RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses

2001-02-16 Thread Graham Downs

Please don't blaspheme - I have a problem with it.

Anyway, to quote the GripeMaster at www.gripelist.com:

[...]

3. If you are writing because you want to be removed from this list, you are
obviously an illiterate idiot!

:)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Taroli
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 23:33
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


oh god... not again. ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Kenny Pharo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Please take me off this distribution!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Hey Ric,
This is a Win2k security issue. If you go to
http://windows.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/professional/help/HowTo_share_co
nn_config.htm

OR Read the following,

To configure Internet connection sharing for applications and services

Open Network and Dial-up Connections
Right-click the shared connection, and then click Properties.
On the Sharing tab, verify the Enable Internet connection sharing for this
connection check box is selected, and then click Settings.
If you want to configure a network application for the computers sharing the
connection, on the Applications tab, click Add, and then do the following:
In Name of application, type an easily recognized name for the application.
In Remote server port number, type the port number of the remote server
where the application resides, and then click either TCP or UDP.
In TCP or UDP or both, type the port number for the port on your home
network that the application will connect to. Some applications require TCP
and UDP port numbers.
If you want to configure a service to provide to users on remote networks,
on the Services tab, click Add, and then do the following:
In Name of Service, type an easily recognized name for the service.
In Service port number, type the port number of the computer where the
service resides, and then click either TCP or UDP.
In Name or address of server computer on private network, type the name or
TCP/IP address of the computer on your home network where the service
resides.
 Important

If you do not know the values for the remote server port number, incoming
response port numbers, or the service port number, see your system
administrator.
 Note

To open Network and Dial-up Connections, click Start, point to Settings, and
then click Network and Dial-up Connections.
To configure Internet connection sharing, you must be logged on as an
Administrator or a member of the Administrators group.
You must enable Internet connection sharing to configure applications and
services

Hope this helps,

Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ric Gagliardi
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Hi.  I just downloaded this magical package, and had it up and running on my
local network in a matter of minutes (amazing!).

My problem is that I'd like to access it from the Internet, but I cannot
connect to the server from the outside.

My server is a Windows 2000 box acting as a firewall/proxy.  It has two
NIC's and two IP addresses.  One is directly on the Internet, the other is
on my LAN (192.168.0.1).  When I use the local IP address it works fine, but
when I use the "public" address, it doesn't work.  My friend from the
outside also tried and cannot connect.

When I move the mouse over the VNC icon in the toolbar, it reports both IP
addresses (the public address first).  I tried both the server and the app
versions.

Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance for your help.

-- Ric Gagliardi
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Java viewer in a browser not working

2001-02-16 Thread John Marks

I have TridiaVNC running on my HP-UX box.  I got the Java application
working just fine, although it sure is a dog.  I've been trying to connect
to the server with the Java applet though, without much luck.  Here are the
details.

I start the VNCserver as follows:

Xvnc :2 -httpd /opt/TridiaVNC/classes -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 -cc
4

I comes back and says:

15/02/01 11:46:52 TridiaVNC release 1.2.2
15/02/01 11:46:52 VNC protocol version 3.3
15/02/01 11:46:52 Copyright (C) 2000 Tridia Corporation.
15/02/01 11:46:52 All Rights Reserved.
15/02/01 11:46:52 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge.
15/02/01 11:46:52 All Rights Reserved.
15/02/01 11:46:52 See http://www.TridiaVNC.com/ for information on
TridiaVNC
15/02/01 11:46:52 Desktop name 'x11' (machinename:2)
15/02/01 11:46:52 Protocol version supported 3.3
15/02/01 11:46:52 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5902

Cool so far.  When I want to start the Java viewer in my Netscape browser
at URL "http://machinename:5902", I get the following Netscape errors:

1) The document contained no data.  Try again later
and
2) Unknown status reply from server: 3!

When I try the same URL from Internet Explorer, I get the following error:

RFB 003.003

The output from the Xvnc server gives me the following errors:

15/02/01 11:49:57 Got connection from client "*.*.*.*"
15/02/01 11:49:57 rfbProcessClientProtocolVersion: not a valid RFB
client
15/02/01 11:49:57 Client "*.*.*.*" gone
15/02/01 11:49:57 Statistics:
15/02/01 11:49:57   framebuffer updates 0, rectangles 0, bytes 0

Anybody know what is going on?  I sure would like to get the screen output
running in a broswer.

John
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Uninstalling WinVNC

2001-02-16 Thread A Matias

I had some software that automatically installs WinVNC 
as part of the installation program (don't even see 
when it is installed).  The programs runs and the icon 
appears on the taskbar.  When you right-click nothing 
happens and cannot get into the settings.

How can I remove the software (files, registry entries, 
etc.) from my system?  Like the software but I want to 
control the installation and its parameters (as well as 
the password).

Thanks.
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[Xvnc] Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached

2001-02-16 Thread Kazuro FURUKAWA

Hello,

Some time ago someone asked about maximum connections to Xvnc.  
  From: steffen.jung at detesystem.de
  Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:16:21 +0200
  Subject: Xlib: maximum number of clients reached
  Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
And there was no answer in the archive. 

Now I sometimes hit the limit as shown in the following example.  
Could someone give me some hints where I should modify the source 
codes in order to extend the the number of clients? 

