line client. It's simple: 'wiki -l' lists the pages, 'wiki foo' prints article foo, 'wiki foo bar' looks for an article called "foo_bar", then "foo-bar", then separate "foo" and "bar" ar

[9fans] Plan 9 in Summer of Code

2021-03-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
Google has just posted the list of accepted organizations for Summer of Code 2021, and I'm happy to report that Plan 9 has been accepted! The first wave of eager student applicants is already checking out the ideas pages for the orgs on the list, and that'll keep up for the next few weeks. If

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
The compiler suite has had a few compilers in it which were used for things other than kernel ports. I can’t say about the 68000 specifically, but that would be my guess. The i960 and DSP3210 compilers are other examples. > On Feb 23, 2021, at 21:18, Steve Simon wrote: > > I don't believe a

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
Wes Kussmaul wrote: > >  >> On 2/10/21 12:17 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: >>> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f.org/. >>> >> "That effort stalled, mainly d

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
We’re starting off with the prior years’ GSoC money. We haven’t yet pursued other funding avenues since there’s still a bunch of legal/tax things we have to finish first. > On Feb 10, 2021, at 10:24, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > you got other money sources lined up apart from gsoc? > >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
evaporated, we didn’t push in with the formation. The IRS has figured it out since 2009. :-) > On Feb 10, 2021, at 09:19, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:40:18PM -0800, Anthony Sorace wrote: >> >> More information can be found on our web site, http://p9f

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
> Thierry asked: > > One suggestion: add a link for donations. I, for one, when I can't > provide code to software I'm interested in (even remotely), try at > least to give some money. > Don asked: > > How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? Glad to hear there's interest

[9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
we're really excited for what the year's going to bring. 2021 is going to be great for Glenda. Thank you for your time, Geoff Collier David du Colombier Charles Forsyth Paul Lalonde Ron Minnich Jeff Sickel Anthony Sorace Skip Tavakkolian --

[9fans] Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021

2021-01-29 Thread Anthony Sorace
Hello! After a few years away, we’ll be applying to Google’s Summer of Code program again this year. Summer of Code is a program Google runs where they fund students to work with mentors from open source organizations. The primary purpose of the program is to help students work with real-world

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
> Richard asked: > The pi4 is very sensitive to power supply voltage. Are you using > an "official" pi4 power supply (5.2v)? Yes; same power supply on the 4GB and 1GB models. That is, same exact unit, on the same outlet. I had all sorts of problems with my first several Pi and know better than to

Re: [9fans] iOS drawterm

2020-03-26 Thread Anthony Sorace
Mar 25, 2020 at 4:20 AM Kim Lassila wrote: >> >> >>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: >>> >>> With iOS getting first-class mouse pointer support, I’m looking at the iOS >>> drawterm port again. Has anyone touched this since

Re: [9fans] iOS drawterm

2020-03-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
platform for playing around with exposing other capabilities that the device has to plan 9. I played around with this a little bit with the original port. VNC buys us none of this. > On Mar 25, 2020, at 04:21, Kim Lassila wrote: > >  > >> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Ant

[9fans] iOS drawterm

2020-03-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
With iOS getting first-class mouse pointer support, I’m looking at the iOS drawterm port again. Has anyone touched this since the old GSoC project bit rotted out? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T69dec3540d033863-Mf82d1a

Re: [9fans] Did 9srv.net go offline?

2020-03-05 Thread Anthony Sorace
9srv was down for several days due to a hardware failure. It's mostly back now, although it's got significant stability issues. I should also note that until I've resolved those, I've stopped adding new accounts. I'll let folks know when all is better. Anthony > On Feb 24, 2020, at 7:37 , Serg

Re: [9fans] Object Icon, drawterm, riox

2020-01-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
I get why someone might want those rio changes, even if they're not for me (although some I'm curious about). But can anyone help me understand why what they've done to drawterm is desirable? I can't say that resizing the window to change the scale factor has ever seemed like something I'd want.

