RE: how to hide the VNC logo ?
Whilst everyone is getting tied up with pointing people at the FAQ is anyone noticing how many people are asking for this facility?? The FAQ says "We feel that there would be few legitimate uses of VNC where you would need to conceal its operation." - maybe this position is due for a rethink. I regularly need to "dip in" to people's desktops in a training environment, and the distraction of the icon changing colour is unwelcome. In fact the icon is unwelcome as it generates lots of curiosity. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Fulbright > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 9:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > > How is it possible to hide the VNC logo located on the > taskbar (windows 98), > > on the right and down, even of course when VNCSERVER is > enabled on the PC ? > > If the logo is hidden, so nobody knows that Vncserver is > working ...! > > PLEASE read the FAQ before posting to this list. > > Dan Fulbright > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > ** Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of one or both of those organisations. This e-mail should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed. Accordingly, we disclaim all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences of any person other than the intended recipients acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please accept our apologies and we simply request that you delete this document. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
quick and probably stupid question
vncserver running on intel based RH 7 box. can connect just fine via a vnc binary client, but cannot find a port in the 580x neighborhood open for the java browser client. I haven't done anything to block any ports as this is a development machine and I WANNT things to work. I can telnet to 590x just fine, but nothing at 580x. Any clues? thanx - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: quick and probably stupid question
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 07:29:50AM -0500, Chip Mefford wrote: > vncserver running on intel based RH 7 box. Did you run it as 'vncserver' or as 'Xvnc'? If 'Xvnc', did you use the -httpd option? Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: quick and probably stupid question
Hi Tim, I ran it as vncserver, I edited the script for 16 bit colour and 800x600 but thats the only change I made. I grepped vncserver for http and didn't find any entry. I checked Xvnc --help for a http option, didn't see one. I'll look some more. What would the httpd option be for the vncserver script? Tim Waugh wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 07:29:50AM -0500, Chip Mefford wrote: > > > vncserver running on intel based RH 7 box. > > Did you run it as 'vncserver' or as 'Xvnc'? If 'Xvnc', did you use > the -httpd option? > > Tim. > */ > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
It's designed to generate curiosity. It is wrong to spy on people, to watch their actions without their understanding and consent. Simon. - Original Message - From: "John Clegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:34 PM Subject: RE: how to hide the VNC logo ? > Whilst everyone is getting tied up with pointing people at the FAQ is anyone > noticing how many people are asking for this facility?? The FAQ says "We > feel that there would be few legitimate uses of VNC where you would need to > conceal its operation." - maybe this position is due for a rethink. I > regularly need to "dip in" to people's desktops in a training environment, > and the distraction of the icon changing colour is unwelcome. In fact the > icon is unwelcome as it generates lots of curiosity. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Fulbright > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 9:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > > > > > How is it possible to hide the VNC logo located on the > > taskbar (windows 98), > > > on the right and down, even of course when VNCSERVER is > > enabled on the PC ? > > > If the logo is hidden, so nobody knows that Vncserver is > > working ...! > > > > PLEASE read the FAQ before posting to this list. > > > > Dan Fulbright > > - > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > - > > > > > ** > Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not > represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare > Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the > views of one or both of those organisations. This e-mail should only be > read by those persons to whom it is addressed. Accordingly, we disclaim > all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for > the consequences of any person other than the intended recipients acting, > or refraining from acting, on such information. If you have received this > e-mail in error, please accept our apologies and we simply request that > you delete this document. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, > copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of > this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
I concurr with Simon. Simon Biber wrote: > > It's designed to generate curiosity. It is wrong to spy on people, to watch > their actions without their understanding and consent. > > Simon. > > - Original Message - > From: "John Clegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:34 PM > Subject: RE: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > Whilst everyone is getting tied up with pointing people at the FAQ is > anyone > > noticing how many people are asking for this facility?? The FAQ says "We > > feel that there would be few legitimate uses of VNC where you would need > to > > conceal its operation." - maybe this position is due for a rethink. I > > regularly need to "dip in" to people's desktops in a training environment, > > and the distraction of the icon changing colour is unwelcome. In fact the > > icon is unwelcome as it generates lots of curiosity - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