  % xclock
  Xlib: connection to ":9.0" refused by server
  Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
  Error: Can't open display: :9.0
  % ps -p 1109 -o comm
  Xvnc-tight1.1p4
  % lsof -p 1109 | grep TCP|wc -l
  54
  % ulimit -Sn
  4096

Cheers.
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 Linac,  High Energy Accelerator Research Organization (KEK), Japan
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RE: Uninstalling WinVNC

2001-02-16 Thread Sabatini, Ken L

Aside from simply hacking through the system hoping to get all the leftovers
from this installation, I would suggest finding a system that does not have
the VNC software on it, running some sort of capture utility like Wise or
Install Shield while installing the VNC software and then taking that result
to use as a guide to manually remove the VNC components.  Then you can
reinstall VNC in a controlled manner.

-Original Message-
From: A Matias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Uninstalling WinVNC


I had some software that automatically installs WinVNC 
as part of the installation program (don't even see 
when it is installed).  The programs runs and the icon 
appears on the taskbar.  When you right-click nothing 
happens and cannot get into the settings.

How can I remove the software (files, registry entries, 
etc.) from my system?  Like the software but I want to 
control the installation and its parameters (as well as 
the password).

Thanks.
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Re: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses

2001-02-16 Thread Matthias Szusdziara

Make sure, that the ports 58xx and 59xx are open on your outside ip, where xx 
specifies the display...

HTH

Matt
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Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1028

2001-02-16 Thread SMiller

Or maybe the instuctions should be in multiple languages (say, French and
German), but his posts show no sign of the need for this.  Or maybe he is
an illiterate moron who needs to be discouraged from joining any more lists
and then wasting time and bandwidth by whining about how he cannot get off.
YMMV;>)
>Well, hold off on him, maybe he just has a hard time reading the
>instructions at the bottom :-)
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RE: Java viewer in a browser not working

2001-02-16 Thread Steve Palocz

Add to your command line -httpport 5802, next connect to 5802 like
http://machine:5802



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Marks
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Java viewer in a browser not working


I have TridiaVNC running on my HP-UX box.  I got the Java application
working just fine, although it sure is a dog.  I've been trying to connect
to the server with the Java applet though, without much luck.  Here are the
details.

I start the VNCserver as follows:

Xvnc :2 -httpd /opt/TridiaVNC/classes -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 -cc
4

I comes back and says:

15/02/01 11:46:52 TridiaVNC release 1.2.2
15/02/01 11:46:52 VNC protocol version 3.3
15/02/01 11:46:52 Copyright (C) 2000 Tridia Corporation.
15/02/01 11:46:52 All Rights Reserved.
15/02/01 11:46:52 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge.
15/02/01 11:46:52 All Rights Reserved.
15/02/01 11:46:52 See http://www.TridiaVNC.com/ for information on
TridiaVNC
15/02/01 11:46:52 Desktop name 'x11' (machinename:2)
15/02/01 11:46:52 Protocol version supported 3.3
15/02/01 11:46:52 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5902

Cool so far.  When I want to start the Java viewer in my Netscape browser
at URL "http://machinename:5902", I get the following Netscape errors:

1) The document contained no data.  Try again later
and
2) Unknown status reply from server: 3!

When I try the same URL from Internet Explorer, I get the following error:

RFB 003.003

The output from the Xvnc server gives me the following errors:

15/02/01 11:49:57 Got connection from client "*.*.*.*"
15/02/01 11:49:57 rfbProcessClientProtocolVersion: not a valid RFB
client
15/02/01 11:49:57 Client "*.*.*.*" gone
15/02/01 11:49:57 Statistics:
15/02/01 11:49:57   framebuffer updates 0, rectangles 0, bytes 0

Anybody know what is going on?  I sure would like to get the screen output
running in a broswer.

John
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mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread David Rothman

with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward port
590x to machine(x).

presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using win
2000 pro)
on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not obvious
to
me.  i would think it's an argument to the \\server\share
syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
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RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses

2001-02-16 Thread Romero, Alex A.

maybe you should learn to read to the bottom of the screen it's the vertical
bar on the right

-Original Message-
From: Kenny Pharo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Please take me off this distribution!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Hey Ric,
This is a Win2k security issue. If you go to
http://windows.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/professional/help/HowTo_share_co
nn_config.htm

OR Read the following,

To configure Internet connection sharing for applications and services

Open Network and Dial-up Connections
Right-click the shared connection, and then click Properties.
On the Sharing tab, verify the Enable Internet connection sharing for this
connection check box is selected, and then click Settings.
If you want to configure a network application for the computers sharing the
connection, on the Applications tab, click Add, and then do the following:
In Name of application, type an easily recognized name for the application.
In Remote server port number, type the port number of the remote server
where the application resides, and then click either TCP or UDP.
In TCP or UDP or both, type the port number for the port on your home
network that the application will connect to. Some applications require TCP
and UDP port numbers.
If you want to configure a service to provide to users on remote networks,
on the Services tab, click Add, and then do the following:
In Name of Service, type an easily recognized name for the service.
In Service port number, type the port number of the computer where the
service resides, and then click either TCP or UDP.
In Name or address of server computer on private network, type the name or
TCP/IP address of the computer on your home network where the service
resides.
 Important

If you do not know the values for the remote server port number, incoming
response port numbers, or the service port number, see your system
administrator.
 Note

To open Network and Dial-up Connections, click Start, point to Settings, and
then click Network and Dial-up Connections.
To configure Internet connection sharing, you must be logged on as an
Administrator or a member of the Administrators group.
You must enable Internet connection sharing to configure applications and
services

Hope this helps,

Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ric Gagliardi
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses


Hi.  I just downloaded this magical package, and had it up and running on my
local network in a matter of minutes (amazing!).

My problem is that I'd like to access it from the Internet, but I cannot
connect to the server from the outside.

