When I call Xvnc directly (not using the vncserver script...)
How do I have it so the background is solid black instead of the lattice black and white thing? I need to have 'xsetroot -solid black' called at some point. What file do I have to modify? thanks! - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: When I call Xvnc directly (not using the vncserver script...)
But I am calling Xvnc directly. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: RE: When I call Xvnc directly (not using the vncserver script...) > I modified ~/.vnc/xstartup > > That is a script that runs when vncserver gets kicked off. > In fact, I have xhost, xrdb, xsetroot, $DISPLAY setting, and my window > manager in there; everything I need to make xvnc look like I want. > > HTH > > -- > Jeff Walker MatchLogic, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]7233 Church Ranch Blvd. > Voice 1 (303) 222-2105Westminster, CO 80021 > Fax 1 (303) 222-2001www.matchlogic.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael F. March [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: When I call Xvnc directly (not using the vncserver script...) > > > How do I have it so the background is solid black instead of > the lattice black and white thing? > > I need to have 'xsetroot -solid black' called at some point. > > What file do I have to modify? > > thanks! > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Secure VNC sessions
Using Cygwin's 'sshd' for Windows takes care of 85% of the issues you raised about VNC's insecure ways. 10% of your issues could be fixed with simple hacks to either the VNC client or server and the 5% balance would probably (but not necessarily) require some protocol enhancements. My point is: If you can trust using 'sshd' over the Internet then you should be able to trust using VNC over 'sshd'. I personally have multiple VNC connections tunneled over Openssh and Zebedee running over the general Internet 24x7. It performs great and I am comfortable with the security. VNC's simplicity is sometimes its worst enemy when it comes to security. However, that same simplicity makes it easy to combine with other security systems to give very adequate protection. > No. > > VNC client to/from server traffic is not encrypted and can be intercepted > and replayed. VNC has very weak authentication (it's reversible), and the NT > 4.0 registry permissions are atrocious. VNC uses well known ports. It > doesn't log adequately. It is not possible to determine who is using the VNC > connection as there's one password for all users on Win32, therefore > auditing. It doesn't indicate via a audio or other method (a small change in > systray color on Win32 hosts is all) that remote activity is going on. > > There is the VNC-SEC-L that was announced here the other day that is working > on some of these issues. It may be a while before all the issues are > addressed. Some can't be fixed easily and may take a fair amount of time. > Some issues require a small rev in the RFB protocol. Some efforts are not > worth pursuing, with the inclusion of TermSrv by default in >=Pro in Windows > XP, which is far more secure and faster than VNC. > > Now... if you establish a strongly authenticated encrypting VPN (ie IPsec, > established using SecurID or similar) to the perimeter of your network, and > you are the only one with the VNC administrator password, then this is fine. > Otherwise, I'll strongly advise against using VNC over the Internet. > > Andrew > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:40 PM > Subject: Secure VNC sessions > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new to VNC and need a little input from all you experienced guys (and > girls) > > out there: > > > > My scenario: Large corporate network behind Firewall-1, lots of NT4 > servers (and > > W2K servers in the near future), VPN and RAS authenticated by SecureID. > > > > Is it possible to establish secure VNC sessions from the outside in order > to > > remotely administer the servers without compromising network security? I > would > > love to be able to use eg. the Nokia 9110/9210 Communicator for this > purpose. > > > > -Jens Bruun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Secure windows to windows connections ???
Zebedee for Windows works and is free. sshd via OpenSSH, which comes with Cygwin, works and also is free. > We are investigating replacing PCAnywhere with VNC. > > Clearly, any supported platform to *NIX is up and running to our > expectations, even tunneled through ssh. > > Our greatest need is to connect *to* windows boxen. Yes, we can do > that, straight VNC to VNC; but, there is *no* security ;< > > ssh clients are no problem. sshd servers are difficult to find for > windows -- at least, not free ;< > > How have others solved this dilemma? Are there other [portable] > solutions, besides ssh and vpn? > > What do you think? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc?
I have looked at 'gotomypc' pretty extensively and I am pretty sure that is it not based on VNC at all. If you use the product, it seems to not exhibit many of the negative and positive characteristics that VNC has. It just plain does not have that VNC feel to it. If it is, they have hidden it VERY well. Also, the reason it works through firewalls (I believe) is that all connections (client and server) are outgoing to a centralized proxy server. - Original Message - From: "Eric Hanchrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:50 AM Subject: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc? > gotomypc.com offers remote access via the web -- you install some software > on one machine, and then can access that machine's desktop remotely by > pointing your web browser at gotomypc.com, and telling it the name of the > machine you want to connect to. It feels very much like VNC, except they've > done something very clever: the software that you install on the machine is > (I'm guessgin) technically a client, not a server, so it works behind > firewalls. That is, it doesn't use ports whose numbers are less than 1024, > and thus most firewalls will allow the connection. > > Anyway, I'm simply curious: does anyone know if indeed gotomypc is built > from a modified VNC, or, on the other hand, is it an independent bunch of > code? > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc?