>-Message d'origine- >De: "Simon Biber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >A: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sujet: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? >Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:35:13 +1100 > >It's designed to generate curiosity. It is wrong to spy on people, to watch >their actions without their understanding and consent. >Simon. -- this action "to hide VNC logo ..." is completely necessary in a school where some pupils go to forbidden site. they are obliged to visit site only for practical studies with their classes or groups. Some other break the system during their session in front of the PC, it happened many times !!! Now it's enough , so the objective is not to spy but only have a look on those repeated problems,with the accord of the director of the school. thanks antoine Wachi - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
>Sujet: RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:55:55 -0600 > >Question 45 on the FAQ: >Q45 Can I get rid of the taskbar icon created by WinVNC? -- many thanks ... BUT the answer says : "However, there might be occasions where you would not want the user of the server machine to be able to adjust the WinVNC settings, password, etc, so versions later than 3.3.2R3 will include a 'restricted' mode where the icon is still visible ..." --- So my question : When the 3.3.2R3 VNC version will be available ? See you, Hi ! Antoine Wachi - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
Then try another program intended for such use: PC Spy: http://www.softdd.com/pcspy/index.htm Sky Tech: http://www.spytech-web.com Or any one of the many software products available out there to do silent monitoring. -- this action "to hide VNC logo ..." is completely necessary in a school where some pupils go to forbidden site. they are obliged to visit site only for practical studies with their classes or groups. Some other break the system during their session in front of the PC, it happened many times !!! Now it's enough , so the objective is not to spy but only have a look on those repeated problems,with the accord of the director of the school. thanks antoine Wachi - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
3.3.2r3 came out a long time ago. We are now on version 3.3.3r7, which has the features you describe. Hope this helps. Ian Cowley > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 28 December 2000 15:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > >Sujet: RE: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:55:55 -0600 > > > >Question 45 on the FAQ: > >Q45 Can I get rid of the taskbar icon created by WinVNC? > -- > many thanks ... BUT the answer says : > > "However, there might be occasions where you would not want > the user of the > server machine to be able to adjust the WinVNC settings, > password, etc, so > versions later than 3.3.2R3 will include a 'restricted' mode > where the icon is > still visible ..." > --- > So my question : > When the 3.3.2R3 VNC version will be available ? > See you, Hi ! > Antoine Wachi > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > ** THIS EMAIL MESSAGE AND INFORMATION IT CONTAINS MAY BE PRIVILEGED AND/OR CONFIDENTIAL, AND IS FOR THE USE OF THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. UNAUTHORISED USE, DISCLOSURE OR PRINTING OF THE CONTENTS IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF THIS EMAIL AND ARE NOT THE ADDRESSEE PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY. ALTHOUGH EVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE ACCURACY NEITHER THE NFU NOR THE AUTHOR CAN ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ERRORS AND OMISSIONS. (c) NFU COMPANY REGISTRATION NO. 245E ** - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: quick and probably stupid question
> vncserver running on intel based RH 7 box. > > can connect just fine via a vnc binary client, > but cannot find a port in the 580x neighborhood > open for the java browser client. > > I haven't done anything to block any ports > as this is a development machine and I WANNT > things to work. > > I can telnet to 590x just fine, but > nothing at 580x. Are you using TridiaVNC or AT&T VNC? If Tridia, then the java client support has been removed (for some reason). Try the AT&T release. Also, make sure you copy the class files, as directed in the README in the toplevel directory of the source code. Dan Fulbright - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
[Announcement] VNCDimension 0.7.0
I'd like to announce the availability of VNCDimension 0.7.0 for Apple's Mac OS X Public Beta. You can get it at http://www.mdimension.com/Community. Yes, there seems to be quite a few VNC clients for Mac OS X Public Beta now. There weren't when I started. :-) VNCDimension is different because it is written to Apple's Cocoa API's and supports the new NSDocument architecture for multiple simultaneous VNC sessions. Each session has its own thread(s). All standard encodings are currently supported. VNCDimension also uses very little CPU time for decent performance in comparison to other VNC clients for Mac OS X. Here are the release notes for 0.7.0 (changes from 0.5.3): * Implemented hextile encoding * Experimental support for full screen mode * Even more performance and responsiveness tuning * Does not send mouse movements while downloading frame buffer updates. This helps slow connections. I may give an option to turn this back on when I implement a preferences panel. * First attempt at reconnecting an aborted connection I'll be looking to release source code around the 0.9.0 timeframe. Currently, I'm experimenting with better multi-processor support and looking into adding Tight encoding. There are also a bunch of smaller things to tackle before it becomes 1.0 (localization, session preferences editing, etc.) Of course, we're all waiting for Apple to polish things up on their side. I'm also interested in pitching in and helping with a VNC server application for Mac OS X. For those interested, take a look at /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Headers/CGRemote Operation.h ..Bill Chin [EMAIL PROTECTED] M Dimension Technology - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: how to hide the VNC logo ?