My server is a Windows 2000 box acting as a firewall/proxy.  It has two
NIC's and two IP addresses.  One is directly on the Internet, the other is
on my LAN (192.168.0.1).  When I use the local IP address it works fine, but
when I use the "public" address, it doesn't work.  My friend from the
outside also tried and cannot connect.

When I move the mouse over the VNC icon in the toolbar, it reports both IP
addresses (the public address first).  I tried both the server and the app
versions.

Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance for your help.

-- Ric Gagliardi
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Quick Desk

2001-02-16 Thread SMiller

Before I go translating the help file from German to English, is there
anyone on the list who is using the QuickDesk and/or FileServer tools from
Bankenservice GmbH to do file transfers from within VNC?  If yes, are you
in a position to give a synopsis of using these tools (nickel tour level
would be fine, as would a pointer to English language docs somewhere
else;?)  The QuickDesk product screens are in English, but are minimal, and
the help file is in German.  The FileServer product is entirely in German.
I'm particularly interested in whether QuickDesk (which has a graphic
FTP-style interface) is self-sufficient, or whether it needs FileServer
active on the VNC server to function;  whether any compatibility issues
exist with recent versions of VNC or TridiaVNC; whether incompatibilities
exist with the zebedee VPN product; and whether the product requires any
open ports beyond what are required for VNC and FTP.  The QuickDesk url, if
anyone is interested, is:
http://www.gtgbankenservice.de/downloads/vncqd/
the babelfish translation setup (you'll need to click the "Translate"
control) is at:
http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gtgbankenservice.de%2Fdownloads%2Fvncqd%2F&lp=de_en&doit=done&frame=random
I am in the process of deploying VNC for technical support purposes for my
employer, and file transfers are a frequent requirement.  A VNC-aware
solution would be a real plus.  Thanks in advance for any information you
can provide.
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Multiple Monitor Patch (was: WinVNC quad monitor support.)

2001-02-16 Thread Jay Freeman \(saurik\)

OK, I keep forgetting to announce this, but here goes.  A few months ago I
mentioned that I had worked on the starts of a patch to do multiple monitors
last year.  Well, on the encouragement of a few people from this list, I
continued working on it, and I ended up with something that works very well.
Then I ended watching two months of my life go by in fast forward, bringing
me here.  I have plans on more features I want to add to it (such as being
able to address individual monitors separately through different display
numbers), but what I have _would_ do what Dean wants :).  Right now it just
creates a bounding box of all the monitors on the screen and remotes that
larger window.

The mouse code is a little sketchy on Windows 98, but it detects if you have
2000 (or if you just don't have multiple monitors, in which case it uses the
original mouse code) and then uses a much cleaner method.  Problem being you
can't use mouse_event() to do an absolute mouse move to any monitor other
than the primary monitor on 98, but you can on 2000... MSDN recommends
changing the mouse sensitivity options, moving the cursor to the upper-left
corner of the primary monitor, and then doing relative move to the position
you need... ick... will need to look more into straight point-to-point
relative mouse moves and whether or not those would work well enough (I'm
mainly worried about accidental clicks or drags or whatever if the mouse on
the server gets bumped while doing work, and the click is now relative to
that offset point as opposed to an absolute position that wouldn't get
messed up)... regardless, I digress.

Just the new executable:
ftp://ftp.saurik.com/pub/vnc/MultiVNC-0.0.1.exe

The source code:
ftp://ftp.saurik.com/pub/vnc/MultiVNC-0.0.1.src.zip

CVS access (for generating patches or tracking sources or whatever):
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/nmap
Passwd: cvs  //  Module: vnc

If people would like just diffs instead of CVS access I can provide that
(will get around to it regardless, would just take longer than if you poke
me, hehe).

Ken Malencia, one of the two people who were interested in the patch, has
been using this regularly for a while now and has claimed that it has been
working fine; but I still wouldn't recommend you overwrite your existing VNC
executable :).  I gave it a different icon (the VNC "user in system"
notification icon), so it fits nicely as MultiVNC.exe and "WinVNC
(MultiMon)".

Sincerely,
Jay Freeman (saurik)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James ''Wez''
Weatherall
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WinVNC quad monitor support.

WinVNC doesn't presently support multiple monitors unless the OS itself can
merge them into one huge display.  If the OS does this, it should work with
WinVNC.  This may change in a future release, but not anytime soon, I'm
afraid.

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
--
  "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment"
Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513
AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK  - Tel : 343000

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From: "Dean Howell-Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: WinVNC quad monitor support.


> I apologize if this is a FAQ, but I have read everything I can find and
> haven't found an answer so far.
>
> We have a quad head Windows2000 machine which we are using to drive a
video
> wall. We would like to use VNC to allow remote users to layout the app
> windows on the displays. The displays are currently organized:
>
> |---|---|
> | 1 | 2 |
> |---|---|
> | 3 | 4 |
> |---|---|
>
> VNC is set-up as a service on the quad head machine. The machines are
> running with 4 PCI video cards. Display 1 is a Matrox Mystique PCI and
> Displays 2,3,4 are ATI Rage 128 GL PCI, all using native Win2k drivers and
> native Win2k multiple monitor support. All displays are set for 1024x768,
16
> bit color.
>
> Currently when we access the machine we only see screen 3 in the client.
>
> Is it possible (if so how) to set this up so that the client sees all 4
> displays as 1 virtual desktop?
>
>
> **
>  Dean Howell-Fellows
>  Sr. Engineer, Service Assurance Systems
>  TELUS Communications Inc.
>  Calgary, AB, Canada
>  Ph:(403)530-4438  Fax:(403)232-6159
>  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> **
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RE: Trouble with VNC and OpenView

2001-02-16 Thread Mel Stotyn

Fred's suggestion solved the problem.  I only changed the 5 to 3 in the
InitPointerDeviceStruct line in init.c.