Re: [9fans] moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
Archived-At is from RFC 5064. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5064 The weird "=?UTF-8?B?" is an "Encoded Word", per RFC 2047. Email headers are defined to be 7-bit ASCII (yes, still); 2047 provides a way to encode other characters in email headers. Mind you, it looks like all the actual

[9fans] Anything like 2e's road(7)?

2019-10-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
This isn't really a Plan 9 question at this point, but since we've been talking about 2e a bit: 2e included a program road(7), which allowed you to explore a US map database. It has a neat property where you can highlight individual features via regexp match. You could have a map containing onl

[9fans] USB device mode?

2019-07-10 Thread Anthony Sorace
Has anyone done any work (successful or otherwise) towards getting Plan 9 to drive USB in device mode? If so, can you share any code or comments? This would be particularly useful on the Raspberry Pi Zero’s OTG interface, as a serial or HID device, but experiences with other versions of this wou

[9fans] Backblaze B2

2019-03-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
I'm considering adapting the S3 Venti to use Backblaze's B2. Has anyone done anything interesting (i.e. Plan 9 related) with B2?

Re: [9fans] DKIM with upas

2018-01-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
Where you've put it seems like the right place to me. Acme Mail is doing the wrong thing here. It should respect $upasname for this purpose, like marshal does. I think this is just a change to mesgsend in /acme/mail/src/reply.c; unlike marshal, don't overwrite user, but just wrap "fprint(ofd, "Fro

[9fans] QIC-80

2017-01-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
This is a bit of personal archeology, but has anyone read QIC-80 tapes on Plan9? If so, using what hardware?

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
I'm not sure there's a single "canonical" answer, but many installations have run the auth server off its own file system, as James originally described. It's been several years now so my memory could be fuzzy, but I believe this is what they did at the main Bell Labs installation. > On Nov 15

Re: [9fans] acme tag bars stacking

2016-10-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
I’ve often wanted the same sorting change. I do, however, find yiyus’ rationale compelling. I’d be interested in playing with it, if you try it out. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:16 , Mathieu Lonjaret > wrote: > > yeah, good points. > > On 29 October 2016 at 00:47, yy wrote: >> On 28 October 2016

[9fans] Pi Hats and i2c

2016-03-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
Anyone have any example code using the i2c interface on the pi I can look at? I'm playing around with several of these, and am not getting the results I expect (data getting out, but the hats aren't behaving like they're getting the same bits I think I'm sending). More generally, anyone got any

Re: [9fans] utf-8

2016-02-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
It isn't. MIDI variable-length quantities don't include an indication of length in a header, and the last byte in any multi-byte sequence is a valid single-byte value. It is more bit efficient than UTF-8, but I believe it lacks other properties around synchronization, possibly others. I'm less

Re: [9fans] smtpd in modern times.

2016-02-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
What leads you to believe this is so? I run smtpd from Erik's upas, and haven't noticed any problems related to this. > On Feb 7, 2016, at 18:26, Steve Simon wrote: > > I have been running my a smtp server on plan9 for about > 10 years but I beleive I am having more and more incomming > mail b

[9fans] Wireless on the Pi?

2016-01-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
Anyone got anything? USB dongle we can drive, or an ethernet bridge folks have had good results with? WiFi with WPA2 is ideal, but the only hard requirement for my use case is power: it needs to either draw directly or be able to draw power via USB.