You are right about one thing. People are curious about the icon. So save yourselves a lot of trouble and just explain to them what it is. In all of the different organizations I have worked in, I have yet to meet anyone who likes to be spied upon. Sure you can take away the icon, but I wouldn't want to be ya the day that someone discovers you are spying on them. However, if you explain to people that this is a tool that you use to assist them and that they will know when someone is peeking at their work, you may have a chance at acceptance. People I have dealt with in the past have accepted this situation reluctantly. What they would much rather have is something that would prompt them, actually getting their permission for you to look at their screen. As I see it, you have 3 choices: 1) Explain it to them. (Takes just a minute or two and people will be that much more knowledgable) 2) Recompile your own version of the program. 3) Use some other product. I support the display of the icon as a very minimum standard. Say, perhaps we could have the FAQ e-mailed to people automatically as soon as they join the vnc-list? Hmmm. What about including an embeded number in the FAQ that someone must enter in order to join the list. That way they would have to read the FAQ to find the hidden number. Argh, I give up... I appologize for this intrusion but I can't believe how often this subject has come up over and over again thought the years. Michael Milette >Whilst everyone is getting tied up with pointing people at the FAQ is anyone >noticing how many people are asking for this facility?? The FAQ says "We >feel that there would be few legitimate uses of VNC where you would need to >conceal its operation." - maybe this position is due for a rethink. I >regularly need to "dip in" to people's desktops in a training environment, >and the distraction of the icon changing colour is unwelcome. In fact the >icon is unwelcome as it generates lots of curiosity. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Fulbright >> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 9:15 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? >> >> >> > How is it possible to hide the VNC logo located on the >> taskbar (windows 98), >> > on the right and down, even of course when VNCSERVER is >> enabled on the PC ? >> > If the logo is hidden, so nobody knows that Vncserver is >> working ...! >> >> PLEASE read the FAQ before posting to this list. >> >> Dan Fulbright >> - >> To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >> - >> > > >** >Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not >represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare >Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the >views of one or both of those organisations. This e-mail should only be >read by those persons to whom it is addressed. Accordingly, we disclaim >all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for >the consequences of any person other than the intended recipients acting, >or refraining from acting, on such information. If you have received this >e-mail in error, please accept our apologies and we simply request that >you delete this document. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, >copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of >this e-mail is strictly prohibited. >- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >- - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
Aren't we forgetting that what people do at work is property of the business, from email to whatever they do at their desktop during business hours. Granted nobody likes to be spied on, its a decision that should be made by management/hr departments whether the employees know about it or not. > You are right about one thing. People are curious about the icon. So save > yourselves a lot of trouble and just explain to them what it is. In all of > the different organizations I have worked in, I have yet to meet anyone > who likes to be spied upon. Sure you can take away the icon, but I wouldn't > want to be ya the day that someone discovers you are spying on them. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: how to hide the VNC logo ?
My two bob's worth on the ICON is that I find it most useful, as I am frequently unsure which PC (out of 110) people are using. With a quick flick of their mouse the IP address is displayed, to give me rapid access to the correct PC. I have disabled all the other user options, so apart from closing down WinVnc all together, the users can't do anything else. Works for me Cheers John John Blyth Regional Manager Medical Imaging & Information Technology Gascoyne Health Service ? Phone: 041 9771178 ? Fax: (08) 99410556 ? E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Milette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 29 December 2000 05:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: how to hide the VNC logo ? You are right about one thing. People are curious about the icon. So save yourselves a lot of trouble and just explain to them what it is. In all of the different organizations I have worked in, I have yet to meet anyone who likes to be spied upon. Sure you can take away the icon, but I wouldn't want to be ya the day that someone discovers you are spying on them. - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > > Aren't we forgetting that what people do at work is property of the > business, from email to whatever they do at their desktop during business > hours. Granted nobody likes to be spied on, its a decision that should be > made by management/hr departments whether the employees know about it or > not. I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing acceptable, and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied upon. I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the AT&T developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of activity. (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.) -- Joe > > You are right about one thing. People are curious about the icon. So save > > yourselves a lot of trouble and just explain to them what it is. In all of > > the different organizations I have worked in, I have yet to meet anyone > > who likes to be spied upon. Sure you can take away the icon, but I > wouldn't > > want to be ya the day that someone discovers you are spying on them. > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - -- Joe Knapka - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check users email at the request of management? I would not like being spied on, but what you do at work is the property of the business and as you said if you don't like their policy just quit. Just having that policy alone usually keeps people on task knowing that someone could be watching what they are doing. > I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing > acceptable, > and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied > upon. > I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the > luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the > AT&T > developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of > activity. > It is political, but it shouldn't be. This isn't something that someone in the IS department should have to decide over, but management. > (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.) - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: how to hide the VNC logo ?