It seems clear that HP OV NNM binds it's "middle" and "right" menus to the
last two buttons rather than explicitly to buttons 2 and 3.
I found this behavior on olwm and afterstep as well, fvwm2 worked OK with
the 5 button pointing device init.

Mel Stotyn, Senior Specialist   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
403 537-5913
Quick Link Communications Ltd.  http://www.qlccom.com   403 265-5558
1505, 311 6 Avenue SW
Calgary, AB
T2P 3H2

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From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:05 AM
To: ovforum: the OpenView Forum mail list for network management
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ovforum] RE: Trouble with VNC and OpenView

Well, if that's the case then changing the number of buttons on the pointer
device should revert to the old behavior, or at least it's worth a try.
Looks like line 627 in init.c () has a:

InitPointerDeviceStruct(pDev,map,5,miPointerGetMontionEvents,
...

Someone could try changing this to ...map,3,... to see what it does.  Could
probably bring the map array down to a size of 4 (for a max index of 3)
also.  Or maybe you need to change the map settings in the previous lines.
May be the third button actually maps to the "last" button on the actual
device, or 5 in the new code.  I'd give it a try but I have to physically
move my management station today :-)

Fred Reimer
Eclipsys Corporation

> -Original Message-
> From: Mel Stotyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:08 PM
> To: ovforum: the OpenView Forum mail list for network management
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ovforum] RE: Trouble with VNC and OpenView
>
>
> I have also had this problem.
> I have VNC 3.3.3r2 on Solaris 8 running the server half and
> VNC 3.3.3r7 on
> WIN2K running the viewer.
> I retrieved the previous versions from the VNC site and still
> have the same
> problem.
> I retrieved VNC 3.3.2r2 from an old backup and ran a server
> instance on my
> Solaris box; still VNC 3.3.3r7 viewer on WIN2K.
>   This does not have the right mouse problem.
> Therefore, the problem appears to have been introduced in the
> VNC server
> after 3.3.2r2.
>
> Here is a difference:
>
> xmodmap -pp  # prints the current pointer map
>
> There are 3 buttons in VNC 3.3.2r2; there are 5 buttons in
> 3.3.3r1 and r2.
> I don't know if this is what is causing the problem or not.
>
> I searched the VNC mailing list archive and found some
> discussion of this
> issue in 2000/06 and 2000/10 but no resolution.
>
> Mel Stotyn, Senior Specialist
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> -Original Message-
> From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > To: ovforum: the OpenView Forum mail list for network management
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> >
> > Hi,
> > Anyone out there using VNC to view Openview NNM?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > Have you had trouble with the right mouse button in
> > the  Topology view? Mine doesn't seem to work. I've
> > tried swapping buttons on the mouse and different
> > window managers, but no luck.
>
> Yes - same problem.
>
> >
> > Has anyone found a workaround/fix ?
>  You may also try writing to the folks at AT&T to see if they have a
> work-around...
>
> > Running NNM 6.1 on Solaris 2.6 with Win32 VNC 3.3.3r2
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave.
> >
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RE: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle

That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).  NOT a smart idea. 

-Original Message-
From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mapping a remote drive


with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward port
590x to machine(x).

presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using win
2000 pro)
on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not obvious
to
me.  i would think it's an argument to the \\server\share
syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread David Rothman

yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC or
ftp for that matter?

in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
world, might it not be even safer?

- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).  NOT
a smart idea.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
port
> 590x to machine(x).
>
> presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using
win
> 2000 pro)
> on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
obvious
> to
> me.  i would think it's an argument to the \\server\share
> syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
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RE: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle

I see thousands more scans against port 138 than I do against port 5800 or
5900.  Yes, if you limit your exposure, that's true and you absolutely have
to have good passwords that are changed often.  And you have to make
absolutely sure that you haven't forgotten to patch something that leaves
port 138 vulnerable to a known hack. 

Just because port 138 is well known, it scares me to open it more than VNC.
There are lots more attempts against port 138 than VNC.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive


yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC or
ftp for that matter?

in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
world, might it not be even safer?

- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).  NOT
a smart idea.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
port
> 590x to machine(x).
>
> presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using
win
> 2000 pro)
> on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
obvious
> to
> me.  i would think it's an argument to the \\server\share
> syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
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(X) window location & size

2001-02-16 Thread Lee Allen

This must be a FAQ but I can't find any mention of it on the VNC web
page or in the last 3 months of mailing-list archive.

I am running VNC server on Linux, vncviewer on Windows 9x.  When I
connect, I get that ghostly, skeletal box that I must position to where
I want the X window placed.  I move it to where I want it and then my
application appears.

I am trying to simplify this as much as possible for end users.  Is
there some way to get the X window to immediately go to the extreme
upper left?

I realize this is probably more an X question than VNC.

Thanks.

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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread Joseph A. Knapka

Lyle wrote:
> 
> That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).  NOT a smart idea.
> 

You can tunnel it over SSH though. (Probably need port 139 for disk
shares;
I think 138 is the NetBIOS name service.)

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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread Mac Reiter

>yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
>password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC or
>ftp for that matter?
>
>in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
>world, might it not be even safer?

Well, it would be, except that Microsoft has demonstrably pathetic
security.  Workgroup sharing passwords can be bypassed (note that I did not
say cracked, simply bypassed), and the method for doing so is widely known.