The company I work for is using VNC using the exact same method as GoToMyPC employs and I have to say that using a Proxy almost always works the same or better than going point-2-point. If multiple people are viewing the same session, proxy always seems to work better. (Ever try more than two people sharing the same Windows box, forget it.) I have done traceroutes many times both between two VNC peers and then from each peer to the proxy and the total hop count of going through the proxy has never seemed to exceed 20% more than the peer to peer hop count. I will agree that if your proxy is on a crummy link, the advantages wither away (sands the firewall issues.) > There are a few similar sites. I have a feeling they're using the > NetMeeting ActiveX control or a variant thereof - apparently it's > customizable via the NetMeeting SDK. I personally have problems with using > a proxy to make these connections (ie, they can log connections, what do > they do with that info? The physical route between machines effectively can > be double what it needs to be if you're directly connected, depending on > where the control and the client are. Also you're at the mercy of the > uptime of their server, just to name a few.) > > Anyway, just my $.02. > > Glenn > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Hanchrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:50 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc? > > > gotomypc.com offers remote access via the web -- you install some software > on one machine, and then can access that machine's desktop remotely by > pointing your web browser at gotomypc.com, and telling it the name of the > machine you want to connect to. It feels very much like VNC, except they've > done something very clever: the software that you install on the machine is > (I'm guessgin) technically a client, not a server, so it works behind > firewalls. That is, it doesn't use ports whose numbers are less than 1024, > and thus most firewalls will allow the connection. > > Anyway, I'm simply curious: does anyone know if indeed gotomypc is built > from a modified VNC, or, on the other hand, is it an independent bunch of > code? > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc?
You are correct on this point. GoToMyPC is SUPPOSED to be encrypted end to end. However, since the source is not available, who knows. > My main problem with the GoToMyPC approach is you're proxying through a > server you don't know anything about. How secure is it? What do they log? > Who's watching? Maybe I'm just paranoid. :) > > Obviously those issues go away > if you're running your own proxy. Correct. > -Original Message- > From: Michael F. March [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc? > > > The company I work for is using VNC using the exact same method > as GoToMyPC employs and I have to say that using a Proxy almost > always works the same or better than going point-2-point. If > multiple people are viewing the same session, proxy always seems > to work better. (Ever try more than two people sharing the same > Windows box, forget it.) > > I have done traceroutes many times both between two VNC peers > and then from each peer to the proxy and the total hop count > of going through the proxy has never seemed to exceed 20% more > than the peer to peer hop count. > > I will agree that if your proxy is on a crummy link, the advantages > wither away (sands the firewall issues.) > > > There are a few similar sites. I have a feeling they're using the > > NetMeeting ActiveX control or a variant thereof - apparently it's > > customizable via the NetMeeting SDK. I personally have problems with > using > > a proxy to make these connections (ie, they can log connections, what do > > they do with that info? The physical route between machines effectively > can > > be double what it needs to be if you're directly connected, depending on > > where the control and the client are. Also you're at the mercy of the > > uptime of their server, just to name a few.) > > > > Anyway, just my $.02. > > > > Glenn > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Hanchrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:50 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc? > > > > > > gotomypc.com offers remote access via the web -- you install some software > > on one machine, and then can access that machine's desktop remotely by > > pointing your web browser at gotomypc.com, and telling it the name of the > > machine you want to connect to. It feels very much like VNC, except > they've > > done something very clever: the software that you install on the machine > is > > (I'm guessgin) technically a client, not a server, so it works behind > > firewalls. That is, it doesn't use ports whose numbers are less than > 1024, > > and thus most firewalls will allow the connection. > > > > Anyway, I'm simply curious: does anyone know if indeed gotomypc is built > > from a modified VNC, or, on the other hand, is it an independent bunch of > > code? > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc?
> > > Obviously those issues go away > > > if you're running your own proxy. > > > > Correct. > > Howso? You still have to pass all your session through > their servers, running your own proxy doesn't change > anything near as I can tell. > > I don't see anything nefarious in their offering. I'm sure > they will get a lot of takers. But I wouldn't touch it with > your ten foot pole. > > This is going to drive some IT security folks I know absolutely > nuts. > > Always assume everything is logged and watched. Remember, > it's good for the consumer. Our IT staff is running our own proxy servers for VNC, not GoToMyPC. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Is `gotomypc.com' built upon vnc?