Re: [9fans] Pi updates

2015-12-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Wow, that’s amazing timing. I was reading about SPI on the Pi, considering getting one of those TFT displays, closed the window to head to bed, and there’s your message. This is super useful, thanks. And yes, I’d be interested in seeing your slides, although you’ve already given me enough to keep m

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Brantley wrote: > One could argue that the Plan 9 C compiler lacks the modern optimizations > that the other compilers have. This would be true. But I would argue that > almost all of those optimizations are either not needed... Note the "almost all" in there. It's important not to get dogmatic

Re: [9fans] Two faces(1) derivatives

2015-11-21 Thread Anthony Sorace
I thought about doing something like gravatar, but it’s not well-used among my social or professional circles, either, outside of a few forums. Still, I’d be interested in seeing what you did. I think it’d be neat to have ‘gravatarfs’, which you could mount (or not) under /lib/face, and have it con

Re: [9fans] Two faces(1) derivatives

2015-11-21 Thread Anthony Sorace
Two things came up while working on this: 1) Does anyone know what Infolines, in main.c, is/was used for? 2) Figuring out how far down to move a line of text seems more manual than it should be, and I don’t understand how to do it in a way that’s good for most fonts. Am I missing something?

Re: [9fans] Web Gardens

2015-10-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
I had never heard this term before, but this is perfect. Well done. > I thought a web garden was a hobbyist version of a server farm.

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
> erik quanstrom wrote: > > when i need to run Linux programs, i run linux. Yeah, but then you’ve got linux. Now you’ve got two problems (hah! if only…). > what is the benefit of running firefox on a p9 like system, > rather than on linux? The theory, anyway, is that you could then not have a

Re: [9fans] plumber support for python lookup

2015-07-21 Thread Anthony Sorace
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 11:03 , Anthony Sorace wrote: > > I'm in the middle of a medium-size python project. It would be > really helpful if the plumber could do things like look up things > in python's dot notation. Anyone have plumbing rules or helper > functions the

Re: [9fans] replace p9sk1 with something better(9front)

2015-07-02 Thread Anthony Sorace
Personally, I think two separate things are called for. 1) A straight-forward update to use AES 2) Some public key system. The p9sk1 *model* is great, and it'd be a real shame to drop it. Doing the upgrade and teaching should be easy, although there's tedious work in telling all the things to s

Re: [9fans] Darksky

2015-06-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
> I'm very pleased to see my library being of use ☺. I wrote it for a > flickr 9p server, which has probably bitrotted a bit by now. And I’m very happy to have it; thanks! I haven’t tried rebuilding flickrfs recently, but it still gets at my flickr account (just tried it). I had forgotten that

[9fans] p9p's stats

2015-06-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
Two things on stats: 1) The load figures on OS X seem to be mostly useless: they indicate the machine is pretty much constantly pegged, when it’s really mostly idle (as per ’top’ and Activity Monitor). Are other people seeing this, as well? (Results on FreeBSD and Linux match my expectations.)

[9fans] Darksky

2015-06-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
I love that Weather Underground is still offering a telnet interface, but I wanted a bit more control over what I get back. I was also trying to get familiar with the nice JSON library bedo did[1], so I wrote up a Darksky client. Get an API key of your own[2] and stick it in $home/lib/darksky, and

[9fans] USB-to-parallel?

2015-06-21 Thread Anthony Sorace
Anyone done usb-to-parallel under Plan 9? If so, model and/or code?

Re: [9fans] Trying to override 'cd' command

2015-06-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
It works: : root; fn cd {builtin cd $* ; prompt=(': '`{pwd}^'; ' '')} : root; cd : /usr/a; cd /tmp : /tmp; If you’re still having trouble, paste a transcript like that, so we can see what’s going on. Note also that spaces in file names will screw up the

Re: [9fans] fossil+venti performance question

2015-05-04 Thread Anthony Sorace
The reason, in general: In a fossil+venti setup, fossil runs (basically) as a cache for venti. If your access just hits fossil, it’ll be quick; if not, you hit the (significantly slower) venti. I bet if you re-run the same test twice in a row, you’re going to see dramatically improved performance.

[9fans] Why didn't anyone tell me about the new slogan?

2015-04-01 Thread Anthony Sorace
http://t.co/qyvHkuP2m8 Sounds a bit pollyanna to me, but who am I to judge?