Mac
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RE: (X) window location & size

2001-02-16 Thread Liaw, Andy

> I am running VNC server on Linux, vncviewer on Windows 9x.  When I
> connect, I get that ghostly, skeletal box that I must 
> position to where
> I want the X window placed.  I move it to where I want it and then my
> application appears.
> 
> I am trying to simplify this as much as possible for end users.  Is
> there some way to get the X window to immediately go to the extreme
> upper left?
> 
> I realize this is probably more an X question than VNC.

Not exactly.  This has to do with the window manager in X.  Some (most?)
window managers have a resource/setting/option called window placement
policy.  In your case the default must be something like "ask", which
lets the user place the window.  Other possible settings are "random"
or even "smart".  If you are using twm (as the vncserver script calls
by default), check the man pages for twm.

As you can tell by now, this is window manager specific, and not a
whole lot to do with X per se.

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RE: (X) window location & size

2001-02-16 Thread Mel Stotyn

I added the directive "RandomPlacement" in
"/usr/openwin/lib/X11/twm/system.twmrc" on my Solaris box.
You will need to find where the "system.twmrc" file is placed on Linux.
Also if you specify geometry on any clients started in the xstartup file,
they will be placed.

By all means, though, do read the man page since there is a more complete
discussion in there.

Mel Stotyn, Senior Specialist   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   403 
537-5913
Quick Link Communications Ltd.  http://www.qlccom.com   403 265-5558
1505, 311 6 Avenue SW
Calgary, AB
T2P 3H2

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Liaw, Andy
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: (X) window location & size

> I am running VNC server on Linux, vncviewer on Windows 9x.  When I
> connect, I get that ghostly, skeletal box that I must
> position to where
> I want the X window placed.  I move it to where I want it and then my
> application appears.
>
> I am trying to simplify this as much as possible for end users.  Is
> there some way to get the X window to immediately go to the extreme
> upper left?
>
> I realize this is probably more an X question than VNC.

Not exactly.  This has to do with the window manager in X.  Some (most?)
window managers have a resource/setting/option called window placement
policy.  In your case the default must be something like "ask", which
lets the user place the window.  Other possible settings are "random"
or even "smart".  If you are using twm (as the vncserver script calls
by default), check the man pages for twm.

As you can tell by now, this is window manager specific, and not a
whole lot to do with X per se.

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Re: (X) window location & size

2001-02-16 Thread Lee Allen

Thanks, that nailed it!

"Liaw, Andy" wrote:

> > I am running VNC server on Linux, vncviewer on Windows 9x.  When I
> > connect, I get that ghostly, skeletal box that I must
> > position to where
> > I want the X window placed.  I move it to where I want it and then my
> > application appears.
> >
> > I am trying to simplify this as much as possible for end users.  Is
> > there some way to get the X window to immediately go to the extreme
> > upper left?
> >
> > I realize this is probably more an X question than VNC.
>
> Not exactly.  This has to do with the window manager in X.  Some (most?)
> window managers have a resource/setting/option called window placement
> policy.  In your case the default must be something like "ask", which
> lets the user place the window.  Other possible settings are "random"
> or even "smart".  If you are using twm (as the vncserver script calls
> by default), check the man pages for twm.
>
> As you can tell by now, this is window manager specific, and not a
> whole lot to do with X per se.
>
> Andy
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Can't start vnc service

2001-02-16 Thread Morris, Steve

On WinNT The "admin->install service" refuses to install a service; of
course with no diagnostic info. I believe my problem is that winvnc is
already listed as a service in the services list. Unfortunately I can find
no way of deleting things from this list. The services utility allows
disabling a service but not deleting it. Uninstalling a newly installed
winvnc does not delete it. I obviously did this once before since it is
there in the service list which means I have appropriate install privileges.
Any clue how I can delete that useless winvnc service so I can reinstall it?

I probably forgot to uninstall once before reinstalling and now I am being
punished in perpetuity for my sin. ;-).

Any advice gratefully and politely accepted.
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread David Rothman

ok fair enuf.   clearly if u r not behind a router and/or
firewall, u shud only enable print/file sharing if you've
done the 'unbinding dance' and only permit the sharing to be
done with something other than tcp/ip (namely netbeui).

but let me see if i understand you/this correctly:

with vnc, to let the outside world connect to various
machines behind a router, u would forward say port 5800 to
192.168.0.1 and 5801 to 192.168.0.2  and so on.  IF one
wanted to use the mapped drive idea, and if that entails
opening port 138, how would u go about assigning the other
machines in the LAN?  IOW, i doubt that its 138 for
192.168.0.1 and 139 to 192.168.0.2 etc.

lastly, if one is using vnc, is ftp the generally accepted
way to handle file xfer?  or should i be exploring win 2000
vpn (or something else)?  thanks...




- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> I see thousands more scans against port 138 than I do
against port 5800 or
> 5900.  Yes, if you limit your exposure, that's true and
you absolutely have
> to have good passwords that are changed often.  And you
have to make
> absolutely sure that you haven't forgotten to patch
something that leaves
> port 138 vulnerable to a known hack.
>
> Just because port 138 is well known, it scares me to open
it more than VNC.
> There are lots more attempts against port 138 than VNC.
>
> Lyle
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
> password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC
or
> ftp for that matter?
>
> in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
> world, might it not be even safer?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
> Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> > That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).
NOT
> a smart idea.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> > behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
> port
> > 590x to machine(x).
> >
> > presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using
> win
> > 2000 pro)
> > on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
> obvious
> > to
> > me.  i would think it's an argument to the
\\server\share
> > syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
>
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RE: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle

Netbeui is not routable and won't work through any router.(Netbios riding on
top of TCP/IP or IPX/SPX is different)

Yes that is one way to connect via VNC to various machines behind a
firewall.  And FTP, HTTP and such are fairly hard coded, but they can be
moved to'non-standard' ports.  FTP would probably be the hardest as it would
take some playing on the client end.  HTTP is easy to 'move' on the client
end for special machine.

