Re: how to audit chmod syscall system wide? a wired problem of home directory group write permission got set
On 02/01/18 21:21, Berend De Schouwer wrote: > On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 10:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 17:36 -0700, stan wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:06:38 + (UTC) >>> "mr.cheng" wrote: >>> I checked all bash_history and system logs, didn't see any explicit bash call of "chmod g+w ..." ; so I suspect some software is calling by chmod syscall, >> Is this a reply to a private message? I don't see the original on the >> list. > There's a few users on this list that continuously get dumped in > Gmail's spam folder. They seem to all be Yahoo users, that Google > claims "... has failed Yahoo's required tests for authentication" > without specifying if it's DKIM or SPF or something else. > > This includes mr.cheng and "tim ignored mailbox." You can fix this issue rather simply on your gmail side. Simply create a filter which "has the words" "list:"users@lists.fedoraproject.org" and then select "Never send it to spam". I happen to also add that the messages skip the inbox and get placed (labeled) as "Fedora". Fixing it on the receiving end is so much easier than trying to get all the senders to take action. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora27: ypbind intermittent startup
On 02/01/18 21:41, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:32:44 + > Terry Barnaby wrote: > >> Does the system " target Network is Online" get reached after DHCP >> configuration ? > Probably doesn't matter because systemd has no idea what "up" > means when it comes to networks :-(. > > ypbind is one of the services I always just start in rc.local > with a delay: > > /bin/bash -c 'sleep 5 ; systemctl restart ypbind' > /dev/null 2>&1 < > /dev/null & > > The only way I could get it to reliably start on every boot. > > Of course, you can't just put that in rc.local any longer because > something changed recently that makes systemd go funny in the head > with stuff started in rc.local, so this is really in the-real-rc.local > and rc.local looks like: > > /usr/bin/at -M now <<'HERE' > /dev/null 2>&1 > /etc/rc.d/the-real-rc.local > HERE > I've not tried this since I don't have a need for ypbind. One may also consider copying /lib/systemd/system/ypbind.service to /etc/systemd/system and then inserting the line, ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 5 From the systemd documentation ExecStart= commands are only run after all ExecStartPre= commands that were not prefixed with a "-" exit successfully. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora27: ypbind intermittent startup
On 02/02/18 15:42, Terry Barnaby wrote: > On 02/02/18 00:41, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> I've not tried this since I don't have a need for ypbind. >> >> One may also consider copying /lib/systemd/system/ypbind.service to >> /etc/systemd/system and then inserting the line, >> >> ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 5 >> >> From the systemd documentation >> >> ExecStart= commands are only run after all ExecStartPre= commands that were >> not >> prefixed with a "-" exit successfully. >> > Thanks I will try this out, but it would be nice to get it fixed properly in > Fedora27. > > Could it be due to "target Network is Online" being triggered by IPv6 being > configured first ? I don't use IPv6, but I guess the system could be setting > this > up somehow by default. > I will admit to having stayed away from the "Network-Online" discussions as they often devolve into rants against systemd. But, another thing you can try is to modify the NetworkManager-wait-online.service by making a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system and changing the line, ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online -s -q --timeout=30 to ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online q --timeout=30 Check out the man page for nm-online to see how it operates with and without -s. I'm speculating that with the -s the dhcp processes may not be fully completed when the ypbind process is started. You many want to check out the archives of this list for past "discussions" along similar lines. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora27: ypbind intermittent startup
On 02/02/18 16:49, Ed Greshko wrote: > But, another thing you can try is to modify the > NetworkManager-wait-online.service by > making a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system and changing the line, Oh, just in case you're not familiar, when you make your own copy of the service you would have to do systemctl -f enable NetworkManager-wait-online to rewrite the symbolic link to point to the "custom" configuration. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Cannot set the default network route
On 02/02/18 21:42, Terry Barnaby wrote: > A strange one this. I was trying to change the default route of a machine for > testing a different gateway. > > I ran: > > route del default gw > > route add default gw > > However the second command did not add the route and I could not add the old > default route back. There were no errors on stdout or in /var/log/messages. > > Now I found that if there is already a default route you can add another one, > so > could do a: > > route add default gw > > route del default gw > > And these worked fine. It seems you cannot set a default route if there isn't > one set. > > Any ideas ? If you use the route command to add a route you must also specify the netmask. So, you'll need to use route add default netmask x.x.x.x gw Look at the man page for route. netmask NM when adding a network route, the netmask to be used. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Cannot set the default network route
On 02/03/18 00:29, Terry Barnaby wrote: > I tied using "ip route" it had the same effect. [root@f27k ~]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 enp0s3 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 enp0s3 [root@f27k ~]# route del default gw 192.168.1.1 [root@f27k ~]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 enp0s3 [root@f27k ~]# route add default netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 [root@f27k ~]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 enp0s3 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 enp0s3 > > On 02/02/18 14:21, Bill Shirley wrote: >> Use 'ip' and add the dev parameter: >> ip route add default 173.xxx.yyy.zzz dev ccast >> >> man route: >> NOTE >> This program is obsolete. For replacement check ip route. >> >> Bill >> >> On 2/2/2018 8:42 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: >>> A strange one this. I was trying to change the default route of a machine >>> for >>> testing a different gateway. >>> >>> I ran: >>> >>> route del default gw >>> >>> route add default gw >>> >>> However the second command did not add the route and I could not add the old >>> default route back. There were no errors on stdout or in /var/log/messages. >>> >>> Now I found that if there is already a default route you can add another >>> one, so >>> could do a: >>> >>> route add default gw >>> >>> route del default gw >>> >>> And these worked fine. It seems you cannot set a default route if there >>> isn't one >>> set. >>> >>> Any ideas ? >>> >>> ___ >>> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vmware not working under vmware_t
On 02/03/18 04:25, James Maugans wrote: > I will greatly appreciatte any help or advice in this matter. When it comes to selinux issues I've found the seli...@lists.fedoraproject.org much more helpful than the users list. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to digitize a sizable CD collection using fedora?
On 02/03/18 06:29, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > one of my new year's resolutions was to digitize several hundred > music CDs in preparation for figuring out what system to use in the > domicile to play them, but regardless of how i decide to eventually > play these CDs, i'm looking for recommendations for how to rip them to > hard drive before i decide how i will end up using them. > > given the cheapness of hard drives (and that i have a QNAP NAS > anyway), i don't really care about disk usage, so i figured on ripping > all of those CDs using (lossless) FLAC format, and i can decide down > the road whether to convert them to a different format to save on > space. > > in short, any recommendations on simply ripping all these CDs to > hard drive, while having no idea what i will eventually use to play > them? What is your desktop? I converted a few hundred audio CDs years ago and with my KDE desktop I simply used k3b. You may want to explore what audio format you'd like to store them as. mp3, or an open format such as Vorbis audio. Of course you can always google "rip audio cd linux" and find plenty of suggestions, -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora27: ypbind intermittent startup
On 02/02/18 15:51, Terry Barnaby wrote: > On 02/02/18 07:42, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> On 02/02/18 00:41, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> >>> I've not tried this since I don't have a need for ypbind. >>> >>> One may also consider copying /lib/systemd/system/ypbind.service to >>> /etc/systemd/system and then inserting the line, >>> >>> ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 5 >>> >>> From the systemd documentation >>> >>> ExecStart= commands are only run after all ExecStartPre= commands that were >>> not >>> prefixed with a "-" exit successfully. >>> >> Thanks I will try this out, but it would be nice to get it fixed properly in >> Fedora27. >> So, did you try it out? FWIW, since this appears to be mostly a "timing" issue I modified the name service in this way. Before the the modification [egreshko@f27k ~]$ systemd-analyze blame | grep named 904ms named-chroot.service 682ms named-chroot-setup.service 322ms named-setup-rndc.service after adding ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 30 (I wanted to see if any other processes would be affected) [egreshko@f27k ~]$ systemd-analyze blame | grep nam 30.377s named-chroot.service 613ms named-chroot-setup.service 189ms named-setup-rndc.service Other than the delay in starting named, the system booted in its usual 12 seconds. So, the workaround should be successful. And, I would also suggest you write a bugzilla and *maybe* things surrounding "wait-online" will improve. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to digitize a sizable CD collection using fedora?
On 02/04/18 06:03, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018, Jon LaBadie wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 05:29:40PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> one of my new year's resolutions was to digitize several hundred >>> music CDs in preparation for figuring out what system to use in the >>> domicile to play them, but regardless of how i decide to eventually >>> play these CDs, i'm looking for recommendations for how to rip them to >>> hard drive before i decide how i will end up using them. >>> >>> given the cheapness of hard drives (and that i have a QNAP NAS >>> anyway), i don't really care about disk usage, so i figured on ripping >>> all of those CDs using (lossless) FLAC format, and i can decide down >>> the road whether to convert them to a different format to save on >>> space. >>> >>> in short, any recommendations on simply ripping all these CDs to >>> hard drive, while having no idea what i will eventually use to play >>> them? >> I only had about 60 CDs to rip, but like you was uncertain about >> format. >> >> I used "abcde" which let me save .wav, .flac, .oog, and .mp3 in 1 >> run. > for now, i was thinking of ripping just to .flac since that's > lossless and i can always decide later what further format to rip to > in order to save space. does that make sense? i just want to avoid > having to go back and rip everything all over again. > What makes sense to me is to first select a few individual tracks with different types of music. For example, if you have classical, pick a few with quiet movements with only strings, those with lots of highs, etc. Then record and listen to all of those in various formats. Even better if you have have someone play them for you in different formats to see if you can tell the difference. I've found that folks have a tendency to overvalue lossless formats but in fact their ears aren't up to the task. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to digitize a sizable CD collection using fedora?
On 02/04/18 08:21, Ed Greshko wrote: > I've found that folks have a tendency to overvalue lossless formats but in > fact their > ears aren't up to the task. I also should have included that their audio equipment isn't "good" enough to make the difference noticeable. Kind of like some folks insisting on the highest pixel density for their camera equipment and then only viewing on a standard monitor in relatively small format. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: What is this gibberish?