[9fans] Portable NAT-busting reverse-proxy

2015-03-03 Thread Anthony Sorace
I have a web service that runs localhost-only on my laptop which I'd sometimes like to make available on the public internet. The service listens on port 8000. The laptop moves around periodically, is usually behind a NAT, and is sometimes offline. Here's how I do it. 1) In Inferno on my laptop

[9fans] Plan 9 not selected for GSoC

2015-03-02 Thread Anthony Sorace
Unfortunately, we were not selected as one of the mentoring orgs in GSoC this year. I'm going to try and make the meeting for rejected orgs on Friday (I'll be traveling, but should be able to make it) and will hopefully get some insight into why then. I'll report back any interesting findings. If

Re: [9fans] announce radio HLS and drawterm question

2015-02-26 Thread Anthony Sorace
9p access to resources on "foreign" systems has always been a good target for GSoC, whether that be in drawterm, Inferno, or via other means. We've had several projects in this category over the years, and would certainly love to see more. If you're going to troll, I'd appreciate it if you'd av

[9fans] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
(Resending (with tweaks) to get around moderation.) Things are underway for this summer. The org application period is open, closing tomorrow, and ours is in, with a few tweaks pending. A few things to note, the first one could use lots of help: • As always, the most important part of the appli

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-01-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
> On Jan 30, 2015, at 10:59 , Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > It surely would not be conformant to Plan 9 systems, but to the protocol? No. Joel has it right. Writing a server which allows / in names would mean that the "/" you're slipping into a name wouldn't always be a directory indicator or name

Re: [9fans] OLPC machines

2015-01-06 Thread Anthony Sorace
There is at least somewhat more current work than that. Tim Newsham was working on a port in 2010. It booted, but was limited (iirc, no networking and some graphics problems). The files from that on my system are dated 2012, but I think that's just from me being careless when I moved something

Re: [9fans] More kbmap information

2014-12-22 Thread Anthony Sorace
I don't think kbmap is going to give you what you want here. It's a really easy way to set the non-modifier keys, but which modifier keys do what is built into the underlying code. I don't think what you're after would be too challenging, though; start by taking a look at /sys/src/9/pc/kbd.c (as

[9fans] 9p on iOS?

2014-12-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
I have a project for which I need 9p on iOS. Anyone have an Objective C module that'll do that, or experience fitting in a C library? I'm looking for something much more self-contained than what's found in the drawterm port.

Re: [9fans] FUSE on Plan9

2014-12-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
What might be more interesting is a 9pfuse, analogous to davfuse (thus the opposite of the thing in p9p now), running on Unix. That way you have a high probability of working with the existing fuse plugs, without having to do any porting work there, and plan 9 systems can still get at them. It's

Re: [9fans] FUSE on Plan9

2014-12-12 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Dec 12, 2014, at 05:49, Jens Staal wrote: > > Would this theoretically work? The advantage of FUSE is access to a number of > popular file systems (most notably ext4, NTFS, ZFS) and also many special- > purpose file systems. It's been a few years since I really looked at fuse, so I could be

Re: [9fans] advice? fossil+venti (p9), vbackup+venti (p9p) vs. some other means of backup

2014-12-11 Thread Anthony Sorace
> Does anybody rely on a backup scheme using, say, > vbackup+venti on linux? Does it work well, or would > you recomment other means of doing a backup? Not precisely what you're asking, but likely close enough experience to be useful: When last I was responsible for a bunch of unix boxes, I was

Re: [9fans] golang on 9atom

2014-12-03 Thread Anthony Sorace
The error is what it says: the file name (rather than the full path) is too long for your file server. It sounds like you're running kfs, which is the oldest and most restricted of our general purpose options. Long-term, I suggest migrating, although if you're on a single-system setup and alread

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:59 , Bakul Shah wrote: > As long as you run IP, you pay the other costs for any protocol. But there's plenty of cases where you don't need even that. See AOE, or nonet from very early Plan 9. I'd like that back. > If you use TCP you benefit from its near universality, dea

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