But the suggestion for SSH makes the most sense to me.

-Original Message-
From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive


ok fair enuf.   clearly if u r not behind a router and/or
firewall, u shud only enable print/file sharing if you've
done the 'unbinding dance' and only permit the sharing to be
done with something other than tcp/ip (namely netbeui).

but let me see if i understand you/this correctly:

with vnc, to let the outside world connect to various
machines behind a router, u would forward say port 5800 to
192.168.0.1 and 5801 to 192.168.0.2  and so on.  IF one
wanted to use the mapped drive idea, and if that entails
opening port 138, how would u go about assigning the other
machines in the LAN?  IOW, i doubt that its 138 for
192.168.0.1 and 139 to 192.168.0.2 etc.

lastly, if one is using vnc, is ftp the generally accepted
way to handle file xfer?  or should i be exploring win 2000
vpn (or something else)?  thanks...




- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> I see thousands more scans against port 138 than I do
against port 5800 or
> 5900.  Yes, if you limit your exposure, that's true and
you absolutely have
> to have good passwords that are changed often.  And you
have to make
> absolutely sure that you haven't forgotten to patch
something that leaves
> port 138 vulnerable to a known hack.
>
> Just because port 138 is well known, it scares me to open
it more than VNC.
> There are lots more attempts against port 138 than VNC.
>
> Lyle
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
> password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC
or
> ftp for that matter?
>
> in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
> world, might it not be even safer?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
> Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> > That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).
NOT
> a smart idea.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> > behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
> port
> > 590x to machine(x).
> >
> > presumably this is also true with mapping a drive (using
> win
> > 2000 pro)
> > on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
> obvious
> > to
> > me.  i would think it's an argument to the
\\server\share
> > syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
>
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread David Rothman

- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> Netbeui is not routable and won't work through any
router.(Netbios riding on
> top of TCP/IP or IPX/SPX is different)

yes..i didn't mean netbeui as a standalone.


>
> Yes that is one way to connect via VNC to various machines
behind a
> firewall.

that is one way to use VNC to machines behind a firewall?
what is another?


> And FTP, HTTP and such are fairly hard coded, but they can
be
> moved to'non-standard' ports.  FTP would probably be the
hardest as it would
> take some playing on the client end.  HTTP is easy to
'move' on the client
> end for special machine.

i don't understand.  i merely meant you'd run an ftp server
on one end and move files that way.  Q55 in the FAQ suggests
"use the standard file transfer built into Windows, or use
FTP, or netcat, or the web, or rcp, or ssh, or... ".  when
it refers to 'std file xfer build into windows" aren't they
talking about mapped drives?  m not sure what u mean by
'moving' HTTP on the client end.  can u plse explain?





>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> ok fair enuf.   clearly if u r not behind a router and/or
> firewall, u shud only enable print/file sharing if you've
> done the 'unbinding dance' and only permit the sharing to
be
> done with something other than tcp/ip (namely netbeui).
>
> but let me see if i understand you/this correctly:
>
> with vnc, to let the outside world connect to various
> machines behind a router, u would forward say port 5800 to
> 192.168.0.1 and 5801 to 192.168.0.2  and so on.  IF one
> wanted to use the mapped drive idea, and if that entails
> opening port 138, how would u go about assigning the other
> machines in the LAN?  IOW, i doubt that its 138 for
> 192.168.0.1 and 139 to 192.168.0.2 etc.
>
> lastly, if one is using vnc, is ftp the generally accepted
> way to handle file xfer?  or should i be exploring win
2000
> vpn (or something else)?  thanks...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:05 PM
> Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> > I see thousands more scans against port 138 than I do
> against port 5800 or
> > 5900.  Yes, if you limit your exposure, that's true and
> you absolutely have
> > to have good passwords that are changed often.  And you
> have to make
> > absolutely sure that you haven't forgotten to patch
> something that leaves
> > port 138 vulnerable to a known hack.
> >
> > Just because port 138 is well known, it scares me to
open
> it more than VNC.
> > There are lots more attempts against port 138 than VNC.
> >
> > Lyle
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
> > password, is it any different that opening a port for
VNC
> or
> > ftp for that matter?
> >
> > in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to
the
> > world, might it not be even safer?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > > That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).
> NOT
> > a smart idea.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: mapping a remote drive
> > >
> > >
> > > with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> > > behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
> > port
> > > 590x to machine(x).
> > >
> > > presumably this is also true with mapping a drive
(using
> > win
> > > 2000 pro)
> > > on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
> > obvious
> > > to
> > > me.  i would think it's an argument to the
> \\server\share
> > > syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
> >
>
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-16 Thread David Rothman

is SSH with win 2000 really a practical solution for the
'simple' task of file xferring when ftp is an available
option, or am i missing something?