> BTW, what kind of proxy setup are you using (ie, VNCProxy, something else)?? We created a proxy system 'in-house' use. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Zebedee-enabled Java VNC viewer available
Holy smoke.. This is super great news. - Original Message - From: "Neil Winton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Zebedee-enabled Java VNC viewer available > I probably should have announced this here before, but > if you are using Zebedee with VNC you might be > interested in a Zebedee-enabled version of the Java > VNC viewer. Yes, this only requires JDK1.1 and should > work on a Mac! > > This is an offshoot of my reimplementation of Zebedee > in Java. The Zebedee/VNC integration I have done is > very simplistic -- there's no control panel to alter > the Zebedee options so you just get Zlib level 6 > compression and 128-bit Blowfish encryption. If > someone want to do the GUI additions that would be > great. > > It's on Sourceforge. Head to: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/zebedee > > and go for the vnc-jzbd download. There's a source > archive and a prebuilt, read-to-go vncviewer.jar. > > Regards, > Neil > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: encrypted tunnel
Openssh on Cygwin works in 98, 98se, ME, etc too. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: encrypted tunnel > Yes! > > Use openssh on Windows! http://www.networksimplicity.com/openssh > > Well, only if you have NT/2K/XP. > > 1) Install openssh with instructions in that package on the sever machine. > 2) Install just the client package (in the same setup--can be put on 9x). 3) > Allow Loopback (see Winvnc documentation). Then: > > On client machine type: > > ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 server.address.com > > Then connect on client machine to localhost with vncviewer and authenticate. > > It is shockingly easy. > > Karen. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dixieland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:44 PM > Subject: encrypted tunnel > > > > hello, > > > > this is a question for anyone who has suuccessfully setup and run VNC > > through an encrypted tunnel. i have looked into Zebede, OpenSSH for > Win32, > > and Tunnelier... all with minimal success... mostly because of a lack of > > good documentation. while Zebede looked very promising (as the authors > > wrote it practically FOR vnc purposes) the documentation had only "follow > > this example to get it working" style directions. my situaion is unique > and > > i would like more details on it functinality. > > > > Tunnelier looked REMARKABLE - but has absolutely NO documentation. if > > anyone can get that product working i would LOVE to see an online help or > > walkthrough of its features. > > > > anyone else have suggestions? are there any projects in the works for a > > SecureVNC? > > > > - Dixieland > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC with builtin Encryption
Is there any way to connect to do this? Connect to a Zebedee server running on non-standard port A and that tunnels to a normal VNC server that runs on non-standard port B. thanks! > I've built a new VNC branch which embeds the encryption and tunneling > from ZeBeDee directly in the VNC server and client. The new server > and client (windows only) are compatible with standard VNC > and with any existing setup which uses ZeBeDee tunneling. > > See: http://people.we.mediaone.net/ddyer/znc/zvnc.html > > for details and downloads. - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC with builtin Encryption
There is the SSH enabled java VNC viewer: http://www.appgate.com/products/mindterm/personal/mindterm_old_downloads.htm l And the ZeBeDee enabled java VNC viewer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zebedee Both provide encrypted VNC connectivity, with a little work. > This is awesome. However, I am still searching for the following. I would > like to be able to connect to the built in java client via a secure > connection from a web client (i.e. https://Some_server:port address). Any > clues to how I can set this up? > > TIA, > > --Stacy > > At 06:51 AM 10/1/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >Is there any way to connect to do this? > > > >Connect to a Zebedee server running on non-standard port A and that > >tunnels to a normal VNC server that runs on non-standard port B. > > > >thanks! > > > > > I've built a new VNC branch which embeds the encryption and tunneling > > > from ZeBeDee directly in the VNC server and client. The new server > > > and client (windows only) are compatible with standard VNC > > > and with any existing setup which uses ZeBeDee tunneling. > > > > > > See: http://people.we.mediaone.net/ddyer/znc/zvnc.html > > > > > > for details and downloads. > >- > >To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > >'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > >- > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC server on a system without any graphics system whatsoever?
Off the main download page for VNC: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/rfbcounter.html Or if your device runs a Java VM: http://www.amherst.edu/~tliron/vncj/ - Original Message - From: "Alex Pavloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: VNC server on a system without any graphics system whatsoever? > Hey folks. > > Is it possible to create a "fake" VNC server? I'm sure it is, but has > anyone done it, or are there any comments on what would need to be done. > > Lets say I have an embedded device with no display whatsoever (not even any > display hardware), connected via Ethernet. I want to use the Java Viewer > (or any viewer, really) and connect to this device to view a bunch of > screens that have been created *somewhere* in the embedded device by an > application that I've written to handle all the mouse and keyboard events > coming over the network. No changes to the viewer really, but a server for > completely abstract display. > > Any thoughts? > > Alex Pavloff > Software Engineer > Eason Technology > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC with builtin Encryption
I have to say that my informal tests with using both SSH with compression and ZeBeDee compared to TightVNC is that TightVNC encoding seems to update the screen slower.. > >Subject: RE: VNC with builtin Encryption > > > >Very cool!! Feature request: pls. port it to latest TightVNC. > > > >Glenn > > You'll have to lobby the tightvnc people for that; but it may not > as important as you would think. > > ZeBeDee (and therefore ZVNC) includes compression on the otherwise-final > data stream. My seat of the pants impression is that it substantially > improves on VNC. I was pretty surprised. - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Accessing a NT terminal server from VNC..
Can anyone tell me what is the better route: This.. http://services.simac.be/vnc/gina.html or http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~tme23/vdesktop/ Do these two projects do the same thing? help. - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC and Zebedee connection via web browser
Are you using the ZeBeDee/VNC Java applet? - Original Message - From: "Matthew Kolbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: VNC and Zebedee connection via web browser > Hi Everyone: > > I am trying to play with VNC and the Zebedee tunneling program and I am > having trouble setting it up to connect via a web browser. Is it possible > to have Zebedee be set up to accept incoming connections via a web browser > and still be encrypted? If so, how is it done? Thanks for your help. > > Matthew Kolbo > Network Engineer > Northwest College > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC and Zebedee connection via web browser
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zebedee There is a link to download the applet on that page. > No, I didn't find anything like that. Where is that located? Thanks for > your help. - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: TVNC Pro Observations
Does TVNC Pro come with source code? > Really? I don't see a file transfer feature anywhere in his program. It > also will not locate clients on it's own, you must hand type them all in. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lee Douglas > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TVNC Pro Observations > > > Sounds as if the have invented the same thing that Tony Caduto has already > released - VNC Commander. Which runs great, BTW! And his already has file > transfer... > > Tony's at "Tony Caduto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Lee > > > At 10:06 AM 10/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Tried the Beta/Demo.. just seems like htey tacked > >on a pretty front end to locate and connect.. ( oh > >and 'file transfer coming soon'. ) > > > >Makes things a bit eaiser, with a gui/click and view > >interface, but what sysadmin doesnt know what his > >machines are called and if they have vnc installed, > >( 'auto detect' ) and cant type a simple name in pretty > >darned fast > > > >Using NT Domain authencitation IS cool, if you are > >on an NT domain.. be easy to effectivly change passwords > >in-masse instead of touching each pc.. > > > >But it sounds a bit high for a ( windows centeric ) convience, > >@ $50/workstation? True it might save time... donno ... > > > >Zig- - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: OS X Version?
