Thanks Noam for that summery; it's of great help.
-marco
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When knowledge is lacking, make assumptions and test them if possible. If
you're struggling, show your work so others can see and comment on your
mistakes. If I told you my math problem without showing my work, you couldn't
accurately assess my errors. This approach is based on my formal trainin
When you posted questions to a mailing list, pasted them into ChatGPT, and sent
the responses back to the list, you made several mistakes. Here are the key
points:
1. **Respect for Time**: Sending AI-generated responses that contain
inaccuracies or hallucinations wastes the time of those readin
And the cost, the payment people here often seek are useful contributions
and well crafted and understandable questions.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024, 6:33 PM Clout Tolstoy wrote:
> You have to know your target audience a bit, most people here are old
> hats, and not trying to step on any toes, but perh
You have to know your target audience a bit, most people here are old hats,
and not trying to step on any toes, but perhaps often on the "spectrum."
Plan 9 is often against the grain of modern trends but gets riffed from and
not a lot is returned to Plan 9.
But, no the real issue here is discourse
I'm not a troll; frustrated, perhaps. I just don't understand this culture. I
don't think the issue lies with LLMs, but rather with an unwillingness to
cooperate unless there's payment involved. I've never encountered an
open-source community quite like this. Creating a separate mailing list to
On Sunday, 4 August 2024, at 1:09 AM, Bakul Shah wrote:
> As we used to say in the Usenet era,
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(o o)
,ooO--(_)---.
| Please|
| don't feed the |
| TROLL's ! |
'--Ooo--'
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ooO Ooo
Deny them attention and they
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 03:49:36PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
wrote:
> jas.smoke via 9fans writes:
>
> > I want to copy text files from a Windows PC to a Plan 9 computer using a US=
> > B thumb drive.=C2=A0
>
> Format the thumb drive as a FAT32 filesystem and stick the files
> there
As we used to say in the Usenet era,
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(o o)
,ooO--(_)---.
| Please|
| don't feed the |
| TROLL's ! |
'--Ooo--'
|__|__|
ooO Ooo
Deny them attention and they will go away eventually.
On Aug 3, 2024, at 3:40 PM, o...@
Thank you very much, Lyndon and Ori, for your help.
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jas.smoke via 9fans writes:
> I want to copy text files from a Windows PC to a Plan 9 computer using a US=
> B thumb drive.=C2=A0
Format the thumb drive as a FAT32 filesystem and stick the files
there. On the plan9 side, see dossrv(4) and examine /bin/c: for
an example of what to do. You'll nee
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> If I cannot find support and collaboration on 9fans, where can I find active
> Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?
In light of the low quality of posts on this list, the p9f set up
a new, moderated, 9users list, and sent initial invites to people
Quoth jas.smoke via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>:
> Hi 9fans,
>
> How do I set up and manage external storage devices in Plan 9? I would like
> to attach a USB thumb drive to move files.
>
> -Jas
>
With 9Front, it should show up under /shr/usb automatically.
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jas.smoke via 9fans writes:
> How do I set up and manage external storage devices in Plan 9?=C2=A0 I woul=
> d like to attach a USB thumb drive to move files.
Move to where? I.e. what destination OS?
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03.08.2024 22:38:47 kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> This is a follow up from another thread. Here is a revised template. I
> removed the contested commands and kept the procedure generic to express an
> idea for improving documentation. I share this in hopes of fostering better
> ideas for e
Hi 9fans,
How do I set up and manage external storage devices in Plan 9? I would like to
attach a USB thumb drive to move files.
-Jas
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Code serves as a better single source of truth than 9fans. If you rely on 9fans
for accuracy, it's understandable to be upset when the quality of posts is
lacking. Accurate documentation is crucial when 9fans' quality declines.
If everyone shirks responsibility for documentation, the problem wil
This is a follow up from another thread. Here is a revised template. I removed
the contested commands and kept the procedure generic to express an idea for
improving documentation. I share this in hopes of fostering better ideas for
enhancing Plan 9 documentation.
It was suggested that we creat
03.08.2024 21:06:54 kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> Naom, 9fans isn't a single source of truth, but rather is a place for holding
> discussions.
Code doesn't lie. So code is the source of truth. Anything you say about how
things work which doesn't match reality, is therefore just wrong or a lie.
Noam is right in most of his text.
But I have to add that the following sentence should be taken with some grain
of salt.
> If the index is on a separate drive, though - e.g. index on SSD, data on HDDs
> - mirrorarenas can be used to keep the arenas in sync between multiple (sets
> of) HDDs,
khm, if you need validation as an expert, that's on you.
Naom, 9fans isn't a single source of truth, but rather is a place for holding
discussions.
I see this as a documentation problem. If people can't find information easily,
they ask. Without credible documentation, the cycle never ends. We
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it
> be.
>
> My point is accurate information should be easy to find and read
if you care about accurate information, the most helpful thing you can do
is stop using LLMs.
Sincerely, p
Quoth kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us:
> Would creating standard operating procedures for newcomers be beneficial?
> Having procedures detailing how to administer Venti mirroring on a Plan 9
> system in a wiki seems reasonable. Here is a formatted example of an SOP. I
> am sure something better coul
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:27:14PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
> khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it
> be.
I don't need your permission to think whatever I like, and there are
tons of other things I can do, like informing you that you're a us
khm, you can think whatever you like. If true, then all you can do is let it be.
My point is accurate information should be easy to find and read, like in a
wiki. Mailing lists are for discussions, not for searching answers. It’s ideal
when discussions lead to action items that improve the overa
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 02:10:43PM -0400, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote:
>
> cron '*/5 * * * * fs(3) -m /dev/sdE0/arena /dev/sdE1/arena'
>
When you generate bullshit with an LLM and then post it without reading
it, nobody thinks the LLM is stupid. We think *you* are stupid.
khm
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Having procedures detailing how to administer Venti mirroring on a Plan 9
system in a wiki seems reasonable. Here is a formatted example of an SOP. I am
sure something better could be created.
Standard Operating Procedu
Quoth Marco Feichtinger :
> venti/mirrorarenas is undocumented, and I couldn't find any topic here,
> which goes into more detail.
>
> So I am curious how does it work,
> how does one to set it up, so the arenas get mirrored automatically,
> and why do you use it instead of fs(3) mirror?
fs(3) c
Thanks Ron :)
In DIS assembly, this is written as jmp $0, which can be changed to jmp
$1 when I want to disable the loop and spare myself from decreasing all
PC offsets in the code.
Now, I have another problem: /prog/N/dbgctl can't be written to :/
Here is how to reproduce:
Save the file belo
On Linux, brightnessctl inside a file, to be opened by acme.
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> On Aug 3, 2024, at 1:32 PM, jas.smoke via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi 9fans,
>
> How do you control screen brightness?
>
> -Jas
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How do you control screen brightness?
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