[9fans] What's a mounted channel?

2021-05-29 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
The comments on the #define lines and a commented out section of stat(2) say (DM|QT)MOUNT indicates a mounted channel, what is this? Also, why does exportfs fork and the kernel not send write on closed pipe notes for mounted channels? -- Mailfence.comPrivate and secure email -

[9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective

2021-05-24 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
All file names are lower case (this makes some files inaccessible, because there are sometimes multiple files with the same name) and the modes, owners and groups are all --r--r--r-- (d-r-xr-xr-x for directories), cdrom and iso, respectively. Anonymous AWK fan -- Mailfence.com Private and secure

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-04-15 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> This text was generated by the GPT3 text generator using all licensing > related threads in 9fans as input. No it wasn't. I'm concerned because only one contributor (Nokia) transferred copyright of their contributions to the P9F which were then re-licensed, but everyone seems to think this app

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-04-15 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
I believe if Nokia published a Lucent Public License Version 2 which was identical to the P9F MIT license that would fully resolve the issue of re-licensing of contributions because the LPL v1.02 allows re-licensing to later versions of the LPL. Anonymous AWK fan --

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-04-02 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
Considering Plan 9 has been relicensed under the GPL before without permission from contributors and nobody said anything about needing permission from contributors, I now think this relicensing is probably fine. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.top

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> Anonymous AWK Fan, > > I believe you’re under a misapprehension about how copyrights and > source ownership work. You’re asking for solutions to problem that > don’t exist. Take the BCM code RM contributed to Plan 9, for instance. > Such contributions are considered a “gift” to the larger body

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> Instead of cluttering the mailing list, can you go > through the list of applied patches, track down the > authors, mail them off list about whether they have > objections to having their code relicensed, and > forward their responses in one batch? It appears many patches were submitted anonymou

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> As for what to do about a hypothetical patch rewriting a kernel > function that someone mailed to Bell Labs in 2003, well, I don't know. https://groups.google.com/g/plan9changes has many examples of patches contributed to Plan 9. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> I declare that the old bcm kernel found in the p9f code is OK > to be redistributed under the MIT license. Is the new one in your contrib directory OK to be redistributed under the MIT license too? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/gr

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> > The code under discussion > > in Richard Miller's contributed bcm kernel. > > The web page http://9p.io/sources/contrib/miller/9/bcm says > "Distributed under the MIT License" with a link to the p9f text. > Is that not explicit enough? the issue with that is AFAIK you didn't agree to have it

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> Richard Miller being in this very thread, you could presumably get him > to say "I declare that the old bcm kernel found in the p9f code is OK > to be redistributed under the MIT license" and be done with it. Or > declare the opposite, and the p9f can remove the kernel from the > source. The bcm

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> Everything up to and including the initial 4th edition release should be > fully MIT licensed because the old Plan 9 license gave Lucent unrestricted > rights to modifications. Excluding things explicitly said otherwise. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https:

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
Everything up to and including the initial 4th edition release should be fully MIT licensed because the old Plan 9 license gave Lucent unrestricted rights to modifications. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf20bce89ef96d4b6

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> I assume any code in contrib/ has its author’s copyright unless there is an > explicit copyright. The code I'm talking about is in the Plan 9 tree, I've found /sys/src/9/bcm/ as one example and I think there are probably more. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> > The issue is that there is some code in Plan 9 not written at > > Bell Labs which doesn't explicitly specify any license. > > What actual code are you reffering to? /sys/src/9/bcm, for example. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/gro

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> The LPL is dead. It died when all the Plan 9 IP was transferred to the > foundation. > > Nokia is out of the picture. > > So let's realign this discussion a bit. The Plan 9 source formerly > owned by Nokia is owned by the foundation. That source is released > under the MIT license. > > As for

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> > As I interpret it, we'd need Nokia to re-release Plan 9 under a Lucent > > Public License version 1.03 which would be the MIT license for > > contributions to be relicensed (if I'm interpreting it correctly the > > GPL release of Plan 9 couldn't apply to contributions either.) > > I Am Not A L

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> > I'm talking about things like the bcm kernel contributed by Richard Miller > > in the 4e-latest tarball, they weren't written at Bell Labs but were > > contributed back to Plan 9. > > I would have thought any third party code in the /sys/src tree is considered > to be a "Contribution" as def

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-30 Thread Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans
> The transfer announced at the beginning of this thread only applies to > the code that originated at Bell Labs (i.e. 1ed, 2ed, 3ed, 4ed, etc.) > > Any enhancements made externally (e.g. tls1.2) or new programs and > systems (e.g. abacus) carry whatever the respective authors have > released them