OSXVNC.com - Original Message - From: "Aaron Guy Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "VNC Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: OS X Version? > Is there an OS X version of VNC planned? I know I can now use Xfree86 to > run Unix apps remotely and I can ssh in to my box to do system stuff, but > there's still no way of which I'm aware to use actual Mac apps, ie > Classic, Carbon, or Cocoa remotely. > -- > ____ >/ ) / ) > /--/ __. __ / / __. , __o _ _ > / (_(_/|_/ (_(_) / / <_ /__/_(_/|_\/ <__ - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Mac OS X
> I just got an iBook, and I'm running Mac OS X (10.1). > Is there a VNC client that will work on this? http://www.webthing.net/vncthing/ > Is there a VNC server that will work on this? http://www.osxvnc.com - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Anyone try TridiaVNC pro yet?
From their web site: All of the features of TridiaVNCT, plus a whole lot more... Full MS Windows Remote Control Supports ALL Video Cards Explorer Type Graphical User Interface SSL-Compatible Encryption MS Windows NT User Authentication MS Windows Installer [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of pointer_dkblue.gif] - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: TVNC Pro Observations
The installer they use adds like 5 megs overhead that is pretty much useless. > Ahh, who ever puts in their real address anyways? That's what hotmail and > yahoo accounts are for. ;) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Norberto Bensa > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TVNC Pro Observations > > > 9+ MB ? They must be kidding... > and now they have my Email address for spam... *argh!* > > Norberto > > > > _ Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com -- > --- > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC Server on NIC Computer (www.thinknic.com)
I have one... What is annoying is that you can not do port forwarding with the SSH client so all your VNC connections are unencrypted. Also, the VNCclient is GUI based and it does not expose all the parameters that you can invoke from the command line under Unix. > > Does anyone own the NIC Computer from Oracle, it is a snazzy $200 beauty > > that is reported to have a Linux VNC build on it. I can't tell if it has > the > > server or just the viewer.The computer is diskless, so it really can't > > be added, but I'm curious if any of y'all have one and are using VNC > server > > on it. > > Linux Journal did an in-depth review of this in February. Check out: > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4475 > > I am very interested in this devices, and I have a couple potential projects > in mind for it. But I haven't actually touched one yet. > > The article said it includes vncviewer. It would not include VNC server -- > this device is purely a 'client' in every sense. > > -Lee Allen > > > > > I'm getting one of these computers in a few days. - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Hardware VNC / Redux
Same here.. no reply. > >From an earlier post, i looked at those 'vnc terminals' that > where mentioned.. ( axel's ). Looks really cool. but > 800x600x8?? > > That's pretty useless in todays world.. anyone know if they > have plans to ugrade to more useable video? > > Plus anyone got pricing? I've not had any reply from my > request to their support people. > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC for Mac OS X?
OSXVNC.com - Original Message - From: "Walt Pawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: VNC for Mac OS X? > Is there a Mac OS X port of VNC now? Or, is anyone working on one? > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
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All these forks of VNC development have been great and they show that VNC development is by no means stagnant. The issue I think is on most people's mind (or mine at least) is that we all look to AT&T as the 'pure' source of VNC and from time to time we would like AT&T to take the "best of the best" features of all the features that have been brewing out there and incorporate them into AT&T's own version. I don't think people want AT&T to go nutz and put in every feature that comes down the pike but things like Tight encoding which I think everyone agrees should be core functionality at some point should be blessed by AT&T by putting it into a future release. Having the AT&T version somewhat current will insure that more people will contribute to VNC. If some organization wants to extent VNC now, they have to pick from all these non-official forks to base their extended functionality on. Have the AT&T branch less stale makes this less of an issue. My fear is that some people might be holding back work on VNC because they are waiting for AT&T to catch up on some functionality that they feel is missing. Another issue... The longer AT&T waits to put out another version of VNC, the harder it will be for the other forks to 'sync' to the AT&T branch if they find that is one of their goals. > AT&t may not have released a new version for a while, but that doesn't mean > VNC development in general has stopped. Take a look at tightVNC > (http://www.tightvnc.org) - while still using the base VNC structure, the > developer has added significant bandwidth-saving code. There is also a > commercial entity called Tridia that sells a branded version of VNC - > http://tridiavnc.com > > There are also other groups working on improving security in VNC, such as > the Secure VNC project - http://securevnc.sourceforge.net , and also ZVNC > (integrated Zebedee tunneling software) - URL escapes me. > > Also, various people are discussing improving the underlying RFB protocol > that VNC uses. > > Yes, AT&T hasn't released a new version for a while (Wez mentioned he was > writing his graduate thesis). However, this most certainly does not mean VNC > development has stopped. Due to the Open Source nature of VNC, anyone who > has something to contribute most certainly can. > > Glenn > > -Original Message- > From: Anouk Kuiling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 4:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AT&T > > > Why is AT&T now stopped with made new versions of VNC? > > VNC is latest produced in March 2001. The latest version is 3.3.3 R9 - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC Ports
> http://home.earthlink.net/jknapka/vncpatch.html 404 Error.. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Toolkit examples..