These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts have no place on this technically oriented list. If your question/post has nothing to do with the CURRENT FUNCTIONALITY of VNC, please refrain from posting. Thank You. -Original Message- From: David W. Chapman Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check users email at the request of management? I would not like being spied on, but what you do at work is the property of the business and as you said if you don't like their policy just quit. Just having that policy alone usually keeps people on task knowing that someone could be watching what they are doing. > I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing > acceptable, > and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied > upon. > I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the > luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the > AT&T > developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of > activity. > It is political, but it shouldn't be. This isn't something that someone in the IS department should have to decide over, but management. > (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.) - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > > Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check users > email Of course they are "allowed" to, but I certainly wouldn't work for a company that made it a policy to do so. I don't care what a company or individual does with VNC; I am simply expressing the opinion that it's evil to use it without the remote user's knowledge, and I can fully understand why the AT&T developers would not want to add functionality that makes it easy to use their software for nefarious purposes. Anyone who wants to disable the tray icon is free to do so by patching the code. -- Joe Knapka - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
"ethical" postings to list [was Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?]
The way I see it, this list is for anything concerning VNC, whether it be the ethical considerations faced by installing a program that lets you remotely access a computer, or the technical functionality of VNC. It is all to do with VNC and so to me seems perfectly relevant to this list. I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell people what to post to the list, I don't see anything saying "list admin" in your name, or "VNC technical supervisor". I haven't seen a single complaint from anybody of "authority" (by authority I mean a list admin or moderator) compalining about "These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts" that you only seem to think have no place on this list. - Original Message - From: "Michael Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: RE: how to hide the VNC logo ? > These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts have no place on this technically > oriented list. If your question/post has nothing to do with the CURRENT > FUNCTIONALITY of VNC, please refrain from posting. > > Thank You. > > -Original Message- > From: David W. Chapman Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check users > email at the request of management? I would not like being spied on, but > what you do at work is the property of the business and as you said if you > don't like their policy just quit. Just having that policy alone usually > keeps people on task knowing that someone could be watching what they are > doing. > > > I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing > > acceptable, > > and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied > > upon. > > I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the > > luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the > > AT&T > > developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of > > activity. > > > > It is political, but it shouldn't be. This isn't something that someone in > the IS department should have to decide over, but management. > > > (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.) > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
RE: "ethical" postings to list [was Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?]
Whoh, Hey. All I'm saying is that if people want post non-technical, general, discussion type items, then maybe the "list admin" or someone should start a separate list for such posts. IMHO, it seems there are two complete and separate types of issues. The two have distinctly different threads of interest and should be separate. The 'ethical considerations' of installing the type of software such as VNC are much more general (or specific) than that which, again in my humble opinion, belong in a list such as this. ...and that's all I have to say about that... -Original Message- From: Robert Mcleod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: "ethical" postings to list [was Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?] The way I see it, this list is for anything concerning VNC, whether it be the ethical considerations faced by installing a program that lets you remotely access a computer, or the technical functionality of VNC. It is all to do with VNC and so to me seems perfectly relevant to this list. I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell people what to post to the list, I don't see anything saying "list admin" in your name, or "VNC technical supervisor". I haven't seen a single complaint from anybody of "authority" (by authority I mean a list admin or moderator) compalining about "These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts" that you only seem to think have no place on this list. - Original Message - From: "Michael Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: RE: how to hide the VNC logo ? > These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts have no place on this technically > oriented list. If your question/post has nothing to do with the CURRENT > FUNCTIONALITY of VNC, please refrain from posting. > > Thank You. > > -Original Message- > From: David W. Chapman Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ? > > > Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check users > email at the request of management? I would not like being spied on, but > what you do at work is the property of the business and as you said if you > don't like their policy just quit. Just having that policy alone usually > keeps people on task knowing that someone could be watching what they are > doing. > > > I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing > > acceptable, > > and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied > > upon. > > I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the > > luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the > > AT&T > > developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of > > activity. > > > > It is political, but it shouldn't be. This isn't something that someone in > the IS department should have to decide over, but management. > > > (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.) > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - > - > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - - To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html -