- Original Message -
From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive


> Netbeui is not routable and won't work through any
router.(Netbios riding on
> top of TCP/IP or IPX/SPX is different)
>
> Yes that is one way to connect via VNC to various machines
behind a
> firewall.  And FTP, HTTP and such are fairly hard coded,
but they can be
> moved to'non-standard' ports.  FTP would probably be the
hardest as it would
> take some playing on the client end.  HTTP is easy to
'move' on the client
> end for special machine.
>
> But the suggestion for SSH makes the most sense to me.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> ok fair enuf.   clearly if u r not behind a router and/or
> firewall, u shud only enable print/file sharing if you've
> done the 'unbinding dance' and only permit the sharing to
be
> done with something other than tcp/ip (namely netbeui).
>
> but let me see if i understand you/this correctly:
>
> with vnc, to let the outside world connect to various
> machines behind a router, u would forward say port 5800 to
> 192.168.0.1 and 5801 to 192.168.0.2  and so on.  IF one
> wanted to use the mapped drive idea, and if that entails
> opening port 138, how would u go about assigning the other
> machines in the LAN?  IOW, i doubt that its 138 for
> 192.168.0.1 and 139 to 192.168.0.2 etc.
>
> lastly, if one is using vnc, is ftp the generally accepted
> way to handle file xfer?  or should i be exploring win
2000
> vpn (or something else)?  thanks...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:05 PM
> Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
>
>
> > I see thousands more scans against port 138 than I do
> against port 5800 or
> > 5900.  Yes, if you limit your exposure, that's true and
> you absolutely have
> > to have good passwords that are changed often.  And you
> have to make
> > absolutely sure that you haven't forgotten to patch
> something that leaves
> > port 138 vulnerable to a known hack.
> >
> > Just because port 138 is well known, it scares me to
open
> it more than VNC.
> > There are lots more attempts against port 138 than VNC.
> >
> > Lyle
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
> > password, is it any different that opening a port for
VNC
> or
> > ftp for that matter?
> >
> > in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to
the
> > world, might it not be even safer?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: mapping a remote drive
> >
> >
> > > That means opening up netbios to the world(port 138).
> NOT
> > a smart idea.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: David Rothman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: mapping a remote drive
> > >
> > >
> > > with vnc, when you want to talk to machine(x) which is
> > > behind a router, the router needs to be set to forward
> > port
> > > 590x to machine(x).
> > >
> > > presumably this is also true with mapping a drive
(using
> > win
> > > 2000 pro)
> > > on a machine behind a router, but the syntax is not
> > obvious
> > > to
> > > me.  i would think it's an argument to the
> \\server\share
> > > syntax.  does anyone know what it is?  thanks..
> >
>
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Firewall question..

2001-02-16 Thread Eric Greenberg

New subscriber here (thanks for the idea David!!).  VNC has worked well for 
me so far but for one issue.  I cannot get my Linksys router to forward 
ports properly through its firewall.  I am forwarding port 5800 and 5900 to 
the static internal IP of my machine, but no matter what I do I cannot get 
it to work from the outside.

I have enabled Remote Administration of the router, so I can go in and 
manually put my machine in the DMZ from the outside world, and then access 
VNC just fine either with through the web server or the VNC 
client.  Obviously, this leaves me wide open to the rest of the world and I 
already had a problem getting hacked when I forgot and left my machine in 
the DMZ for a long period of time.  Came home that day to find Norton had 
stopped a virus (actually a trojan) from an unknown source.

I should add that I am currently running a Windows ME machine as the 
server, and my workstation at work is running NT 4 SP5.

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RE: Firewall question..

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle

The only issue I can think of right off hand is that you have to connect to
the public IP address of the router.  For instance, your router has a
public(Internet) address of 209.172.152.101 and your internal machine is
192.168.0.50.  Then you would try to VNC to 209.172.152.101:5900 (or :5800
from a browser).  And the router should be forwarding ports 5800 & 5900 to
192.168.0.50.


-Original Message-
From: Eric Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Firewall question..


New subscriber here (thanks for the idea David!!).  VNC has worked well for 
me so far but for one issue.  I cannot get my Linksys router to forward 
ports properly through its firewall.  I am forwarding port 5800 and 5900 to 
the static internal IP of my machine, but no matter what I do I cannot get 
it to work from the outside.

I have enabled Remote Administration of the router, so I can go in and 
manually put my machine in the DMZ from the outside world, and then access 
VNC just fine either with through the web server or the VNC 
client.  Obviously, this leaves me wide open to the rest of the world and I 
already had a problem getting hacked when I forgot and left my machine in 
the DMZ for a long period of time.  Came home that day to find Norton had 
stopped a virus (actually a trojan) from an unknown source.

I should add that I am currently running a Windows ME machine as the 
server, and my workstation at work is running NT 4 SP5.

TIA
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RE: Firewall question..

2001-02-16 Thread Eric Greenberg

Thanks Lyle.  That is exactly how it works for me now.  With the DMZ host 
turned on ALL ports automatically get forwarded to my private IP from the 
router.  What I am trying to do is to just forward the ports needed for VNC 
and turn off the DMZ feature leaving the rest of my ports secure.

I have tried every range of ports I can think of (and read about thus far) 
and none seem to work.

At 09:11 PM 2/16/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>The only issue I can think of right off hand is that you have to connect to
>the public IP address of the router.  For instance, your router has a
>public(Internet) address of 209.172.152.101 and your internal machine is
>192.168.0.50.  Then you would try to VNC to 209.172.152.101:5900 (or :5800
>from a browser).  And the router should be forwarding ports 5800 & 5900 to
>192.168.0.50.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Eric Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Firewall question..
>
>
>New subscriber here (thanks for the idea David!!).  VNC has worked well for
>me so far but for one issue.  I cannot get my Linksys router to forward
>ports properly through its firewall.  I am forwarding port 5800 and 5900 to
>the static internal IP of my machine, but no matter what I do I cannot get
>it to work from the outside.
>
>I have enabled Remote Administration of the router, so I can go in and
>manually put my machine in the DMZ from the outside world, and then access
>VNC just fine either with through the web server or the VNC
>client.  Obviously, this leaves me wide open to the rest of the world and I
>already had a problem getting hacked when I forgot and left my machine in
>the DMZ for a long period of time.  Came home that day to find Norton had
>stopped a virus (actually a trojan) from an unknown source.
>
>I should add that I am currently running a Windows ME machine as the
>server, and my workstation at work is running NT 4 SP5.
>
>TIA
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I want to extend VNC

2001-02-16 Thread xie bo

The plan is:
 1.add a sound track,so the client can hear remote's sound
 2.save the captured picture of remote computer and sound to a AVI file,just like 
www.techsmith.com 's Snag It or Camtasia.
Any suggestions are welcome!