On 02/04/18 09:57, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 02/02/2018 04:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> Just did a dnf update, this comes out: >>> >>> ... >>>Running scriptlet: firefox-58.0.1-1.fc27.x86_64 >>> 18/18 >>>Running scriptlet: firefox-58.0-4.fc27.x86_64 >>> 18/18 >>> Running as unit: run-r1880116b569f49288e6d0da0c5832367.service >>> Running as unit: run-r329e01978cfe43258a05456898834edb.service >>>Verifying: GraphicsMagick-1.3.28-1.fc27.x86_64 >>> 1/18 >>>Verifying: GraphicsMagick-c++-1.3.28-1.fc27.x86_64 >>> 2/18 >>> ... >>> >>> Running as unit? Huh? >> rpm is now running some tasks asynchronously using temporary systemd units. >> I don't know which tasks are being done this way, but I expect at least the >> mandb update is. If you were quick enough, you should have been able to get >> more info by running "systemctl status >> run-r1880116b569f49288e6d0da0c5832367.service". > The unit tasks are logged, so you can see them with > journalctl or in syslog. Snip > Just knowing what it is is enough for me, I Snip > Plus, the > output we get now is effectively worthless. :) > > I submitted a patch to quiet this output: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/man-db/pull-request/5 > > If that's accepted then we'll eventually stop seeing this > anytime an rpm installs or removes man pages. > Thanks for doing the research. But please be aware that you're subverting the plot by a secret society to produce copious indecipherable output so users will switch over to GUIs and have things hidden from view. :-) :-) -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to digitize a sizable CD collection using fedora?
On 02/04/18 11:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 02/03/2018 04:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I've found that folks have a tendency to overvalue lossless formats but in >> fact their >> ears aren't up to the task. > > I definitely do notice mp3 artifacts sometimes. However, the reason I've > switched > to flac is just to have a true archive of the original cd. It's a straight > copy > without even volume normalization. I then convert that to a high-quality ogg > file > with normalization. In the future, if I need a different format, different > volume > adjustment, or even recreate the original cd, I don't have to use the > compressed > version, I can go back to the original copy. > Of course everyone's ability to recognize "artifacts" is going to vary depending on their physical condition as well as the equipment which they listen on. What someone chooses to do with regards to transferring from CD to HD will depend on how they intend to play, how much space they want to devote, and how much time they expect to devote to doing the work. I happen to be the type of person that is more interested in just listening to the music than thinking I may want to do more conversions later. That is why I spent the time when I did to find what works best for "me". As a matter of fact, in the 3 years since I transferred my collection from CD to ogg files I've never said to myself "I wish I had done things differently". And I've never been tempted to recreate the original CD. :-) Only recently did I replace my CD/DVD drive which had been broken for about 2 years. Most of my listening is done via VLC on one of my Android devices with my Bose headphones. Since VLC can play flac, mp3, ogg, as well as wav I've never been constrained by the format others have sent to me. Kind of why I've stayed away from Apple products. I've wanted to share music and videos with a few Apple Fan Friends and grumbled when I had to convert for them. Got close to wishing I would have spent a few extra $ on a NAS that did real-time conversions. :-) -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to digitize a sizable CD collection using fedora?
On 02/04/18 22:45, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i just did a quick test with abcde, ripping a CD to flac both with > and without the "-1" option (diff being ripping to a single FLAC file > versus individual FLAC files). the difference in final, total size is > negligible, both directories around 267M. > > is there any benefit to one strategy or the other? i assume that i > can rip a CD to a single FLAC file and, subsequently, break it into > pieces later when i decide how i want to organize CDs and individual > songs. I'd go with one file per track as opposed to one file per CD. The breaking into pieces later on seems like more work. Besides, on almost any CD there will be one or two tracks that aren't of interest even if the artist is a favorite. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Internet camera connection -
On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family > iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in > order to > view them while away during the day. The cameras would connect to my LAN and > via my > router to the Viasat modem. I have always tried to avoid such connections to > my > system and doing this is worrisome. > > Thoughts and advice appreciated, I suppose the question would be. You bought the gear from Armcrest? What specifically are you worried about? And, if you bought your gear from Armcrest wouldn't they be the ones to answer your concerns? Nothing you've said would seem to involve Fedora. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Internet camera connection -
On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > Thoughts and advice appreciated, Oh, and aren't you using a satellite internet connection? In the past you've indicated if you exceed your data quota it is expensive. Are you concerned about the uploads of video may impact your wallet? :-) -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/07/18 13:27, Dave Close wrote: > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" First, check the file /home/dave/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log for the complete Xorg log. Looking for EE lines On all of my systems that file doesn't exist since everything is determined by the kernel. That line doesn't even appear in my Xorg.0.log. So, maybe try starting without that file in place. What does it contain? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/07/18 18:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 11:24 +0530, Prasad K wrote: >>>startkde: Shutting down... >>>kdeinit5_wrapper: Warning: connect(/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0) failed: : >>> No such file or directory >>>Error: Can not contact kdeinit5! >>>xprop: unable to open display ':0' >>>xprop: unable to open display ':0' >>>startkde: Done. >> I'm guessing some dependent systemd service did not start causing the >> KDE startup issue. Instead of startx, install a login manager like KDM >> or SLIM and enable the system to launch GUI at boot and then reboot the >> system and see if the issue gets resolved. > The recommended login manager for KDE is SDDM. KDM also works but is > older. Right. Yet, if it is an X-server problem neither will work. :-) > > You might want to post on the Fedora KDE list for this kind of problem. > > See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/kde.lists.fedoraproject.org/ -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Internet camera connection -
On 02/07/18 18:31, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 02/06/18 21:54, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> I bought two ptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family >>> iPhones and of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in >>> order to >>> view them while away during the day. The cameras would connect to my LAN >>> and via my >>> router to the Viasat modem. I have always tried to avoid such connections >>> to my >>> system and doing this is worrisome. >>> >>> Thoughts and advice appreciated, >> >> I suppose the question would be. You bought the gear from Armcrest? >> What >> specifically are you worried about? And, if you bought your gear from >> Armcrest >> wouldn't they be the ones to answer your concerns? Nothing you've said >> would seem to >> involve Fedora. >> >> Oh, and aren't you using a satellite internet connection? In the past >> you've >> indicated if you exceed your data quota it is expensive. Are you concerned >> about the >> uploads of video may impact your wallet? :-) > + > Yes, they discourage excessive usage with reduced speed and additional cost. > I am > assuming usage will only occur when the link is in use as she views an image. > I > usually simply need to view the camera video via VLC involving no external > systems > and the router log reports small usage for the cameras. I guess I'm not clear on how things are supposed to work. It sounded to me as if the camera was uploading videos into their cloud and if someone wanted to view it they would access the cloud and not the camera directly. > > The system is Fedora 27, usually updated each day, and I depend on firewalld, > selinux, and the dd-wrt router firewall to provide security which seems to me > to > make it a Fedora related question. I apologize if that is too broad an > interpretation. Right, your system is F27 but I didn't see where your system was interacting with the camera. And, if things worked as I thought they would in that videos are getting uploaded to the cloud and someone external to your LAN was also just connecting to the cloud then there would seem little chance of a problem. The problem could be if one accessed the camera itself from outside of your LAN. It just seemed to me that wasn't going to be the case. > > I know that there are a number of those systems for remote viewing with > "internet > cameras" being offered and typically the information provided to the user is > favorable. I guess what I am looking for is assurance that I am not inviting > unwanted access to my system by using their service. I'm not concerned about > others > looking at the video, I just don't want vandals getting into my system and > I'm not > sure if I need to take additional measures to prevent that ... > I think even in the case where a camera is made available to control from outside of your network the only compromised component would be the camera and the microphone if it has one. So, potentially, someone could spy on you. I've not heard of an attack where someone gains control of an IP camera and then launches an attack on other devices like your F27 system. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Internet camera connection -
On 02/08/18 04:59, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 7 February 2018, Ed Greshko sent: >> I guess I'm not clear on how things are supposed to work. It sounded >> to me as if the camera was uploading videos into their cloud and if >> someone wanted to view it they would access the cloud and not the >> camera directly. > Some cameras merely use a central server as a way of finding your > camera by a name (ala dynamic DNS, mine initially lets you find it by > serial number, if I recall correctly) and for traversing NAT. Sure. But have a look at https://amcrest.com/cloud. And then check out the pricing and descriptions. It seems to me you can have your camera streaming to their cloud and recording as well as playing back live. Also, seems you can set triggers to record on motion only. Or, schedule when the recording happens. With more than one camera this seems to provide a central place to view all cameras as opposed to connecting to a camera individually. And, of course, it isn't free. > > One option to using these kind of cameras more safely, might be if your > router has a demilitarised zone (DMZ). The router will forward > specific traffic to it, and not allow it (your camera) to interact with > your LAN. This does require that your cameras are connected directly > to the router, not sharing a switch with your LAN. I don't think this is the type of method employed in the "cloud" scenario. The other option is to buy their recorder that allows you to record content locally and allow access to that device through your FW in a DMZ. I think it is important to understand what the products and services of the company and may even the model camera Bob as bought. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Internet camera connection -