>From the "How it works" web page: "We have also created simple servers which produce displays other than desktops, using a simple toolkit. A "VNC CD player", for example, generates a CD player user interface using the protocol directly without any reference to a windows system or framebuffer. Such servers can run on very simple hardware, and can be accessed from any of the standard viewers." Where is this 'toolkit'? thanks! -- Michael March /"\ 602-296-0400 \ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] X Against HTML Mail / \ - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC server for Mac OS X available
> >On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 08:42 PM, Dan McGuirk wrote: > >> So I've managed to hack together a VNC server for OS X, starting with > >> the Xvnc code. (It's a native server--it reflects the OS X Aqua > >> desktop over VNC.) > > > >Very, very cool. Apple did a lot of work with the CGRemoteDisplay API, and > >Dan McGuirk's work is a straightforward modification of Xvnc. Very nice. > >Need to add a few touches and wait for an Apple bug fix, but otherwise it' > >s almost ready for prime time. > > The large PNG screenshot on the site appears to be broken (it doesn't > display on my machine). Is anyone else having this issue? What browser are you using? I just tried it on under Linux Mozilla, Windows IE, OSX IE and Linux Communicator and it seems fine (I just wanna give a quick shout out to VMware... "yo"). However, sometimes IE under Windows fires up QuickTime to view the graphic, which is kinda weird. > Also, if this is a straight hack to Xvnc, it > probably needs lots of optimisation before it is as bandwidth-efficient as > ChromiVNC. Aside from the additions of more encodings (which I realize is a big deal), what other optimizations does ChromiVNC have over stock Xvnc? > It's nice to see that API actually works, though... - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC Online Demo on Internet ?
It gone: http://www.workspot.com/appspot/unavailable.html - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:17 AM Subject: Re: VNC Online Demo on Internet ? > >Is there any web site on the internet which displays > >VNC demo ? > > I understand WorkSpot has a demonstration at http://www.workspot.com/. > > -- > from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not for attachments) > big-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > uni-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The key to knowledge is not to rely on people to teach you it. > > Get VNC Server for Macintosh from http://www.chromatix.uklinux.net/vnc/ > > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > Version 3.12 > GCS$/E/S dpu(!) s:- a20 C+++ UL++ P L+++ E W+ N- o? K? w--- O-- M++$ V? PS > PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R !tv b++ DI+++ D G e+ h+ r++ y+(*) > -END GEEK CODE BLOCK- > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC server for Mac OS X available
> >What browser are you using? > > Netscape Communicator 4.76, Macintosh PPC. It uses QuickTime to view the > graphic. Incidentally, it also took a while to download - what are you > running the server off? Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/3.0.15 mod_perl/1.24 on FreeBSD. > > >Aside from the additions of more encodings (which I realize is a big > >deal), what other optimizations does ChromiVNC have over stock Xvnc? > > Actually, ChromiVNC does not yet support any encodings beyond the standard > RFB 3.3 set (Raw, RRE, CoRRE and Hextile). It doesn't even support > CopyRect yet, and may not do for some time. The main optimisations so far > are: > > - True frame-differencing (makes sure an area is different from what the > client last saw before attempting to send it). > > - Determines the most space-efficient encoding to send an area with, by > encoding with each in turn and comparing the resulting data sizes. This is > not always the "most advanced" encoding available. It also exposes bugs in > clients which haven't been tested so rigourously with the "less advanced" > encodings. :) > > Both of these consume some RAM and CPU, but for a machine capable of > running MacOS X (what is it, a G3 with 128Mb RAM?) these should not be > significant. In fact, the frame-differencing has a positive side-effect on > CPU consumption for several reasons, although the resulting rectangle > matrix is somewhat suboptimal at present. > > Also, ChromiVNC is under proactive research and development, whereas Xvnc's > featureset has remained almost static for some time. I intend to implement > the Zlib encoding in the reasonably near future, and I am currently working > on features that a good proportion of the VNC community has been requesting > for a long time. Additional techniques to improve efficiency are also > being devised between myself and Adrian, although implementation of these > ideas is lagging a little due to unavailability of time to do so. > > These features include: view-only passwords (which have been implemented > for Xvnc but not in the mainstream tree), longer password support, and > encryption (currently only available using complex third-party tools such > as SSH). > > BTW, do you handle multiple monitors? If so, how? Hmm. I think the author, Dan McGuirk, should be able to answer this one. I am just an end luzer running and early tester of this software on a lonely iMac. My knowledge of the internals is minimal to say the least. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
list activity..
Everyone, Is anyone here also subscribed to the Tridia VNC lists? Is there any compelling reason to subscribe to both the normal and Tridia VNC lists? thanks. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC vs Tridia
I use them both and since they interoperate very well, it does not seem to be a pain to have them both around. On my Windows box, for instance, both versions of the client share most of the same config and register settings so I can pop back and forth between both versions with little hassle. > Okay, I've seen many references to the two suites, but I'm looking for > something more conclusive. > > I see that Tridia has more encoding options (adding compression), but AT&T > VNC is ported to more platforms. Fine. But as my primary use is 100% > "wintel" << yeah, yeah, *nix is much better, but I'm a corporate IT guy > that has to support an infrastructure of wintel boxes---cut me some slack, > OK ;-) >> and both suites exist for that platform, I'd *really* like to > know why some of you have mixed installations. Basically, if you're using > Tridia to get better WAN/dialup inet performance, why keep AT&T VNC around > for the LAN side? What's to be gained by a mixed VNC infrastructure? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Mindterm VNC (SSH java applet) with Tight Encoding..