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About VNC Server ActiveX Control

2001-02-16 Thread xie bo

Have someone converted VNC Server to a ActiveX Control(*.ocx)?//I know Thong Nguyen 
has convert VNC Client to a ActiveX Control(VNCX.ocx).
Any suggestions are welcome!

Xie Bo
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In http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/archives/1999-09/0032.html ,someone had writed 
the same idea.


Greg Breland ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:20:31 -0500 

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How hard would it be to write another control like this that implimented a 
server instead of a client? That way you could easily add a vnc server to 
your programs. This would rock IMPO. 


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:30 AM 
To: Carl Cook; Vnc-List; Nathan Keir 
Subject: VNCX - The VNC ActiveX control 



I've had some time to put the project into a working ActiveX Control - 
although, I haven't had enough time to work on the example of using the 
control from Visual Basic. So, the example code was written on the fly, is 
very ugly, and basically I didn't think about organising anything, just put 
it together well enough to demonstrate *some* of the features of VNCX. 



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Re: I want to extend VNC

2001-02-16 Thread Jonathan Morton

>The plan is:
> 1.add a sound track,so the client can hear remote's sound
> 2.save the captured picture of remote computer and sound to a AVI
>file,just like www.techsmith.com 's Snag It or Camtasia.
>Any suggestions are welcome!

Good luck.  However, make sure that any protocol extensions you consider
are compatible with existing clients & servers, and that they take into
consideration platforms other than your target(s) so that future efforts
may be able to work with your extensions.  Also, remember that not every
client or server has "unlimited" network bandwidth or CPU power, and your
protocol extension should at least recognise that such cases exist, even if
it cannot operate in these cases.

The current protocol specification is based on the PDF document found on
AT&T's website, with quite a few extensions floating around (mostly to do
with better graphics compression).

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RE: VNC on Windows2000 with two IP addresses

2001-02-16 Thread Scott C. Best

Ric:
Hello! Actually...this solution worries me:

> 1.  Go to "Network and Dialup Connections"
> 2.  Double-click on the network card that is connected to the Internet
> 3.  Hit the Properties button
> 4.  Hit the Sharing tab
> 5.  Hit the Settings button
> 6.  Hit the Services tab
> 7.  Hit the Add button
> 8.  Fill in:
>   Name of Service: "VNC"
>   Service Port Number: 5900
>   Name or Address of server...: 192.168.0.1
> 9.  Hit the OK button and close all the dialogs.

This may sound weird...but...despite the fact that
it works (hee), what I *think* this Win2k "sharing" thing
was meant to do is to provide external access to services 
running on *other* machines in your LAN. You're (mis)using 
it to connect to the internal interface of the firewall machine
itself.
What you may want to try instead is changing the 
firewall itself: simply open port 5900 on the "internet
side" of your Win2k box. Network-Properties-Protocols-
TCP-Properties-Advanced-Enable Security (phew).

This may be better for you, as you'll be able to
indicate the *source IP* from which you'd be willing to
accept VNC connections. As you have it now, anyone can
reach the VNC server on your firewall...and we know who
you are from the IP# in your email headers. :)

Just a thought.

-Scott

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Re: About VNC Server ActiveX Control

2001-02-16 Thread Jonathan Morton

>Have someone converted VNC Server to a ActiveX Control(*.ocx)?//I know
>Thong Nguyen has convert VNC Client to a ActiveX Control(VNCX.ocx).

What practical applications are there for such a thing?

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RE: Firewall question..

2001-02-16 Thread Scott C. Best

Eric:
Two quick questions for ya:

1. Have you ever gotten the LinkSys box to forward any ports?
   I mean, not just for VNC, for anything. Sometimes you have
   to specify *opening* the port, as well as specifiying that
   you want to *forward* it; two-steps.

2. Next time you've got the port-forwarding setup for your
   VNC box, try connecting to it with telnet. So, telnet to
   209.172.152.101:5900 and report how it fails. It if drops
   quickly, the firewall is likely still blocking the port.
   If it lingers...it may be that your LAN machine is having
   difficulty getting packets *out* of the firewall.

Good luck!

-Scott

PS: Alternative: get a firewall with a *lot* more support -- see
leaf.sourceforge.net. Great project. :)

> Thanks Lyle.  That is exactly how it works for me now.  With the DMZ host 
> turned on ALL ports automatically get forwarded to my private IP from the 
> router.  What I am trying to do is to just forward the ports needed for VNC 
> and turn off the DMZ feature leaving the rest of my ports secure.
> 
> I have tried every range of ports I can think of (and read about thus far) 
> and none seem to work.
> 
> At 09:11 PM 2/16/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >The only issue I can think of right off hand is that you have to connect to
> >the public IP address of the router.  For instance, your router has a
> >public(Internet) address of 209.172.152.101 and your internal machine is
> >192.168.0.50.  Then you would try to VNC to 209.172.152.101:5900 (or :5800
> >from a browser).  And the router should be forwarding ports 5800 & 5900 to
> >192.168.0.50.
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