On 02/08/18 04:59, Tim wrote: > Some cameras merely use a central server as a way of finding your > camera by a name (ala dynamic DNS, mine initially lets you find it by > serial number, if I recall correctly) and for traversing NAT. Come to think of it, you are probably totally right on this when it comes to live viewing. I happen to have a "slingbox" in AZ at a friend's place. It periodically sends its "location" to a central server and the app on either the browse, android, or ios device uses that to directly contact the slingbox. (I've not used the slingbox in a while so forgot about how it works). Unless it is possible to inject malware into the device I can't see it mounting an attack on other devices on the LAN. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/08/18 13:40, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" >> First, check the file /home/dave/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log for >> the complete Xorg log. Looking for EE lines > I found only two such lines, each present only in one of eight logs. > > (1) intel(0): Failed to submit rendering commands (Invalid argument), > disabling acceleration. > > (2) open /dev/fb0: Permission denied > > For (2), I tried chmod 666 on the device but that didn't help, except > that the EE line is no longer present. For (1), if acceleration were > the only problem, I think I'd see a screen. I'm not very familiar with the intel driver. It may not even use /dev/fb0. > >> On all of my systems that file doesn't exist since everything >> is determined by the kernel. That line doesn't even appear in my >> Xorg.0.log. So, maybe try starting without that file in place. What >> does it contain? > I moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d to a different > directory and tried again. No change. The Xorg log file is basically > the same as before, no EE lines. > > The xorg.conf file looks about the way I would expect. Frankly, it > looks pretty vanilla. The xorg.conf.d directory contains only a > 00-keyboard.conf file. Could you upload /home/dave/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log for others to look at? The one on my test system is 402 lines long so yours may be equally long. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/08/18 19:30, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 21:46 -0800, Dave Close wrote: >> "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: >> >>> You might want to post on the Fedora KDE list for this kind >>> of problem. >> I may try that. But the XIO errors and the failure to open the >> display made me think this might be a better place. > I think you said that Gnome does start but KDE doesn't, so it's likely > that something in the KDE config is causing the problem. > Well, unless GNOME is using Wayland? But, one should try creating another user and then try starting KDE on that new pristine account. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/08/18 20:21, François Patte wrote: > I have problem with lightdm greeter: one user cannnot log-in: I have > this message in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: > > Authenticate result for user cath : User not known to the underlying > authentication module > > What does it mean and how to recover? First thing to check. Does user cath have an entry in the /etc/shadow file? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/08/18 23:53, François Patte wrote: > Le 08/02/2018 à 14:39, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/08/18 20:21, François Patte wrote: >>> I have problem with lightdm greeter: one user cannnot log-in: I have >>> this message in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: >>> >>> Authenticate result for user cath : User not known to the underlying >>> authentication module >>> >>> What does it mean and how to recover? >> >> First thing to check. Does user cath have an entry in the /etc/shadow file? > Certainly! She can login through ssh. But is the user logging it via ssh using keys or a password? Have you, as root, tried resetting the password? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/08/18 23:57, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 02/08/18 19:30, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> I think you said that Gnome does start but KDE doesn't, so it's likely >>> that something in the KDE config is causing the problem. >> Well, unless GNOME is using Wayland? > The way I read the release notes, it is. Though there apparently is a > way to override and force it back to X. I haven't tried, mostly because > I really don't like Gnome so I avoid it. > >> But, one should try creating another user and then try starting >> KDE on that new pristine account. > I've done that without any change. Hummm Very odd Looking at your Xorg.0.log I see this at the end. [ 221.964] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch [ 222.058] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:65 [ 222.058] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:69 [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:64 [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 226:0 [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:66 [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:67 [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:68 You should check on your working system what you get. I don't have any of those types of pause messages. These are the systemd-logind lines in my file on a VM. [egreshko@f27k xorg]$ grep systemd-logi Xorg.0.log [85.105] (II) systemd-logind: took control of session /org/freedesktop/login1/session/_31 [85.111] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card0 226:0 fd 11 paused 0 [85.644] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event0 13:64 fd 19 paused 0 [85.650] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event1 13:65 fd 22 paused 0 [85.651] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event5 13:69 fd 23 paused 0 [85.658] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event6 13:70 fd 24 paused 0 [85.713] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event4 13:68 fd 25 paused 0 [85.723] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event2 13:66 fd 26 paused 0 [85.729] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/input/event3 13:67 fd 27 paused 0 [ 4965.630] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:67 [ 4965.936] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:66 [ 4965.940] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:68 [ 4966.008] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:70 [ 4966.012] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:69 [ 4966.015] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:65 [ 4966.022] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:64 I suppose you could try with selinux disabled as this appears to be a system-wide issue as opposed to a use configuration issue. I've upgraded several systems without issue. The HW in my case is all nVidia. Probably should ask as well on the KDE list. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/09/18 12:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm pretty sure you're just missing some piece because of how you're starting > it. > Gnome and KDE are really not designed to be started this way. FWIW, KDE starts just fine for me on several F27 systems using "startx". -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/09/18 13:26, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Looking at your Xorg.0.log I see this at the end. >> >> [ 221.964] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch >> [ 222.058] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:65 >> [ 222.058] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:69 >> [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:64 >> [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 226:0 >> [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:66 >> [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:67 >> [ 222.059] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:68 >> >> You should check on your working system what you get. I don't >> have any of those types of pause messages. >> >> I suppose you could try with selinux disabled as this appears to >> be a system-wide issue as opposed to a use configuration issue. > SElinux is disabled. > > On the working system, the above messages are followed by > > [ 72483.987] (II) AIGLX: Resuming AIGLX clients after VT switch > > I'm not switching consoles. I haven't yet reached the opportunity > to do so when the system hangs and the black screen appears. After > that, yes, I can and do switch to a text console so I can kill the > hung KDE session. > > Searching for references to that AIGLX message, I find several > reports, some going back a few years. The solutions are things like > installing a different GUI so they aren't very helpful. > > But it certainly does look like the systemd-logind pause is stuck > and could be the cause of my problem. > > Have I mentioned that I installed TigerVNC on the system, then > connected from a different one? In that situation, KDE starts fine. > The problem is only on the main screen. Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with external monitor? Or something else? If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/09/18 15:33, François Patte wrote: > Le 08/02/2018 à 22:45, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/08/18 23:53, François Patte wrote: >>> Le 08/02/2018 à 14:39, Ed Greshko a écrit : >>>> On 02/08/18 20:21, François Patte wrote: >>>>> I have problem with lightdm greeter: one user cannnot log-in: I have >>>>> this message in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: >>>>> >>>>> Authenticate result for user cath : User not known to the underlying >>>>> authentication module >>>>> >>>>> What does it mean and how to recover? >>>> First thing to check. Does user cath have an entry in the /etc/shadow >>>> file? >>> Certainly! She can login through ssh. >> But is the user logging it via ssh using keys or a password? > password > >> Have you, as root, tried resetting the password? > Yes I did > OK How about you take note of the numeric UID and GID and then delete the user without deleting their home directory. Then recreate the user with the same numeric UID and GID but pointing to a new home directory. Then test. If the test is successful then change the password file to point to the original home directory. Oh, before that, what is the numeric UID and GID of the user? If it is less than 1000 it may cause issues. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote: > Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is > responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath : > User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this > module and how to inform it that a new user was added? Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since I only know what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is causing the problem. At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in under lightdm or finding out why they have been unable to? > > >> Oh, before that, what is the numeric UID and GID of the user? If it is less >> than >> 1000 it may cause issues. >> 3000 OK, so that isn't the issue. So, have you attempted what I have proposed? Sometimes getting something to work is more important than finding out why something doesn't work. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Epson XP-860: available printer driver won't print in duplex
On 02/09/18 23:09, Temlakos wrote: > On 01/30/2018 06:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/30/18 19:13, Temlakos wrote: >>> On 01/29/2018 10:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> On 01/30/18 11:27, Temlakos wrote: >>>>> Recently I bought an Epson XP-860, to replace the XP-810 that finally >>>>> quit on me >>>>> after many long years of service. >>>>> >>>>> But when I went to install a printer driver, I found that duplex printing >>>>> is >>>>> simply >>>>> not available. >>>>> >>>>> It might or might not be significant that the recommended printer drivers >>>>> are >>>>> Epson >>>>> XP-820 CUPS/Gutenprint drivers, regular and simplified. >>>>> >>>>> I tried installing the Epson Printer Utility from the Epson site. But >>>>> that doesn't >>>>> seem to do anything to make full duplex available. >>>> You installed epson-inkjet-printer-escpr? >>>> >>> No, that I did not. Should I? What configuration options should I specify? >>> >>> >> Yes, I believe you should. And when you configure the driver you should >> specify the >> ppd file Epson-XP-860_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd.gz. >> > > And where is that file available? I have searched high and low using what I > think > is a reputable and powerful search engine, under every kind of phrase. All I > get is > a link to an rpm file I already have, and have already installed. I looked > specifically for the link to download the ppd file you named, and have not > found > it. Anywhere. Look in /usr/share/ppd/Epson/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/10/18 13:55, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with >> external monitor? Or something else? > It's a desktop with a single monitor. > >> If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't >> hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested. > Using kdm, I get exactly the same result. Sorry, would you clarify? You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end up with a black screen with a cursor you can move around? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile
On 02/10/18 06:12, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html. You should > open > Firefox using the old profile. Go to the bookmarks window and use the > "export to > html" option. Then in the new profile, you go to the bookmarks window and > use the > "import from html" option. Works fine for me. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/10/18 14:25, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>>> Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with >>>> external monitor? Or something else? >>> It's a desktop with a single monitor. >>> >>>> If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't >>>> hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested. >>> Using kdm, I get exactly the same result. >> Sorry, would you clarify? >> >> You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end >> up with a black screen with a cursor you can move around? > Yes. Exactly. OK then at that point the X-server is functioning normally. Would it be possible to do the following? 1. Reboot the system to get to the login screen. 2. From a second system, ssh into the failing system, become root, and "tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see what was last entered. 3. Login from the GUI on failing system and then check the tail to see if the "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" appears at that point. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/10/18 16:12, François Patte wrote: > Le 09/02/2018 à 18:46, Rick Stevens a écrit : >> On 02/09/2018 08:05 AM, François Patte wrote: >>> Le 09/02/2018 à 15:33, Ed Greshko a écrit : >>>> On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote: >>>>> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is >>>>> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath : >>>>> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this >>>>> module and how to inform it that a new user was added? >>>> Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since I >>>> only know >>>> what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is >>>> causing the >>>> problem. >>> Trying your trick gives the same result: once the password has been >>> given, lightdm behaves like if it was a wrong password and user can't log! >>> >>>> At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in under >>>> lightdm or >>>> finding out why they have been unable to? >>> I am interested in both, it is quite boring that something has been done >>> somewhere and messages in log files are not enough explicit to solve the >>> problem This tends to make the system more secretive. >>> >>> I googled too, and find some answer related to pam, to ldap Nothing >>> about lightdm! >> Please check the system logs. It may be an issue with libcrypt (e.g. the >> version desired isn't there). I've had that issue with a laptop before >> where the PAM system wanted libcrypto.so.6 (which was what was >> originally installed way back when) but the current version was >> libcrypto.so.10. > In that case wouldn't be impossible to login for all users? > > Would you consider to try another DM? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user