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Re: VNCHooks patch to trigger updates on mouse movement
This patch worked so good, I am weeping.
Seriously, GREAT job!
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: VNCHooks patch to trigger updates on mouse movement
> Hi folks,
>
> The enclosed patch to VNCHooks.cpp is an attempt to make apps like
> CorelDRAW a bit more usable with VNC.
>
> With a stock VNC, CorelDRAW V9 on NT 4 fails to redraw the canvas
> unless the 'update on timer' option is enabled. This, of course, tends
> to make the whole system rather sluggish. Enabling polling is another
> possibility but, again, soaks up lots of CPU time. What I want is a
> mechanism that doesn't use up lots of CPU but still provides an update
> strategy suitable for use with an interactive program.
>
> So instead of triggering an update on every timer message, the patch
> detects mouse movement and will trigger an update after a
> (configurable) period of time has elapsed between
> movements. Furthermore, if the mouse movements stop, and a timer
> message is received after the timeout period has elapsed, the update
> will get triggered. The parameter 'MouseMoveTimeout' should be set to
> the number of milliseconds delay required. For me, (100 - 250) works
> OK. Setting it to 0 (the default value) disables the mechanism.
>
> It's rather a hack, and sometimes you have to waggle the mouse again
> to get an update but I prefer the behaviour to the alternatives.
>
> If anyone has any better ideas or improvements to this code, please
> post them to the list.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> PS. perhaps this or something similar could be integrated into the
> standard VNC release, I'm sure there must be quite a few apps that
> would benefit from such a mechanism.
>
> PPS. If anyone wants to try this and cannot produce binaries I can
> make the modified VNCHooks.dll available.
> --- VNCHooks.cpp~ Mon Mar 5 17:32:17 2001
> +++ VNCHooks.cpp Sun May 20 15:17:25 2001
> @@ -70,6 +70,9 @@
> BOOL prf_use_MButtonUp = FALSE; // Use middle mouse button up events
> BOOL prf_use_RButtonUp = FALSE; // Use right mouse button up events
> BOOL prf_use_Deferral = FALSE; // Use deferred updates
> +UINT prf_MouseMoveTimeout = 0; // Delay period between last mouse move and update
> +
> +DWORD lastMouseMoveAt = 0; // time when mouse was last moved
>
> HKEY hModuleKey = NULL; // Key used to save settings
> HINSTANCE hInstance = NULL; // This instance of the DLL
> @@ -577,7 +580,15 @@
> break;
>
> case WM_TIMER:
> - if (prf_use_Timer)
> + if(lastMouseMoveAt != 0)
> + {
> + if((GetCurrentTime() - lastMouseMoveAt) > prf_MouseMoveTimeout)
> + {
> + SendDeferredWindowRect(hWnd);
> + lastMouseMoveAt = 0;
> + }
> + }
> + if (prf_use_Timer)
> SendDeferredWindowRect(hWnd);
> break;
>
> @@ -692,6 +703,16 @@
> // WinRFB also wants to know about mouse movement
> case WM_NCMOUSEMOVE:
> case WM_MOUSEMOVE:
> + if (prf_MouseMoveTimeout != 0)
> + {
> + DWORD currentTime = GetCurrentTime();
> + if(lastMouseMoveAt == 0 ||
> +(currentTime - lastMouseMoveAt) > prf_MouseMoveTimeout)
> + {
> + SendDeferredWindowRect(hWnd);
> + }
> + lastMouseMoveAt = currentTime;
> + }
> // Inform WinRFB that the mouse has moved and pass it the current cursor handle
> PostMessage(
> hVeneto,
> @@ -1034,6 +1055,10 @@
> "use_Deferral",
> TRUE
> );
> + prf_MouseMoveTimeout = GetProfileInt(
> + "MouseMoveTimeout",
> + 0
> + );
>
> return TRUE;
> }
> @@ -1088,6 +1113,11 @@
> WriteProfileInt(
> "use_Deferral",
> prf_use_Deferral
> + );
> +
> + WriteProfileInt(
> + "MouseMoveTimeout",
> + prf_MouseMoveTimeout
> );
>
> free(sModulePrefs);
> -
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Outbound connections on Windwos VNCserver..
Is there any way from the command line to specify the outbound port out a outbound connection from the VNC server from the command line? thanks! - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se..
When using SSH or Stunnel to forward a outgoing server connection, the WinVNC server on my Windows box becomes unresponsive. This is using both stock VNC with Hextile and TridiaVNC with Tight encoding. If I happen to turn on compression for SSH however, things work smashingly well. Without compression on SSH (or stock Stunnel) only 1/4 of the screen gets sent before the server becomes unusable. Anyone have any ideas? Tight encoding doesn't require SSH zlib compression, right? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
FOLLOW UP: Re: VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se..
I verified this exact behavior on a completely deferent Windows 98 machine. I also tried this on a Windows 2000 machine and in that case the WinVNC server process locked up but the rest of the machine seemed to be fine. - Original Message - From: "Michael F. March" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se.. > When using SSH or Stunnel to forward a outgoing server connection, the > WinVNC server on my Windows box becomes unresponsive. This is using > both stock VNC with Hextile and TridiaVNC with Tight encoding. If I > happen to turn on compression for SSH however, things work smashingly > well. Without compression on SSH (or stock Stunnel) only 1/4 of the > screen gets sent before the server becomes unusable. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Tight encoding doesn't require SSH zlib compression, right? > > - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
I JUST CAN NOT SHUT UP ABOUT THIS: Re: VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se..