On 02/10/18 16:42, François Patte wrote: > Le 10/02/2018 à 09:32, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/10/18 16:12, François Patte wrote: >>> Le 09/02/2018 à 18:46, Rick Stevens a écrit : >>>> On 02/09/2018 08:05 AM, François Patte wrote: >>>>> Le 09/02/2018 à 15:33, Ed Greshko a écrit : >>>>>> On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote: >>>>>>> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is >>>>>>> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath : >>>>>>> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this >>>>>>> module and how to inform it that a new user was added? >>>>>> Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since >>>>>> I only know >>>>>> what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is >>>>>> causing the >>>>>> problem. >>>>> Trying your trick gives the same result: once the password has been >>>>> given, lightdm behaves like if it was a wrong password and user can't log! >>>>> >>>>>> At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in >>>>>> under lightdm or >>>>>> finding out why they have been unable to? >>>>> I am interested in both, it is quite boring that something has been done >>>>> somewhere and messages in log files are not enough explicit to solve the >>>>> problem This tends to make the system more secretive. >>>>> >>>>> I googled too, and find some answer related to pam, to ldap Nothing >>>>> about lightdm! >>>> Please check the system logs. It may be an issue with libcrypt (e.g. the >>>> version desired isn't there). I've had that issue with a laptop before >>>> where the PAM system wanted libcrypto.so.6 (which was what was >>>> originally installed way back when) but the current version was >>>> libcrypto.so.10. >>> In that case wouldn't be impossible to login for all users? >>> >>> >> Would you consider to try another DM? > DM? > light(dm) dm=Display Manager You could try sddm, kdm, or gdm? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot upgrade libdvdcss after a recent upgrade push
On 02/10/18 22:21, Temlakos wrote: > > Everyone: > > This morning I received a notice that a new version of libdvdcss was > available. > > But when I tried to upgrade it, the upgrade choked on a problem with the GPG > key. > Note the repository is "livna". This is not a repository for which the Fedora Community has responsibility. So, contact the "livna" folks. > > Here is the output of "sudo dnf upgrade libdvdcss," redacted to remove > references > to my username: > >> Last metadata expiration check: 2:03:45 ago on Sat 10 Feb 2018 06:32:25 AM >> EST. >> Dependencies resolved. >> = >> Package >> Arch >> Version >> Repository Size >> = >> Upgrading: >> libdvdcss >> x86_64 >> 1.4.1-1.fc27.remi >> livna 71 k >> >> Transaction Summary >> = >> Upgrade 1 Package >> >> Total size: 71 k >> Is this ok [y/N]: y >> Downloading Packages: >> [SKIPPED] libdvdcss-1.4.1-1.fc27.remi.x86_64.rpm: Already >> downloaded >> >> >> >> warning: >> /var/cache/dnf/livna-cec64278843bd06c/packages/libdvdcss-1.4.1-1.fc27.remi.x86_64.rpm: >> Header V4 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 0364b949: NOKEY >> Importing GPG key 0xA109B1EC: >> Userid : "Livna.org rpms " >> Fingerprint: 037B 5D9B E1B6 B673 2A23 13B5 7129 5441 A109 B1EC >> From : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna >> Is this ok [y/N]: y >> Key imported successfully >> Import of key(s) didn't help, wrong key(s)? >> Public key for libdvdcss-1.4.1-1.fc27.remi.x86_64.rpm is not installed. >> Failing >> package is: libdvdcss-1.4.1-1.fc27.remi.x86_64 >> GPG Keys are configured as: file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna >> The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful >> transaction. >> You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'. >> Error: GPG check FAILED >> [username@hostname ~]$ > > All right, so it's the wrong key. Now how and where do I get the /right/ key? > > Temlakos > > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/11/18 02:42, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >>>> You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end >>>> up with a black screen with a cursor you can move around? >>> Yes. Exactly. >> OK then at that point the X-server is functioning normally. Would >> it be possible to do the following? >> >> 1. Reboot the system to get to the login screen. >> >> 2. From a second system, ssh into the failing system, become root, >> and "tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see what was last entered. >> >> 3. Login from the GUI on failing system and then check the tail to >> see if the "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" appears >> at that point. > I did as described. In this case, the default target was graphical. > The last thing in Xorg.0.log are messages about the keyboard hotkeys. > After I entered my password, the KDE splash screen appeared with a > working cursor. But instead of going to a black screen, it stayed on > the splash screen. The Xorg.0.log did not change until I switched to > VT2, then it showed both AIGLX suppended and resuming when I switched > back to the hung VT1. OK. So, those lines are pretty much meaningless for the problem. Can you run "dnf distro-sync" just to make sure all packages are at the most current level? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/11/18 03:56, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Can you run "dnf distro-sync" just to make sure all packages are >> at the most current level? > Dependencies resolved. > Nothing to do. OK If you ssh into the failing system and run "top" does anything seem odd? A process stuck at the top or hogging CPU? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/11/18 04:21, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> If you ssh into the failing system and run "top" does anything >> seem odd? A process stuck at the top or hogging CPU? > 99.7% idle. Occasionally, plasmashell or vncserver will show a few > percent. Usually top itself is the big user. Grasping at straws here Are you running vnc server as a systemd service that gets started at boot time? I've never had a problem with thatbut if you're doing that how about disabling it for a test. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: webcam
On 02/11/18 04:15, Patrick Dupre wrote: > lsusb > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1770:ff00 > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card > Reader Controller > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub I don't see that the camera is being detected. On my laptop with a working camera [egreshko@acer ~]$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0a5c:2101 Broadcom Corp. BCM2045 Bluetooth Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub I doubt that it would be on the pci bus, but you could check with lspci. Make/model of the laptop? Could there be a switch to turn the camera on/off? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27
On 02/11/18 04:56, Dave Close wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Grasping at straws here >> >> Are you running vnc server as a systemd service that gets started >> at boot time? I've never had a problem with thatbut if you're >> doing that how about disabling it for a test. > No, I started it from the command line. Recall that I had the same > problem before I started using VNC. In fact, VNC is just a workaround > so I can get practical work done using this machine. > > I have mixed feelings about your frustration. I'm certainly frustrated > myself. But it feels slightly good that someone else is also baffled > by the situation. I only wish there were someone who wasn't baffled > and could tell me what is wrong. Thanks for all the help. Well, you have plasmashell running so it is a mystery as to what may be going on. Just after login on a system I see... [egreshko@acer ~]$ ps -eaf | grep plasma egreshko 1561 1485 9 06:44 ? 00:00:07 /usr/bin/plasmashell egreshko 1816 1468 0 06:44 ? 00:00:00 desktop.so [kdeinit5] desktop local:/run/user/1029/klauncherTJ1469.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/1029/plasmashellTJ1561.1.slave-socket egreshko 1873 1468 0 06:44 ? 00:00:00 file.so [kdeinit5] file local:/run/user/1029/klauncherTJ1469.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/1029/plasmashellXM1561.2.slave-socket egreshko 1874 1468 0 06:44 ? 00:00:00 trash.so [kdeinit5] trash local:/run/user/1029/klauncherTJ1469.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/1029/plasmashellLh1561.3.slave-socket egreshko 1876 1468 0 06:44 ? 00:00:00 file.so [kdeinit5] file local:/run/user/1029/klauncherTJ1469.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/1029/plasmashellnS1561.4.slave-socket egreshko 1877 1468 0 06:44 ? 00:00:00 trash.so [kdeinit5] trash local:/run/user/1029/klauncherTJ1469.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/1029/plasmashellkn1561.5.slave-socket I don't know of a way to restart plasmashell remotely So, I suppose I try strace attached to the plasmashell PID and see if anything pops out. And I'd probably post the current status and findings to the KDE list to see if someone there has an idea. And, of course, you may want to consider a bugzilla. Oh, one thing has just come to mind This is a system which has been upgraded from F26 to F27, right? So, it still has an F26 kernel on it. So, does KDE work if you boot the F26 kernel? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: webcam
On 02/11/18 10:01, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> On 02/10/2018 05:30 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >>> OK, >>> >>> It works from liveUSB >>> >>> So, what should I do? >> Well, at least we know it's not a hardware issue. >> ___ > My understanding is that I did not install the driver for the camera > during the installation. > How can I do it now? > > What is the output of "lsusb" and "lsmod" when you've booted to the LiveCD? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: webcam
On 02/11/18 18:31, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >> What is the output of "lsusb" and "lsmod" when you've booted to the LiveCD? >> > lsmod > difference between on and off > < uvcvideo 90112 1 > --- >> uvcvideo 90112 0 > 71c71 > < videodev 172032 4 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2 > --- >> videodev 172032 3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2 > 79c79 > < i915 1490944 21 > --- >> i915 1490944 17 > 101c101 > < drm 348160 21 nouveau,i915,ttm,drm_kms_helper > --- >> drm 348160 20 nouveau,i915,ttm,drm_kms_helper > > > > Bus 001 Device 006: ID 5986:0683 Acer, Inc > Device Descriptor: > bLength18 > bDescriptorType 1 > bcdUSB 2.00 > bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device > bDeviceSubClass 2 > bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association > bMaxPacketSize064 > idVendor 0x5986 Acer, Inc > idProduct 0x0683 > bcdDevice3.04 > iManufacturer 3 Bison > iProduct1 BisonCam, NB Pro Well, there is your webcam. It didn't show up in the previous message where you did lsusb. After you boot normally do you find 5986 in the output of dmesg? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: webcam
On 02/11/18 20:31, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> On 02/11/18 18:31, Patrick Dupre wrote: What is the output of "lsusb" and "lsmod" when you've booted to the LiveCD? >>> lsmod >>> difference between on and off >>> < uvcvideo 90112 1 >>> --- uvcvideo 90112 0 >>> 71c71 >>> < videodev 172032 4 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2 >>> --- videodev 172032 3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2 >>> 79c79 >>> < i915 1490944 21 >>> --- i915 1490944 17 >>> 101c101 >>> < drm 348160 21 nouveau,i915,ttm,drm_kms_helper >>> --- drm 348160 20 nouveau,i915,ttm,drm_kms_helper >>> >>> >>> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 5986:0683 Acer, Inc >>> Device Descriptor: >>> bLength18 >>> bDescriptorType 1 >>> bcdUSB 2.00 >>> bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device >>> bDeviceSubClass 2 >>> bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association >>> bMaxPacketSize064 >>> idVendor 0x5986 Acer, Inc >>> idProduct 0x0683 >>> bcdDevice3.04 >>> iManufacturer 3 Bison >>> iProduct1 BisonCam, NB Pro >> >> Well, there is your webcam. >> >> It didn't show up in the previous message where you did lsusb. >> >> After you boot normally do you find 5986 in the output of dmesg? >> >> > It is there too. > I guess that I did not run under root > Then, what is next? > > > > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 5986:0683 Acer, Inc So, you are saying that the device is now present when you boot normally? If so, then does lsmod | grep video show the modules are loaded? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user [more info]
On 02/13/18 01:10, François Patte wrote: >> light(dm) dm=Display Manager >> >> You could try sddm, kdm, or gdm? > I don't want to do that: I dislike gnome or kde and do not want to > introduce a lot of dependancies For future reference This is what one gets from adding sddm to a pure GNOME system. [egreshko@f27gq ~]$ sudo dnf install sddm [sudo] password for egreshko: Last metadata expiration check: 1:18:21 ago on Tue 13 Feb 2018 03:31:03 AM CST. Dependencies resolved. === Package Arch Version Repository Size === Installing: sddm x86_64 0.15.0-1.fc27 fedora 611 k Installing dependencies: desktop-backgrounds-compat noarch 27.0.0-1.fc27 fedora 18 k Transaction Summary === Install 2 Packages Total download size: 629 k Installed size: 1.5 M Is this ok [y/N]: N Operation aborted. So, not a whole lot of dependencies. Plus, dnf has the "erase" function. Therefore, in the case of troubleshooting you can erase what you've installed to remove unneeded/unwanted packages. > > I solved the problem but I am still wondering why this issue hapenned: Good. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex
On 02/13/18 04:21, Terry Barnaby wrote: > I have just noticed that most of my systems now have their Ethernet interfaces > running at 100 MBits/s half duplex rather than the expected 1GBits/s. > > I think some update has caused this to happen, probably about 5 days ago > (noticed > something was slow). These are KDE/Plasma GUI systems but I'm not sure if > this is > due to a change in KDE/Plasma, NetworkManager or something else. > > The KDE/Plasma NeworkManager settings GUI interface now has an "Allow > auto-negotiation" checkbox which I don't think was there before and there is > now > the entry ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg on" in the > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* > file if you set it. It appears that the default setting is 100MBits/s half > duplex > rather than auto negotiate... All of my bare metal systems are KDE only. All of them are fully update. All of them are running at Speed: 1000Mb/s Duplex: Full The "Allow auto-negotiation" box has been there for as long as I can recall. As a matter of fact, there was (maybe still is) a bug that prevents saving configuration changes if that box is not checked. What are the systems connected to? You may want to reset it? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex
On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote: > I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home > electrical > wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this thread > I've > checked my ethernet configuration and like Terry is saying my settings have > auto > negotiate unchecked and the link speed is set at 100 Mb/s and Half Duplex. I > have > not explicitly set that configuration but what I don't know, because I haven't > really taken any notice of it as I only use this connection as a backup to > wireless, is whether or not those settings have always been there. I have > done any > changes to the configuration since I set it up in F26. One can always use ethtool to determine what is available and what the current settings are... This is the view from the Fedora side This is what the Fedora side it telling the outside world what the HW supports Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full This is what the device that the Fedora system is connected to is saying what it supports. Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full FWIW, I have never seen an advertised link speed of 500 Mb/s. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex
On 02/13/18 05:46, Stephen Morris wrote: > Just further to this, on my system when the auto negotiate box is checked the > link > entry and the duplex entry are removed from the dialog. Which makes perfect sense, right? If the negotiation is automatic then displaying the manual choices would be confusing don't you think? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/13/18 07:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no > longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream > of errors to the console (see below). I'm currently on: > > $ rpm -qa vlc\* > vlc-extras-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 > vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 I have vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 Both from rpmfusion. No problems to play any video... > > but I'm pretty sure the problem started before the recent release of > VLC 3. This is a typical slice of output: > > $ vlc foo.avi > VLC media player 3.0.0-rc6 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-7-g0c462fc53e) > [559d9bd7d410] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use > 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. > [559d9be4a960] [cli] lua interface: Listening on host "*console". > VLC media player 3.0.0-rc6 Vetinari > Command Line Interface initialized. Type `help' for help. >> [559d9be30ae0] main audio output error: too low audio sample frequency >> (0) > [7eff94c1d0d0] main decoder error: failed to create audio output > [559d9be30ae0] main audio output error: Can't convert non linear input > [7effb80012e0] main audio filter error: cannot add user audio filter > "scaletempo" (skipped) > [559d9be30ae0] main audio output error: Can't convert non linear input > [559d9be30ae0] main audio output error: cannot setup filtering pipeline > [7eff94c1d0d0] main decoder error: failed to create audio output > [7eff84001e30] main video output error: video output creation failed > [7eff94c07150] main decoder error: failed to create video output > ... and so ad infinitum. Maybe bring up the GUI and check your "Audio" and "Video" settings? I have mine set to "Automatic" and I know I had troubles with some settings when I played with them a while back. > > Essentially the same thing happens with every video file I try, even > though the same files *do* play correctly with the default KDE and > Gnome video tools. > > It's possible that some codec is missing, but the errors don't seem to > point to that. In any case these are the ones I have: > > $ rpm -qa gstreamer\* > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamermm-1.4.3-1.fc25.x86_64 > gstreamer-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-vaapi-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-1.12.4-2.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-1.12.4-1.fc27.i686 > gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-libav-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.12.4-1.fc27.i686 > gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.23-5.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 > gstreamer1-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 > > I'd be interested to hear opinions on what's going on. VLC used to work > perfectly for me, certainly on F26 and (I believe) on F27 though I > can't swear to it. Turning SElinux off makes no difference. FWIW gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-9.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.23-5.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.12.4-3.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-23.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-libav-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13-18.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free-1.12.4-2.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-41.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64 -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 08:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/13/18 07:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no >>> longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream >>> of errors to the console (see below). I'm currently on: >>> >>> $ rpm -qa vlc\* >>> vlc-extras-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 >>> vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64 >> I have >> >> vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 >> vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 >> >> Both from rpmfusion. No problems to play any video... > Interesting. My rpms are from fedora-multimedia, and I note that the > names are slightly different (vlc-core and vlc-extras rather than vlc > and vlc-core). Since I have RPMfusion (free and nonfree) enabled I'm > guessing this is correct, as there doesn't seem to be a way to force > dnf to use the RPMfusion one (other than disabling the official repos > of course). I did not have the "extras" installed from rpmfusion. I have now. And now I have. vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 vlc-extras-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64 > Aside from that, if I run vlc with no arguments, it does start and I > can then view a video. So it looks like there's a change of behaviour > compared to the previous version where I could simply type 'vlc movie' > and it would run. If that's intentional, then it's a feature and not a > bug, but the error message(s) leave a *lot* to be desired. Maybe time > for a BZ report. > I can either run using a file name from the command line or select a file after calling vlc without a file name. Another difference is when you run from the command line you get... VLC media player 3.0.0-rc6 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-7-g0c462fc53e) while I get VLC media player 3.0.0-rc5 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09) Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia". Is that an actual fedora sponsored repo or a 3rd party repo like rpmfusion? I ask since I've not heard of that one. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was > an official Fedora one. Understandable. IMO, they should be discouraged from using the "fedora" name for that very reason. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/14/18 05:23, Stephen Morris wrote: > I use Negativo17 because in the past I have found that rpmfusion were very > tardy > with their Nvidia binary files in keeping pace with kernel version changes. I > have > all the negativo17 repositories enabled and all the rpmfusion repositories > enabled, > so far without any apparent conflicts, which may just be luck on my part. You know, if you use akmod-nvidia from rpmfusion you don't have to worry about a binary being available in the repo as the binary will be built locally on your own system when a new kernel is installed. Simple, easy. No muss, no fuss. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex
On 02/14/18 05:35, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 13/2/18 9:42 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/13/18 05:46, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> Just further to this, on my system when the auto negotiate box is checked >>> the link >>> entry and the duplex entry are removed from the dialog. >> >> Which makes perfect sense, right? >> >> If the negotiation is automatic then displaying the manual choices would be >> confusing >> don't you think? > > I was just surprised that it did that as I'm used to environments where, when > doing > the same thing, the manual entries are ghosted rather than removed. I was also > confused by this when in your previous thread you said you thought that you > may > still have to have auto negotiate checked for configuration changes to be > saved. > > Different GUI developers do things in different ways. Not a big deal to me. The BZ about changes not taking was 1492378. Don't know if it is fixed. Feel free to test it. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 07:54, James wrote: > hello, i have thunderbird and when i click on url, it is dead. it wont > connect to > my default browser, firefox. I have done web searching for this and have found > nothing that works. i have to copy the link and paste it in firefox. anyone > have an > idea? What does xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https return -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote: > On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> What does >> >> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and >> >> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https >> >> return > > Firefox.Desktop I wonder if this is case sensitive. Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote: > On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote: >>> On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> What does >>>> >>>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and >>>> >>>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https >>>> >>>> return >>> >>> Firefox.Desktop >> >> I wonder if this is case sensitive. >> >> Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead >> >> >> > That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/ OK How about xdg-settings get default-web-browser -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 10:57, James wrote: > On 02/13/2018 09:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote: >>> On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote: >>>>> On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>>>> What does >>>>>> >>>>>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and >>>>>> >>>>>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https >>>>>> >>>>>> return >>>>> >>>>> Firefox.Desktop >>>> >>>> I wonder if this is case sensitive. >>>> >>>> Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/ >> >> OK >> >> How about >> >> xdg-settings get default-web-browser >> >> >> > firefox.desktop > I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work. I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the default-url-scheme-handler. Setting the default-web-browser will alter those. That being said, I just switched back and forth between google-chrome.desktop and firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser. Do you happen to have a ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 11:12, James wrote: >> I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work. >> >> I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the >> default-url-scheme-handler. >> Setting the default-web-browser will alter those. >> >> That being said, I just switched back and forth between >> google-chrome.desktop and >> firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser. >> >> Do you happen to have a >> >> ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file? >> >> > no, I do not. OK If you run gtk-launch firefox.desktop does firefox start? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 11:27, James wrote: >> OK If you run >> >> gtk-launch firefox.desktop does firefox start? >> > Yes, it does. On the term, it includes this: > > ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel] Error: > (msgtype=0x150084,name=PBrowser::Msg_Destroy) Closed channel: cannot send/recv > > > ###!!! [Child][MessageChannel] Error: > (msgtype=0x150001,name=PBrowser::Msg_AsyncMessage) Closed channel: cannot > send/recv Hummm When I do the gtk-launch it simply launches FF and exits. I've never seen that error message before. Does... xdg-open http://fedoraproject.org produce a similar error? And does it open the URL? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org
>
> no error(s) and it opens the url
>
OK
Could you bring up T-bird. Then find out the PID of
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.
Then in a terminal session do
strace -p -o somefile
And then click on a link.
Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it. Then examine what is in the
"somefile" to
see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.
Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what
launch
from your .config/mimeapps.list. Can you post yours?
The relevant portion from my strace shows
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
read(79, "", 4096) = 0
close(79) = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0
--
A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out
signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 12:29, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 11:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:
>>> On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>> no error(s) and it opens the url
>>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>> Could you bring up T-bird. Then find out the PID of
>> /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.
>>
>> Then in a terminal session do
>>
>> strace -p -o somefile
>>
>> And then click on a link.
>>
>> Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it. Then examine what is in the
>> "somefile" to
>> see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.
>>
>> Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what
>> launch
>> from your .config/mimeapps.list. Can you post yours?
>>
>> The relevant portion from my strace shows
>>
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1
>> ENOENT
>> (No such file or directory)
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
>> fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
>> read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
>> read(79, "", 4096) = 0
>> close(79) = 0
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY)
>> = 79
>> fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0
>>
>
> https://pastebin.com/ZyG6GnBJ
>
>
Well, that's odd. Your strace file shows no occurrence of "mimeapps" or
"firefox".
That would seem to suggest there is some sort of T-Bird setting getting in the
way.
Or, potentially, an extension.but I don't see any indication of an extension
being called.
I just noticed that in my running T-Bird which I had already opened links from
it
doesn't re-read the ~/.config/mimeapps.list file. (My previous test was in a VM
where T-bird was just started and no link had been clicked on)
So, could you post yours?
--
A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out
signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 13:00, James wrote: > the one i posted was already open, a new one is about 2600 lines. Sorry, I wasn't clear The file I'm asking you to post is .config/mimeapps.list Mine is... [egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat .config/mimeapps.list [Added Associations] application/pdf=okularApplication_pdf.desktop;evince.desktop;AdobeReader.desktop;libreoffice-draw.desktop;gimp.desktop;livna-xv.desktop;xpdf.desktop; message/rfc822=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;evolution.desktop;kmail_view.desktop;org.kde.kwrite.desktop;org.kde.kate.desktop;org.gnome.gedit.desktop;libreoffice-writer.desktop;okularApplication_txt.desktop;emacs.desktop;nedit.desktop; [Default Applications] application/pdf=okularApplication_pdf.desktop; message/rfc822=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop; text/html=google-chrome.desktop; x-scheme-handler/http=google-chrome.desktop; x-scheme-handler/https=google-chrome.desktop; x-scheme-handler/magnet=ktorrent.desktop; x-scheme-handler/mailto=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop; -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote: > $ cat .config/mimeapps.list > [Added Associations] You have x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop; x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop; x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop in that file. try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: thunderbird not linking urls
On 02/14/18 13:56, James wrote: > On 02/14/2018 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote: >>> $ cat .config/mimeapps.list >>> [Added Associations] >> >> >> You have >> >> x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop; >> >> x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop; >> >> x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop >> x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop >> >> in that file. >> >> try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again. >> > still no go... i dont get this at all. what else is there? > Yeah, I just tried using your file on my VM and it works fine for me. Well, at this point one thing I would do is create a new user on the system and use it to start T-Bird and define a email account and test in a "clean" environment. Oh, and one more thing before you do that Exit T-Bird Start T-Bird And then do the strace followed by clicking on the link. Need to see if it ever reads the mimeapps file. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: "canonical" link to info about a fedora package?
On 02/14/18 17:40, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> i want to put together a wiki page for my students with links to >> all of the interesting git-related packages they might want to >> peruse after an upcoming course, and i'm looking for what would be >> the authoritative web page documenting each RPM package. >> >> for example, if they wanted to read about "git-extras", a quick >> google search found the site "fedora.pkgs.org", and this page: >> >> https://fedora.pkgs.org/27/fedora-x86_64/git-extras-4.4.0-2.fc27.noarch.rpm.html >> >> which is pretty much what i'm after, but i'm assuming the domain >> "pkgs.org" is not associated with red hat so i'd rather not use >> that. >> >> a few more seconds and i found the equivalent koji page: >> >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=925511 >> >> again, looks good and clearly affiliated with red hat. but as i >> understand it (and i could be wrong), that page is specifically for >> version git-extras-4.4.0-2.fc27 so if that package is updated, the >> link will still point to the older version. >> >> is there a generic link i can use for a given fedora package that >> will keep up with new versions and just allows students to zip over >> there, read up on the package, and decide whether they want to >> install it to play with it further? thanks muchly. > whoops, never mind, i backed up a link and found this: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=16360 > > so i guess that's as good as it's going to get unless someone has a > better suggestion. Why not just https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packages ? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/15/18 04:24, Kevin Cummings wrote: > On 02/13/18 16:59, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/14/18 05:23, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> I use Negativo17 because in the past I have found that rpmfusion were very >>> tardy >>> with their Nvidia binary files in keeping pace with kernel version changes. >>> I have >>> all the negativo17 repositories enabled and all the rpmfusion repositories >>> enabled, >>> so far without any apparent conflicts, which may just be luck on my part. >> >> You know, if you use akmod-nvidia from rpmfusion you don't have to worry >> about a >> binary being available in the repo as the binary will be built locally on >> your own >> system when a new kernel is installed. > Right up until a kernel interface changes and you have to wait for a new > nvidia driver to use the new kernel > Been using rpmfusion for many years now. That has *never* happened to me. So, if you're talking about a rare occurrence to say why you shouldn't use "something" then one best stop using Fedora, Ubuntu, Suse, any flavor of Linux, all brands of mobile phones, etc. They all have had hiccups causing minor inconvenience to a segment of their users. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problems with vlc
On 02/15/18 10:06, Tim wrote: > On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it >>> was an official Fedora one. > Ed Greshko: >> Understandable. IMO, they should be discouraged from using the >> "fedora" name for that very reason. > I have mixed feelings about that. I see the confusion it causes, but > when dealing with other repos, you want to be able to see that you've > got the right one. > > If /other/ repo sites named their "for Fedora" repos actually including > the words "for-fedora," it would alleviate both issues. > IMO, I feel the problem with using the Fedora name in a repo or site makes people think it is formally affiliated with and endorsed by The Fedora Project. Companies such as Disney, Apple, Samsung, and others go to great lengths to protect their brand. Why should Fedora be any different? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: does "isovfy" actually *do* anything?
On 02/16/18 21:02, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > just downloaded some sizable centos 7 iso images, and thought i > would validate them to whatever extent "isovfy" can do that, but > here's what happened in the blink of an eye: > > $ isovfy CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-1708.iso > Root at extent 1d, 2048 bytes > [0 0] > No errors found > $ > > that iso image is well over 8G in size, but i got that response back > in about the time it took to hit the ENTER key. there is no way that > command could have examined that entire image, so what exactly is > isovfy supposed to be doing? does it just look at the header? does it > do *anything*? > From the man page isovfy is a utility to verify the integrity of an iso9660 image. Most of the tests in isovfy were added after bugs were discovered in early ver‐ sions of genisoimage. It isn't all that clear how useful this is any‐ more, but it doesn't hurt to have this around. Besides, doesn't CentOS provide checksums for their ISOs? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: > I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel > (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: > > kernel: Spectre V2 : Mitigation: Full generic retpoline > kernel: Spectre V2 : System may be vulnerable to spectre v2 > > What do they mean and what to do? Waiting for next kernel update? It may mean that your particular CPU is not fully protected by the recent kernel patches. Cat the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities FWIW, my systems have [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat meltdown Mitigation: PTI [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat spectre_v1 Mitigation: __user pointer sanitization [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat spectre_v2 Mitigation: Full generic retpoline -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/17/18 20:25, François Patte wrote: >> [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat spectre_v2 >> Mitigation: Full generic retpoline > this one gives: > > Mitigation: Full generic retpoline - vulnerable module loaded > > But does not give the module name!! Do you have any modules, such as a Wifi driver, that you've built yourself? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: > returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, > vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler > > As these modules are compiled on board with gcc using akmod, I suppose > that gcc is not a retpoline compiler. > > What can I do? Where do you get your Vbox and nVidia drivers from? I use rpmfusion (akmods) and vbox from Oracle. In these cases the modules are being build locally and both cases the -DRETPOLINE flag is set in the compile. Here is the gcc line in my /var/log/vbox-install.log file. gcc -Wp,-MD,/tmp/vbox.0/.vboxpci.mod.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/7/include -I./arch/x86/include -I./arch/x86/include/generated -I./include -I./arch/x86/include/uapi -I./arch/x86/include/generated/uapi -I./include/uapi -I./include/generated/uapi -include ./include/linux/kconfig.h -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fshort-wchar -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security -std=gnu89 -fno-PIE -mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -mno-avx -m64 -falign-jumps=1 -falign-loops=1 -mno-80387 -mno-fp-ret-in-387 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3 -mskip-rax-setup -mtune=generic -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SSSE3=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CRC32=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX2=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX512=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SHA1_NI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SHA256_NI=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mindirect-branch=thunk-extern -mindirect-branch-register -DRETPOLINE -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -Wno-frame-address -Wno-format-truncation -Wno-format-overflow -Wno-int-in-bool-context -O2 --param=allow-store-data-races=0 -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO -Wframe-larger-than=2048 -fstack-protector-strong -Wno-unused-but-set-variable -Wno-unused-const-variable -fvar-tracking-assignments -g -pg -mfentry -DCC_USING_FENTRY -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow -fno-stack-check -fconserve-stack -Werror=implicit-int -Werror=strict-prototypes -Werror=date-time -Werror=incompatible-pointer-types -Werror=designated-init -include /tmp/vbox.0/include/VBox/SUPDrvMangling.h -fno-pie -I/lib/modules/4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64/build/include -I/tmp/vbox.0/ -I/tmp/vbox.0/include -I/tmp/vbox.0/r0drv/linux -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DRT_OS_LINUX -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_SUP_R0 -DVBOX -DRT_WITH_VBOX -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DRT_ARCH_AMD64 -DKBUILD_BASENAME='"vboxpci.mod"' -DKBUILD_MODNAME='"vboxpci"' -DMODULE -c -o /tmp/vbox.0/vboxpci.mod.o /tmp/vbox.0/vboxpci.mod.c -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 05:12, François Patte wrote: > Le 17/02/2018 à 20:31, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: >>> returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, >>> vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler >>> >>> As these modules are compiled on board with gcc using akmod, I suppose >>> that gcc is not a retpoline compiler. >>> >>> What can I do? >> >> Where do you get your Vbox and nVidia drivers from? > rpmfusion, as akmods > > but > > grep DRETPOLINE /var/log/vbox-install.log What is the gcc line in that file? > > and > > grep DRETPOLINE > /var/cache/akmods/nvidia-340xx/340.106-1-for-4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64.log > > return nothing... And what do you get for strings /usr/lib/modules/4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko | grep gcc > -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/17/18 23:48, François Patte wrote: >> Do you have any modules, such as a Wifi driver, that you've built yourself? > No! Well, vbox and nVidia do qualify. :-) See my other response. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 06:32, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Thanks for sending me on a fun hunt Ed. I sure am glad you did it. I was too lazy. Figured it works for vbox it "must" be the same for nVidia. :-) :-) -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 06:41, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/17/2018 02:32 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> If that's accepted, I or someone else can work on adding the >> same V=1 to the make command for the other nvidia-*-kmod >> packages. > > The question is, how many people would want to see the extra output or know > what to > do with it? I know people who'd have to be talked through the process of > reporting > a bug, and having to save that output for the report might be what makes them > decide that it's too much bother. Yes, having that parameter can be a good > thing, > but I don't know if it's useful enough in general to be added. It is going to be in a log file. So, you look or don't look. Up to you. Go to /var/log and see how many other logs are generated that you never look at and contain stuff most people won't understand. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 17:01, François Patte wrote: > $ strings > /usr/lib/modules/4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64/extra/nvidia-340xx/nvidia.ko | > grep gcc > > gcc version 7.2.1 20170915 (Red Hat 7.2.1-2) (GCC) OK. I believe that RETPOLINE support isn't available in that version of gcc. gcc-7.3.1-2.fc27 is the current version I think if you upgrade to the most recent version your problem will be fixed when the modules are rebuilt -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 18:14, François Patte wrote: > fc27 is the last "stable" version of fedora, and gcc-7.3 seems to have a > patch for retpoline, why the patched version is not available in fedora > repos? What do you mean it isn't available in the repo? That is where mine came from. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf list gcc Last metadata expiration check: 3 days, 20:12:19 ago on Wed 14 Feb 2018 10:07:18 PM CST. Installed Packages gcc.x86_64 7.3.1-2.fc27 @updates -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: weird effect: gnome-terminal does not open links correctly
On 02/18/18 18:04, Joachim Backes wrote: > I'm running f27 under gnome with gnome-terminal as preferred terminal > application. > > Anybody has seen that opening URL's found within the gnome-terminal output is > not > done correctly (popup menu: Open link ... in gnome-terminal)? Only the > issuer's > home URL is opened, independent from the URL found in the terminal. I don't normally use Gnome. But I have it running in a VM. I can right-click on a URL and pick "Open Link" and it brings up the link correctly in FF. Is that the method I should be trying? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 21:03, François Patte wrote: > Le 18/02/2018 à 11:20, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/18/18 18:14, François Patte wrote: >>> fc27 is the last "stable" version of fedora, and gcc-7.3 seems to have a >>> patch for retpoline, why the patched version is not available in fedora >>> repos? >> >> What do you mean it isn't available in the repo? That is where mine came >> from. >> >> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf list gcc >> Last metadata expiration check: 3 days, 20:12:19 ago on Wed 14 Feb 2018 >> 10:07:18 PM CST. >> Installed Packages >> gcc.x86_64 7.3.1-2.fc27 >> @updates > Strangely, gcc was not proposed for update yesterday, it is today, so I > updated it but I am unable to reinstall virtualbox or nvidia drivers FWIW, the gcc update on my system happened on 2/7 For nvidia you can run /sbin/akmodsbuild --target x86_64 --kernels `uname -r` /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod.latest Which will create a kmod-nvidia-4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64-390.25-3.fc27.x86_64.rpm and you can either use "dnf reinstall" or use rpm to install with the --force. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 21:03, François Patte wrote: > but I am unable to reinstall virtualbox For the virtualbox drivers just run... sudo /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup This will rebuild the modules for the running kernel only. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/18/18 21:55, François Patte wrote: > Le 18/02/2018 à 14:36, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/18/18 21:03, François Patte wrote: >>> but I am unable to reinstall virtualbox >> >> For the virtualbox drivers just run... >> >> sudo /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup > This file (vboxdrv.sh) does not exist on my system... Are we running the > same f27? It could be different if you are getting Virtual Box from rpmfusion as opposed to getting it directly from Oracle as I am. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update
On 02/19/18 04:59, Stephen Morris wrote: >> >> strings /usr/lib/modules/4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko | >> grep gcc > > I get my nvidia source from the negativo17 repository and all this command > does is > list the version of gcc used And that was the entire purpose of asking that question. To determine the version of the compiler used. This then verified that the OP's compiler was out of date and lacking retpoline support. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/19/18 07:49, Patrick Dupre wrote: Is your poorly performing monitor is connected to HDMI? > xrandr > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3520 x 1200, maximum 8192 x 8192 > HDMI-1 connected 1920x1080+1600+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > 609mm x 347mm >1366x768 59.79 + >1920x1080 60.0050.0059.94* 30.0025.0024.0029.97 > 23.98 I ask since I see an oddity in the above. What is the model of the monitor connected? From the xrandr man page If invoked without any option, it will dump the state of the outputs, showing the existing modes for each of them, with a '+' after the pre‐ ferred modes and a '*' after the current mode. So, the monitor seems to be reporting that its native resolution is 1366x768 but not currently connected at it. > >1920x1080i60.0050.0059.94 >1280x720 60.0050.0059.94 >1024x768 75.0370.0760.00 >832x624 74.55 >800x600 72.1975.0060.32 >720x576 50.00 >720x576i 50.00 >720x480 60.0059.94 >720x480i 60.0059.94 >640x480 75.0072.8166.6760.0059.94 >720x400 70.08 > DP-1 connected primary 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y > axis) 408mm x 306mm >1600x1200 60.00*+ >1280x1024 75.0260.02 >1280x960 60.00 >1152x864 75.00 >1024x768 75.0370.0760.00 >832x624 74.55 >800x600 72.1975.0060.3256.25 >640x480 75.0072.8166.6759.94 >720x400 70.08 -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/19/18 08:21, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> Is your poorly performing monitor is connected to HDMI? > Yes >>> xrandr >>> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3520 x 1200, maximum 8192 x 8192 >>> HDMI-1 connected 1920x1080+1600+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y >>> axis) 609mm x 347mm >>>1366x768 59.79 + >>>1920x1080 60.0050.0059.94* 30.0025.0024.00 >>> 29.9723.98 >> I ask since I see an oddity in the above. What is the model of the monitor >> connected? > HDMI-1 connected 1920x1080+1600+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > 609mm x 347mm >1366x768 59.79 + >1920x1080 60.00* 50.0059.9430.0025.0024.0029.97 > 23.98 > > Hence, it is running in 1920x1080 > > It is a T24E310EW Samsung > Well, the specs for that monitor are at https://uk.hardware.info/product/321689/samsung-t24e310ew/specifications and other places. They list the resolution at 1366x768 and you have it set to 1920x1080. Using an LCD monitor at anything other than its native resolution is sure to give substandard results. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/19/18 17:05, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> I suspect that the high-res computer screen copies somehow its >> own resolution to the lower res TV. That's why I asked in another >> message for the xrandr output for all three monitors, including the one >> for the built-in computer monitor. I didn't write that. Wolfgang did. > What do you mean by 3 monitors, including the one for the built-in computer > monitor? > I have only 2 monitors. > > In any event, your Samsung monitor is set to run at 1920x1080 while its native resolution is 1366x768. Use xrandr to set it to 1366x768 and verify that it is set to that. Again, running a LED or LCD monitor at a resolution other than their "native" resolution results in a less than ideal user experience when it comes to text. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Fedora Linux protected against the Meltdown and Spectre security flaws?
On 02/19/18 20:14, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > What are the patches that I can download and install to be protected > against the Meltdown and Spectre security vulnerabilities? (Resend to List, oops) Yes. As long as you don't have kernel modules which were built with a non-patched gcc. ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Fedora Linux protected against the Meltdown and Spectre security flaws?
On 02/19/18 21:51, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > What do these mean, and what is the needed mitigation, if any? Basically, it means that everything that can currently be done to lessen the chances of a security breach is being done. Otherwise you may see something like... Mitigation: Full generic retpoline - vulnerable module loaded -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel
On 02/20/18 04:41, Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm using the nvidia drivers from negativo17. I have the nvidia source > module > registered with dkms and it seems to be being compiled when I get a new > kernel, if > that is the case what do I need to do to resolve the following messages shown > by > "dmesg"? > > > [ 14.934074] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. > [ 14.934086] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. > [ 14.934087] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint > [ 14.943865] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required > key > missing - tainting kernel When you load a proprietary module into the kernel it becomes tainted. There is no way to "fix" it. It is like replacing the battery in your iPhone with a battery you bought on the street corner. You have voided the warranty. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/20/18 04:14, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Now I am running 1368x768 > I do not think that it is what I wanted. As I've said before, that is the resolution your monitor is designed to provide the best performance. I would not concentrate on picking the best looking fonts. I have a Samsung TV that I could hook up to HDMI. If I can only find the mini-HDMI cable that would connect to my laptop. I have never used a TV as a monitor so I don't know how well suited they are for this purpose. I have 2 ASUS monitors that operate at 2560x1440 and the fonts are crisp and clear. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/20/18 09:25, Ed Greshko wrote: > would not concentrate would NOW concentrate -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/20/18 09:25, Ed Greshko wrote: > If I can only find the mini-HDMI cable that would connect > to my laptop. I have never used a TV as a monitor so I don't know how well > suited > they are for this purpose. I found my HDMI cable. The TV is a 48 inch model. It just so happens that its preferred resolution is the same as my 11 inch laptop screen at 1920x1080. The fonts on my laptop are very crisp and clear. On the TV, not so much when viewed close up. Better when viewed from a distance but still not as good as a monitor. However, I think I may have found your problem. Looking at the specs for your TV/monitor we find that the screen size is 23.5" with a pixel density of 66ppi at the native resolution. In searching for articles on using TV as monitor they recommend a display with no less than 80dpi. I could not find the specs on my TV's display. It is about 3 years old. Now compare that with my Asus monitors. They are 25" displays with a pixel density of 117ppi at their native resolution of 2560x1440 (I think PPD, pixel per degree, may be a better measure but that seems harder t come by or calculate) Everything is sharp and clear on my Asus monitors. I think you have HW which is never going to be satisfactory as a monitor. Probably others with better understanding of display technology have their opinion. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Fedora Linux protected against the Meltdown and Spectre security flaws?