Just to make sure that the Stunnel binary and WinVNC server were not acting weird together, I established the tunnel on another workstation in my house and had the WinVNC server connect through that. Same result. > I verified this exact behavior on a completely deferent Windows > 98 machine. I also tried this on a Windows 2000 machine and in > that case the WinVNC server process locked up but the rest of > the machine seemed to be fine. > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael F. March" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:45 PM > Subject: VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se.. > > > > When using SSH or Stunnel to forward a outgoing server connection, the > > WinVNC server on my Windows box becomes unresponsive. This is using > > both stock VNC with Hextile and TridiaVNC with Tight encoding. If I > > happen to turn on compression for SSH however, things work smashingly > > well. Without compression on SSH (or stock Stunnel) only 1/4 of the > > screen gets sent before the server becomes unusable. > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Tight encoding doesn't require SSH zlib compression, right? > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Happy ending..
Using Zebedee solved all my problems. Even over desperately slow links, it works great. Thanks to everyone that emailed me.. > Just to make sure that the Stunnel binary and WinVNC server were > not acting weird together, I established the tunnel on another > workstation in my house and had the WinVNC server connect through > that. > > Same result. > > > I verified this exact behavior on a completely deferent Windows > > 98 machine. I also tried this on a Windows 2000 machine and in > > that case the WinVNC server process locked up but the rest of > > the machine seemed to be fine. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael F. March" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:45 PM > > Subject: VNCserver locks up when going over a uncompressed tunnel on Windows98se.. > > > > > > > When using SSH or Stunnel to forward a outgoing server connection, the > > > WinVNC server on my Windows box becomes unresponsive. This is using > > > both stock VNC with Hextile and TridiaVNC with Tight encoding. If I > > > happen to turn on compression for SSH however, things work smashingly > > > well. Without compression on SSH (or stock Stunnel) only 1/4 of the > > > screen gets sent before the server becomes unusable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > Tight encoding doesn't require SSH zlib compression, right? > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Happy ending..
Using Stunnel for the client side stuff has always worked moderately well for me. It is the WinVNC server that didn't work for nothing.. - Original Message - From: "Jason Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Happy ending.. > Hmmn, just the yesterday I set up STUNNEL on port 5801, redirected to 5800 - > used a browser to connect to 5801 and everything went as fast as normal. > > (I actually have a feeling, though, that after making the initial connection > to port 5801 and putting in the password, all the rest of the connection by > the Java app is through port 5900 making my SSL for naught. I'll know better > when I get back home.) > > > On 31/05/2001 at 12:50 PM Michael F. March wrote: > > >Using Zebedee solved all my problems. Even over desperately slow > >links, it works great. > > > >Thanks to everyone that emailed me.. > > > >> Just to make sure that the Stunnel binary and WinVNC server were > >> not acting weird together, I established the tunnel on another > >> workstation in my house and had the WinVNC server connect through > >> that. > > i > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Business use of VNC
What if you modified the VNCserver but kept the client software intact.. Meaning the VNCserver ran on your servers, modified, but the clients are unmodified. Is the GLP being violated? What is the scoop there? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Business use of VNC > > Say that someone wanted to make a business that used VNC as a tool to > > help determine what was wrong with a customers PC and fix the problem > > through VNC. Say also that they charged a fee for this service. For > > every customer that was brought aboard for this service, the customer > > would be given an executable of VNC and they were also given a link to > > download the source files of VNC from the businesses servers. Would > > this business be violating the GNU license in any way, shape, or form? > > Simple answer: no. > > The text of the GPL states that you may redistribute GPL'ed software in > any form, provided you also provide an undertaking to also supply the > sourcecode for all GPL'ed software you distribute in other forms. If > the source is not actually bundled with the executable, you must provide > an undertaking valid for 3 years to supply that sourcecode. If you > believe your business FTP servers will be stable for that long, go for > it. > > Charging for GPL'ed software is allowed, provided you don't restrict the > recipient from distributing the software in any way they see fit. > Charging for services rendered using or in respect of the software is > also allowed - Tridia support VNC packages which they build, enhance and > certify themselves, and Red Hat et al charge for "supported" versions of > their Linux distributions. > > HTH, > -- > from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not for attachments) > website: http://www.chromatix.uklinux.net/vnc/ > geekcode: GCS$/E dpu(!) s:- a20 C+++ UL++ P L+++ E W+ N- o? K? w--- O-- > M++$ >V? PS PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R !tv b++ DI+++ D G e+ h+ r++ y+(*) > tagline: The key to knowledge is not to rely on people to teach you it. > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Business use of VNC
> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 11:54 pm, Michael F. March wrote: > > > What if you modified the VNCserver but kept the > > client software intact.. Meaning the VNCserver > > ran on your servers, modified, but the clients > > are unmodified. > > Slightly more touchy, depending on your point of view. You might > consider it prudent to install a copy of the source (perhaps if only in > zipped archive form) alongside the binaries on the servers, or to ensure > that technicians charged with administering these machines have access > to a copy of the source. Ah.. So can you instruct the technicians to not distribute the source of the server outside the company? To be clear, in my scenario, customers would be connecting to a server for some ASP application. The VNC server they would be connecting to would be running a modified VNC server. The ASP might make some modifications to the client too but those changes would obviously include source for those modifications. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Business use of VNC
- Original Message - From: "Derek Di Matteo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael F. March" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Business use of VNC > Hi, sorry to join this late... > I just wanted to make sure the GPL rules were clearly defined. > > > Ah.. So can you instruct the technicians to not distribute the source > > of the server outside the company? > No. If you use GPL'd source code to create a modified version of some > GPL'd program that you then distribute, you must release the modified source > code under the GPL. If you don't ship the modified source code with any > binaries you distribute, then you must make it available upon request. In > either case GPL license must accompany the program (binary and source). You > cannot sell GPL code. You can sell services. You can make GPL'd programs used > by you for your services freely available. Give back to the community and > keep free software free. The modified GPL code would not be 'shipped' or 'distributed' anywhere outside the company. It would be used on servers that provide a service. So in this case, 'customers' would be using the normal VNC client and they would connect to a server that some ASP that happens to run a modified version of the Xvnc server. So under this circumstance, the code for the modified internal version of Xvnc would have to be made available to the public even though they are not getting a copy of the binaries? - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC as spyware on TV
How many simultaneous people can be sharing the same desktop in Netmeeting? Does the desktop sharing using a TCP based protocol? If not, going through firewalls must be a pain.. > Mark, have you had a chance to compare VNC to NetMeeting as far as > bandwidth usage is concerned? Do you have any hard facts on which one > performs better? > > Thanks...Robert > > > > > "Mark Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@uk.research.att.com on 06/25/2001 > 11:28:10 AM > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject: RE: VNC as spyware on TV > > > VNC is used in our shop as an Xvfb and for remote server support and maint > (almost exclusively). For the masses (particularly IT managers and > security folks) the primary application for VNC is going to be electronic > monitoring.It doesn't really matter what emphasis you give to the web > page either. > > Spyware aside we are also gearing up to use VNC (modified form) for > net conferencing; instead of netmeeting or econference. We have used > VNC for netdemos also, which is just a specialized net conference where > all clients are view only.The demo conference is hosted on a Linux box > that serves out an X connection in viewonly mode. A vncviewer is started > on the same Linux host connecting back to the Windose box where the demo is > being run. So, all clients (whatever platform) connect to the Linux box > either with their browser or vncviewer and are able to see the software > demo that is happening on the windose box.It is a lot of network > traffic, but limiting to viewonly, restricting the colors to 8bit, and > simplifying the backgrounds help with bandwidth. I have found it a more > reliable conferencing solution in some situations. > > Some people will use VNC for spyware.(very sad) > > > > Mark H. Harris <>< > > Staff Software Engineer > Software Tools Development - IBM Rochester, MN > iSeries Dept EL8Y/664-3 E115 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8) 456-6910 1-507-286-6910 > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: VNC as spyware on TV
Let me try that again.. Does anyone know how many simultaneous desktop sharing connections Netmeeting can host? Does Netmeeting use TCP or H.323 for the protocol for desktop sharing? > How many simultaneous people can be sharing the same desktop > in Netmeeting? > > Does the desktop sharing using a TCP based protocol? > > If not, going through firewalls must be a pain.. > > > > > > Mark, have you had a chance to compare VNC to NetMeeting as far as > > bandwidth usage is concerned? Do you have any hard facts on which one > > performs better? > > > > Thanks...Robert > > > > > > > > > > "Mark Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@uk.research.att.com on 06/25/2001 > > 11:28:10 AM > > > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > Subject: RE: VNC as spyware on TV > > > > > > VNC is used in our shop as an Xvfb and for remote server support and maint > > (almost exclusively). For the masses (particularly IT managers and > > security folks) the primary application for VNC is going to be electronic > > monitoring.It doesn't really matter what emphasis you give to the web > > page either. > > > > Spyware aside we are also gearing up to use VNC (modified form) for > > net conferencing; instead of netmeeting or econference. We have used > > VNC for netdemos also, which is just a specialized net conference where > > all clients are view only.The demo conference is hosted on a Linux box > > that serves out an X connection in viewonly mode. A vncviewer is started > > on the same Linux host connecting back to the Windose box where the demo is > > being run. So, all clients (whatever platform) connect to the Linux box > > either with their browser or vncviewer and are able to see the software > > demo that is happening on the windose box.It is a lot of network > > traffic, but limiting to viewonly, restricting the colors to 8bit, and > > simplifying the backgrounds help with bandwidth. I have found it a more > > reliable conferencing solution in some situations. > > > > Some people will use VNC for spyware.(very sad) > > > > > > > > Mark H. Harris <>< > > > > Staff Software Engineer > > Software Tools Development - IBM Rochester, MN > > iSeries Dept EL8Y/664-3 E115 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8) 456-6910 1-507-286-6910 > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
VNC used in a commerical product..
FYI.. This might be old news but when I was reading PC Magazine yesterday it said that this product: http://216.167.48.69/products/ uses unmodified VNC extensively. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Say it isn't so...
Cripe.. What is the future of official VNC release from AT&T? > !! > > Oh no > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, 2002-04-22 15:36 > Subject: Say it isn't so... > > > > According to the article below ATT is going to shut down the Cambridge > > labs! > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4398235,00.html > > > > -Kevin > > - > > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > - > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: OSXvnc: Screen Trashed In Viewer
I have word that new and improved version should be here "very soon now". Thanks. > I'm running OSXvnc 0.6 under OS X 10.1.4, but when I connect with a > viewer, the screen appears garbled. I get multiple horizontal copies of > everything. What's going on? Is anybody still maintaining OSXvnc? - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