On 02/20/18 15:51, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > In earlier email in this thread, you stated: > > Yes. As long as you don't have kernel modules which were built with a > non-patched gcc. > > ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* > > This file is new to me ... do you happen to know about when it was introduced > and > if there is any documentation on it (I couldn't find anything but I feel I was > grasping in the dark as I must be missing something). Looking at the changelog for the kernel, my guess is that they were introduced around Jan 10 of this year. Maybe with the 4.14.13 kernel. I don't happen to have an earlier one running. Except for a Live image which is at 4.13.9 and they aren't there. I've not done, but probably should, look at the BZ reports noted in the changelog as well as the CVE reports. For example, the changelog has... * Wed Jan 10 2018 Justin M. Forbes - 4.14.13-300 - Linux v4.14.13 - Iniital retpoline fixes for Spectre v2 > > From what I can tell in this thread, this is a good new addition I would say so. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On 02/20/18 16:26, Tim wrote: > I think the DPI issue is a bit of a red herring, in this instance. If > you take three different 1920 by 1080 sets, each with a different > screensize, they'll each have a different DPI. But they can each show > the display as good as each other, though you'd use the bigger screens > further away from you. So-called high definition (1920 by 1080) isn't > particularly *high* definition, and doesn't stand too much close > scrutiny. Yes. That is sort of what I was getting to with the "Pixel Per Degree" being the better measure. I found a calculator for that and it has as part of the calculation the viewing distance. Anyway, in my short lived experiment (my wife wanted the TV back) I found that while my laptop and TV were both 1920x1080 the fonts on the laptop were crisp and clear no matter how close I put my nose to the screen. Not so the TV. Even when I moved to where we'd normally be watching the TV the fonts looked "strange". -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel
On 02/21/18 04:59, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 20/2/18 8:54 am, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/20/18 04:41, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> I'm using the nvidia drivers from negativo17. I have the nvidia source >>> module >>> registered with dkms and it seems to be being compiled when I get a new >>> kernel, if >>> that is the case what do I need to do to resolve the following messages >>> shown by >>> "dmesg"? >>> >>> >>> [ 14.934074] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. >>> [ 14.934086] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. >>> [ 14.934087] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint >>> [ 14.943865] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or >>> required key >>> missing - tainting kernel >> >> When you load a proprietary module into the kernel it becomes tainted. >> There is no >> way to "fix" it. It is like replacing the battery in your iPhone with a >> battery you >> bought on the street corner. You have voided the warranty. > > I been in the situation of compiling kernel modules in other linux > distributions > where you could put statements in your source to stop these messages, but I > have > forgotten what they were. > > Looking at dmesg again this morning, and searching for the work 'taints' I > get the > 2nd message listed above but not the first message (why?), and this search > displays > a message in the same format as the first message for my wifi driver which is > also > compiled, but I don't see any messages with the word 'taints' in them for the > 6 > compiled kernel modules provided by the vendor of my mouse that I am > compiling via > dkms. Of the 6 modules I am compiling one and possibly two are being actively > loaded and used by the kernel, so why are these not producing the messages? > > Also given that this morning I am seeing the equivalent of the first message > for my > wifi driver, but I am not seeing it for the nvidia driver, which makes it > look like > these messages are random, are they actually random or is the lack of the > message > and indication that the kernel is potentially not working correctly? I'm confused as to what your goal is and what your understanding of what "taints" a kernel. The lack of a message in dmesg or the journal with the word "taint" doesn't guarantee your kernel hasn't been tainted as there are several ways to have the kernel flagged as "tainted". Take this VM that I've just installed. [egreshko@f27k-v ~]$ dmesg | grep -i taint [egreshko@f27k-v ~]$ journalctl -b 0 | grep -i taint [egreshko@f27k-v ~]$ ./tainted Taint value: 1024 [bit] [bit value] [description] 10 1024 A module from drivers/staging was loaded As it happens, the VM is connected to a wireless usb device which loads a drivers/staging module and thus the kernel is considered "tainted" Now, take my desktop which is "seriously" tainted. [egreshko@meimei tainted]$ dmesg | grep -i taint [ 6.508288] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. [ 6.508297] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [ 6.508298] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [ 6.515118] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel [ 11.598031] CPU: 1 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/1 Tainted: P C OE 4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64 #1 [egreshko@meimei tainted]$ journalctl -b 0 | grep -i taint Feb 18 17:59:21 meimei.greshko.com kernel: nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. Feb 18 17:59:21 meimei.greshko.com kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. Feb 18 17:59:21 meimei.greshko.com kernel: Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint Feb 18 17:59:21 meimei.greshko.com kernel: nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel Feb 18 17:59:26 meimei.greshko.com kernel: CPU: 1 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/1 Tainted: P C OE 4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64 #1 [egreshko@meimei tainted]$ ./tainted Taint value: 13313 [bit] [bit value] [description] 0 1 A module with a non-GPL license has been loaded, this includes modules with no license. Set by modutils >= 2.4.9 and module-init-tools 10 1024 A module from drivers/staging was loaded 12 4096 An out-of-tree module has been loaded 13 8192 An unsigned module has been loaded in a kernel supporting module signature So, do you just want to eliminate the messages to make yourself think your kernel isn't tainted? Or something else? -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora
On 02/21/18 07:28, Max Pyziur wrote: > I've been learning R on both Fedora and Ubuntu. > > I've noticed that Ubuntu has considerably greater support for R than Fedora > (more R > deb packages than R rpm packages). > > Is there a rationale for this? I don't use R or Ubuntu. But I wonder if counting the number of packages is actually reflective of the level of support. Is there a one-to-one correspondence between deb and rpm packages and the distributions? I count 140 rpm's (R-*) packages on Fedora. This excludes the devel packages. How many more does Ubuntu have and what functionality do they provide that is missing from Fedora? With that info, I would think one could write a BZ against R requesting the missing pieces. Probably would get a better, more definitive answer that way. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel
On 02/21/18 08:23, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 21 February 2018, Stephen Morris sent: >> I been in the situation of compiling kernel modules in other linux >> distributions where you could put statements in your source to stop >> these messages, but I have forgotten what they were. > A install is tainted by having certain kinds of things installed (in > this case, binary support files that are not open-source). > > It will still be tainted (i.e. not suitable for providing bug reports > to sources that need the computer to be running in a defined state), > even if you try and pretend that it is not (faking the flags). > > To untaint a a kernel (e.g. for the purposes of debugging something), > you have to stop using the modules that cause the tainting (you'd > unload the Nvidia graphics driver and use a generic one, in this case). > If, after doing that, the problem still occurs, you can make a bug > report that can be used by the debugging team. But, if after that, the > fault goes away, it points rather firmly at your binary blob being the > cause of the problem. And since nobody here can debug closed source > software, you're stuck. > BTW, one can determine if their kernel is tainted by doing a "cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted". Anything other than 0 means "tainted". The values are additive from this list(may be out of date). 1 – A module with a non-GPL license has been loaded, this includes modules with no license. Set by modutils >= 2.4.9 and module-init-tools. 2 – A module was force loaded by insmod -f. Set by modutils >= 2.4.9 and module-init-tools. 4 – Unsafe SMP processors: SMP with CPUs not designed for SMP. 8 – A module was forcibly unloaded from the system by rmmod -f. 16 – A hardware machine check error occurred on the system. 32 – A bad page was discovered on the system. 64 – The user has asked that the system be marked “tainted”. This could be because they are running software that directly modifies the hardware, or for other reasons. 128 – The system has died. 256 – The ACPI DSDT has been overridden with one supplied by the user instead of using the one provided by the hardware. 512 – A kernel warning has occurred. 1024 – A module from drivers/staging was loaded. 268435456 – Unsupported hardware 536870912 – Technology Preview code was loaded -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [Off-topic] Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora
On 02/21/18 11:14, Max Pyziur wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 2018, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > [...] >> >> # Non-R packages: >> fonts-KOI8-R.noarch >> fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi.noarch >> fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi.noarch > > Wow! Does someone still use KOI8-R in a universe of UTF8 and Unicode? > > That might be like asking "Does anyone use big5 or GB2312 in the UTF8 and Unicode world?" And the answer would be Yes. The Taiwan Government still uses big5 in some cases. Some sites in Taiwan still use big5. And in the PRC the Government there still uses GB2312. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Speech-dispatcher
On 02/22/18 03:30, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 02/20/2018 02:40 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >> >>> I never use it. It gets in the way and uses computer resources. >> >> Any resources besides disk space? > > Funny that this just came up here. Since yesterday, there are suddenly 4 > speech > dispatcher processes running on my laptop and connected to the sound output > and I > have no idea what triggered them. I've never had a problem with it. I'm running a pure KDE system and speech-dispatcherd.service is disabled. However, you may want to "mask" the service and see if that happens again. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Speech-dispatcher
On 02/22/18 03:01, Beartooth wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:55:32 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > > [] >> I went ahead and implemented it, >> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-df2dba5a2b >> >> With that, speech-dispatcher can now be removed if you wish. > I find nothing in man, info, nor wikipedia. What is it? [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf info speech-dispatcher Last metadata expiration check: 7 days, 5:16:42 ago on Wed 14 Feb 2018 10:07:18 PM CST. Installed Packages Name : speech-dispatcher Version : 0.8.8 Release : 2.fc27 Arch : x86_64 Size : 1.8 M Source : speech-dispatcher-0.8.8-2.fc27.src.rpm Repo : @System From repo : updates Summary : To provide a high-level device independent layer for speech : synthesis URL : http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd <<< Go here for more information License : GPLv2+ and GPLv2 Description : * Common interface to different TTS engines : * Handling concurrent synthesis requests – requests may come : asynchronously from multiple sources within an application : and/or from more different applications. : * Subsequent serialization, resolution of conflicts and : priorities of incoming requests : * Context switching – state is maintained for each client : connection independently, event for connections from : within one application. : * High-level client interfaces for popular programming languages : * Common sound output handling – audio playback is handled by : Speech Dispatcher rather than the TTS engine, since most engines : have limited sound output capabilities. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
